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So, how will people spin that he was musing about ingesting disinfectants? Cant say its fake news.
 
Strenuus said:
So, how will people spin that he was musing about ingesting disinfectants? Cant say its fake news.
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"He meant vodka enemas!"

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Doctors have to scramble to tell people not to drink or inject disinfectant because the ignoramus in chief suggested it.

UV light damages skin but is not energetic enough to penetrate skin. For that you need X rays or gamma rays. Please don't tell Trump or he will suggest dropping a nuclear bomb as a cure for Corona virus. Which I suppose it is but that is really cure worse than the disease.

Mods, a suggestion, since thread now at 80 pages, can we start new monthly ones, kind of like Around the NBA?
 
Orion Bailey said:
yet curiously certain people never get publicly addressed like others do.
I don't think its safe to assume anything. Hasn't this forum taught us that?
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Why must it be addressed "publicly"? You're assuming that mods don't discuss things amongst themselves and others via PM/email.

A "public" shit storm is the very thing they try to avoid...which is precisely why people who sometimes act like jackasses such as you and I et al, are not moderators.
 
"I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? As you see, it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that."

He didn't specify the kind of disinfectant.Medical professionals, including Dr. Vin Gupta, a pulmonologist, global health policy expert and an NBC News and MSNBC contributor. were quick to challenge the president's "improper health messaging."

"This notion of injecting or ingesting any type of cleansing product into the body is irresponsible and it's dangerous," said Gupta. "It's a common method that people utilize when they want to kill themselves."

>The Don lost it.
 
Strenuus said:
So, how will people spin that he was musing about ingesting disinfectants? Cant say its fake news.
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Its never stopped them before. I’m sure they’re going to be putting a spin on it here shortly.
 
Chris Craig said:
Very fucking sad and we would all do well to remember each of those bags was a life. A life just as valuable and as meaningful as yours, mine, or any of us on here. There are a lot more bags than that. More bags everyday because of this virus.

I can't imagine having to die alone like that, asphyxiating to death as the virus ravages you. The fear they must have felt. My God. And there are people on here who would trivialize those deaths.
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"Fear is, somehow or other, the archenemy itself. It crouches in people’s hearts. It hollows out their insides, until their resistance and strength are spent and they suddenly break down. Fear secretly gnaws and eats away at all the ties that bind a person to God and to others, and when in a time of need that person reaches for those ties and clings to them, they break and the individual sinks back into himself or herself, helpless and despairing, while hell rejoices…."

https://politicaltheology.com/overcoming-fear-sermon-dietrich-bonhoeffer/
 
Curious how his supporters feel about latest medical advice their president attempted to hand out yesterday?
Do they agree and have they tried this?
How can you guys stand behind and support someone who said something like this.
Please don’t blow it off, he actually believes people should do that. ........ and HE speaks for you? HE is your leader?
 
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6122858/

Ultraviolet Irradiation of Blood: “The Cure That Time Forgot”?
Michael R. Hamblin

Additional article information

Abstract
Ultraviolet blood irradiation (UBI) was extensively used in the 1940s and 1950s to treat many diseases including septicemia, pneumonia, tuberculosis, arthritis, asthma and even poliomyelitis. The early studies were carried out by several physicians in USA and published in the American Journal of Surgery. However with the development of antibiotics, UBI use declined and it has now been called “the cure that time forgot”. Later studies were mostly performed by Russian workers and in other Eastern countries and the modern view in Western countries is that UBI remains highly controversial.

This chapter discusses the potential of UBI as an alternative approach to current methods used to treat infections, as an immune-modulating therapy and as a method for normalizing blood parameters. No resistance of microorganisms to UV irradiation has been reported, and multi- antibiotic resistant strains are as susceptible as their wild-type counterparts. Low and mild doses of UV kill microorganisms by damaging the DNA, while any DNA damage in host cells can be rapidly repaired by DNA repair enzymes. However the use of UBI to treat septicemia cannot be solely due to UV-mediated killing of bacteria in the blood-stream, as only 5–7% of blood volume needs to be treated with UV to produce the optimum benefit. UBI may enhance the phagocytic capacity of various phagocytic cells (neutrophils and dendritic cells), inhibit lymphocytes, and oxidize blood lipids. The oxidative nature of UBI may have mechanisms in common with ozone therapy and other oxygen therapies. There may be some similarities to extracorporeal photopheresis (ECP) using psoralens and UVA irradiation. However there are differences between UBI and ECP in that UBI tends to stimulate the immune system, while ECP tends to be immunosuppressive. With the recent emergence of bacteria that are resistant to all known antibiotics, UBI should be more investigated as an alternative approach to infections, and as an immune-modulating therapy.

Keywords: Ultraviolet C, Knott hemo-irradiator, UBI, DNA repair, Blood cells, Antigen-presenting cells, Infections, Cytokines
 
THE HCP said:
Curious how his supporters feel about latest medical advice their president attempted to hand out yesterday?
Do they agree and have they tried this?
How can you guys stand behind and support someone who said something like this.
Please don’t blow it off, he actually believes people should do that. ........ and HE speaks for you? HE is your leader?
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Im not a Trump guy at all but I listened to his comments and he was winging it with the doctors that were present. Stupid, but very New Yorker Business like.
If anyone watching him make those comments and went and drank lysol think it was a cure would be just as off as the guy that drank fish tank cleaner.
Its sad knowing people are ignorant enough to self medicate with crazy stuff but people have been doing it for decades.
 
magnifier661 said:
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Could a New Ultraviolet Technology Fught the Spread of Coronavirus?

https://news.columbia.edu/ultraviolet-technology-virus-covid-19-UV-light
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THE HCP said:
Curious how his supporters feel about latest medical advice their president attempted to hand out yesterday?
Do they agree and have they tried this?
How can you guys stand behind and support someone who said something like this.
Please don’t blow it off, he actually believes people should do that. ........ and HE speaks for you? HE is your leader?
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Read above. Not sure there is an issue with his questions about treatment he had regarding disinfectants?
 
Hoopguru said:
Im not a Trump guy at all but I listened to his comments and he was winging it with the doctors that were present. Stupid, but very New Yorker Business like.
If anyone watching him make those comments and went and drank lysol think it was a cure would be just as off as the guy that drank fish tank cleaner.
Its sad knowing people are ignorant enough to self medicate with crazy stuff but people have been doing it for decades.
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No, what's sad is that we have a clueless leader touting stuff that's extremely dangerous. He needs to STFU.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Read above. Not sure there is an issue with his questions about treatment he had regarding disinfectants?
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After learning about Chemotherapy is actually the therapy of injecting “disinfectants” into the blood stream and UV rays are a form of disinfectant that scientists and medical researchers are studying, I guess it wasn’t as outlandish as first thought. That’s why I try and wait for the facts to come in first.
 
https://apnews.com/b44f4531071e6204023f7b8e16f59d4b

Aytu BioScience Signs Exclusive Global License with Cedars-Sinai for Potential Coronavirus Treatment
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Cedars-Sinai-Developed ‘Healight’ Medical Device Platform Technology Being Studied as a Potential First-in-Class COVID-19 Treatment

Conference Call Scheduled for Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 4:30 pm ET

ENGLEWOOD, CO / ACCESSWIRE / April 20, 2020 / Aytu BioScience, Inc. (NASDAQ:AYTU) (the “Company”), a specialty pharmaceutical company focused on commercializing novel products that address significant patient needs announced today that it has signed an exclusive worldwide license from Cedars-Sinai to develop and commercialize the Healight Platform Technology (“Healight”). This medical device technology platform, discovered and developed by scientists at Cedars-Sinai, is being studied as a potential first-in-class treatment for coronavirus and other respiratory infections.

The company will host a live conference call and webcast Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 4:30 p.m. ET. Conference call details are provided at the end of this press release.

Led by Mark Pimentel, MD, the research team of the Medically Associated Science and Technology (MAST) Program at Cedars-Sinai has been developing the patent-pending Healight platform since 2016 and has produced a growing body of scientific evidence demonstrating pre-clinical safety and effectiveness of the technology as an antiviral and antibacterial treatment. The Healight technology employs proprietary methods of administering intermittent ultraviolet (UV) A light via a novel endotracheal medical device. Pre-clinical findings indicate the technology’s significant impact on eradicating a wide range of viruses and bacteria, inclusive of coronavirus. The data have been the basis of discussions with the FDA for a near-term path to enable human use for the potential treatment of coronavirus in intubated patients in the intensive care unit (ICU). Beyond the initial pursuit of a coronavirus ICU indication, additional data suggest broader clinical applications for the technology across a range of viral and bacterial pathogens. This includes bacteria implicated in ventilator associated pneumonia (VAP).

“Our team has shown that administering a specific spectrum of UV-A light can eradicate viruses in infected human cells (including coronavirus) and bacteria in the area while preserving healthy cells,” stated Dr. Pimentel of Cedars-Sinai. Ali Rezaie, MD, one of the inventors of this technology states, “Our lab at Cedars-Sinai has extensively studied the effects of this unique technology on bacteria and viruses. Based on our findings we believe this therapeutic approach has the potential to significantly impact the high morbidity and mortality of coronavirus-infected patients and patients infected with other respiratory pathogens. We are looking forward to partnering with Aytu BioScience to move this technology forward for the benefit of patients all over the world.”
 
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