OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

[Hoopguru]

https://factcheck.afp.com/misleading-coronavirus-information-falsely-attributed-johns-hopkins

Thanks, it was handed to me from the manager of the fish camp we were at the last few days.
Appreciate you bringing it to my attention. Hell, I don't know who to believe anymore Ive heard docs on TV say contradictory things about the virus.
Delete the post please. Thanks Dog

 

[magnifier661]

Thanks, it was handed to me from the manager of the fish camp we were at the last few days.
Appreciate you bringing it to my attention. Hell, I don't know who to believe anymore Ive heard docs on TV say contradictory things about the virus.
Delete the post please. Thanks Dog

It is a crazy world right now.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Definitely part of that sheet should be debunked. I don’t think any virus has DNA.

UV rays do kill the virus though. Same with disinfectants.

Duuuuude........you are so wrong. I have extensive experience with UV “disinfection”. A virus DOES have DNA.....and UV does NOT kill the virus. It disrupts and changes its’ DNA so it can’t reproduce. You’re welcome......

 

[magnifier661]

Duuuuude........you are so wrong. I have extensive experience with UV “disinfection”. A virus DOES have DNA.....and UV does NOT kill the virus. It disrupts and changes its’ DNA so it can’t reproduce. You’re welcome......

Thank you!

 

[magnifier661]

Serves me right for believing the New Yorker....

https://nymag.com/strategist/article/does-uv-light-kill-germs-best-sterilizer.html

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Thanks, it was handed to me from the manager of the fish camp we were at the last few days.
Appreciate you bringing it to my attention. Hell, I don't know who to believe anymore Ive heard docs on TV say contradictory things about the virus.
Delete the post please. Thanks Dog

This is a big part of why I don't really get into what my "opinion" is, I just try to ask questions and of course I have bias' with those questions, but more and more I feel like the "information and data" on Covid19 / Coronavirus is murky I have no idea really who to believe and since so many "experts" are all saying different things I'm just kind of left to my own bias' to choose what to believe, which means I'm well aware I can't even trust my own opinions. So my opinion is pretty meaningless anyways, but even more so than normal.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Serves me right for believing the New Yorker....

https://nymag.com/strategist/article/does-uv-light-kill-germs-best-sterilizer.html

They basically say what I said.....though they used a shit ton more words to do it.....and the author seemed more interested in sex toys than disinfection. Whatever generates hits I guess......

 

[SlyPokerDog]

This is a big part of why I don't really get into what my "opinion" is, I just try to ask questions and of course I have bias' with those questions, but more and more I feel like the "information and data" on Covid19 / Coronavirus is murky I have no idea really who to believe and since so many "experts" are all saying different things I'm just kind of left to my own bias' to choose what to believe, which means I'm well aware I can't even trust my own opinions. So my opinion is pretty meaningless anyways, but even more so than normal.

Wash your hands.

Stay away from people.

 

[Hoopguru]

Every thread has to turn into some gotcha bullshit trying to get someone "on the record" of having some definitive stance or take on one thing after another, speaking for an entire group. Fuck is it tiring. Like some sorry excuse for a journalist trying to trap someone into a shitty soundbite.

You are right on with respect to journalist now days its all about Gotcha and going to print. Ethics in that industry are for the most part no more.

 

[CupWizier]

You are right on with respect to journalist now days its all about Gotcha and going to print. Ethics in that industry are for the most part no more.

It's really not that hard to check and verify much of the information and find sources that are reliable. If someone just does a quick search and grab anything off the internet like mags does then you're liable to get bitten in the ass.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Wash your hands.

Stay away from people.

So basically a normal day...?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Damn, China taking shots.

 

[calvin natt]

This thing is going to spike again next month. People can’t help themselves. People do what they want and everyone thinks it won’t happen to them.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Damn, China taking shots.

And a big Fuck you China!

 

[magnifier661]

Damn, China taking shots.

Lol if this actually came from China

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Lol if this actually came from China

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...e-coronavirus-crisis-Lego-like-animation.html

 

[barfo]

They pretty much nailed it.

barfo

 

[magnifier661]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...e-coronavirus-crisis-Lego-like-animation.html

 

[magnifier661]

Are they protesting in Oregon right now?

 

[MickZagger]

Are they protesting in Oregon right now?
https://www.facebook.com/1699520991/posts/10207701836219468/?

Yes. Oregon has plenty of dumbasses too

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Are they protesting in Oregon right now?
https://www.facebook.com/1699520991/posts/10207701836219468/?

"All of these people willing to catch a cold for freedom!"

 

[CupWizier]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...tified-critical-medical-shortages/ar-BB13uLtH

 

[Minstrel]

Stay-at-home orders: Anti-quarantine protesters are a minority

Don’t be fooled by Fox News, Donald Trump, or the same type of groups that produced the Tea Party a decade ago: The protesters taking to the streets against social distancing are a small minority of Americans — and their attitudes represent a fraction of public opinion.

In fact, America has done something remarkable in this moment: It has united.

Last week, 81 percent of Americans told pollsters for a Politico/Morning Consult poll that the country “should continue to social distance for as long as is needed to curb the spread of coronavirus, even if it means continued damage to the economy.”

Let me repeat that: 81 percent of Americans agree. That’s an astounding figure.

An NBC poll found a lower rate at 60 percent, but still a solid majority. Large majorities of Democrats and independents are more concerned about the virus than the economy, as are about half of Republicans.

This consensus is striking given that Americans live in an era when they’re divided along party lines on everything from climate change to the NFL.

 

[riverman]

"All of these people willing to catch a cold for freedom!"

Looks to me like a hodgepodge of alcoholics and sports addicts who've seen every rerun on ESPN one too many times....that and some homeless bystanders trying to bum a smoke

 

[wizenheimer]

Yeah it might be slow, but would you rather have slow start now, or in a year or...? So not only is your prediction it’ll be slow, your saying because it’ll be slow they should stay closed longer. Doesnt that just extend how long restaurant's and other small businesses have to have enough capital to keep afloat? Not sure anyone has said if they open things up life will be back to normal that day. I dont think they should open things up today, but all this really seems to prove is that most small businesses are dead and even if they reopen they’ll never get back to where they were.

sure...some of the damage is likely permanent. Many businesses operated on small margins with even smaller reserves. But that kind of damage happens whenever there is a recession or major economic disruption. And that means that many jobs have disappeared, probably for good...or for bad I guess

we are economically flat-lined now and I'm thinking that the return of the economy will be extremely slow, compared to where it was. It may be that the first 3 or 4 months will be close to flat-lined for most of the time. If that's true, then all the pushing for things to get back to normal quickly are pointless. If the restart is May 15 or June 25, it probably won't make much of a difference by Sept 1.

all I am suggesting is that it's better to set policy based upon data and best available science, rather than desperation, much of it at the federal level because of trump's re-election chances taking a beating

for instance, I keep seeing people say that the mortality rate will end up much lower than now....maybe well less that 1% because of all those who haven't been tested yet. But I made some notes: when we had performed 3.5M tests out mortality rate was 5.1%' when we hit 5M tests, our mortality rate was 5.4%. We've now nearly hit the 6.9M test mark and our mortality rate is 5.8%. Our mortality rate when we were at 11,000 tests per million was 5.2%. We are now at 20,765 tests/million and we are at that 5.8% mortality rate. We are testing at a much higher level than we were a couple of weeks ago and yet, the death rate is increasing when people have been predicting it would decrease dramatically. Maybe we should figure out what's going on with all that before opening the country up



* Spain is testing at a much higher rate than the US and their death rate is 10.2%
* Italy is testing at a much higher rate as well and their death rate is 13.7%
* Germany is held as a model for doing things right; they are testing at a much higher rate than the US. And yet their death rate is 4.1%

why aren't those number going down?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Death Rate would make a great heavy metal band name.

 

[riverman]

Death Rate would make a great heavy metal band name.

Right up there with Killer Mutant Virus

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

sure...some of the damage is likely permanent. Many businesses operated on small margins with even smaller reserves. But that kind of damage happens whenever there is a recession or major economic disruption. And that means that many jobs have disappeared, probably for good...or for bad I guess

we are economically flat-lined now and I'm thinking that the return of the economy will be extremely slow, compared to where it was. It may be that the first 3 or 4 months will be close to flat-lined for most of the time. If that's true, then all the pushing for things to get back to normal quickly are pointless. If the restart is May 15 or June 25, it probably won't make much of a difference by Sept 1.

all I am suggesting is that it's better to set policy based upon data and best available science, rather than desperation, much of it at the federal level because of trump's re-election chances taking a beating

for instance, I keep seeing people say that the mortality rate will end up much lower than now....maybe well less that 1% because of all those who haven't been tested yet. But I made some notes: when we had performed 3.5M tests out mortality rate was 5.1%' when we hit 5M tests, our mortality rate was 5.4%. We've now nearly hit the 6.9M test mark and our mortality rate is 5.8%. Our mortality rate when we were at 11,000 tests per million was 5.2%. We are now at 20,765 tests/million and we are at that 5.8% mortality rate. We are testing at a much higher level than we were a couple of weeks ago and yet, the death rate is increasing when people have been predicting it would decrease dramatically. Maybe we should figure out what's going on with all that before opening the country up

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* Spain is testing at a much higher rate than the US and their death rate is 10.2%
* Italy is testing at a much higher rate as well and their death rate is 13.7%
* Germany is held as a model for doing things right; they are testing at a much higher rate than the US. And yet their death rate is 4.1%

why aren't those number going down?

Has anyone really gotten to a point they are testing those who aren't showing symptoms? Cause I wouldn't expect those numbers to go down until more testing is done on people who aren't sick from it.

 

[Orion Bailey]

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Is it me or does anyone else see a giant skeleton looking face staring down at them?

 

[magnifier661]

Is it me or does anyone else see a giant skeleton looking face staring down at them?

I don’t see it