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the CDC wants to be relevant again, and regain it's credibility

unfortunately, I think the political appointees in the CDC did too much damage. They made major mistakes and gave out bad information they later had to reverse. But mainly, they abandoned their responsibility to the public by being far too deferential to the anti-science white house. It was a betrayal of the public trust, and their national and international reputation has been damaged so badly, the CDC may never recover it's past position:

https://news.yahoo.com/after-months...w-090053863.html?soc_src=hl-viewer&soc_trk=tw
 
the 3 phases of our disaster:

"When the World Health Organization broadcast the warnings about a rapidly spreading novel coronavirus in the Wuhan province of China on Dec. 31, it was immediately obvious that it represented an enormous threat. After all, there had already been two serious epidemics resulting from similar viruses in the last two decades, one of them originating in the same geographic area. With their high death rates and easy person-to-person spread, both SARS and MERS represented something very near a nightmare scenario. Which was exactly why multiple tests of government response to a pandemic over the last 10 years—including at least two large-scale simulations run since Donald Trump took office—starred a virus exactly like the one that was front-and-center of the WHO warning.


It was an announcement that should have been meet with decisive action and extraordinary effort. In fact, in many nations it was. But in the United States, Donald Trump’s reaction to the threat of what would soon be named COVID-19 was to play golf, lots of golf, while denigrating any potential threat as a “hoax.” Republicans, whether they’re called U. S. senators or Fox News announcers or red-state governors, joined Trump in ignoring the warnings of health officials and serious outbreaks in other nations. That absolute refusal to prepare for what was coming, or to provide any sort of centralized testing and planning generated “Phase 1” of the U.S. response to the global pandemic: A level of both cases and deaths unmatched around the world. But in many ways, this initial failure is more forgivable than what came later.


As the nation’s case count and death toll climbed, Trump continued to dither, to push the idea of “miracle cures,” and to continue ignoring the advice of medical experts, even when they were sharing the same stage. But, for a passing moment at least, the obvious threat of the virus, underlined by overrun hospitals and refrigerated morgue trucks, was so great that even Republican governors made at least a gesture at taking action. States like Texas, Florida, and Arizona really did have a period of stay-at-home orders. There was even a day when Sean Hannity claimed that “I have always taken the coronavirus seriously.”


But that attitude didn’t last. Those stay-at-home orders were barely in place before Trump began pushing for them to be lifted. Fox News and right-wing radio banded together to support gun-totting hoods who stormed state capitols demanding that governors “reopen,” even in states where the “closing” was little more than lip service. And, after a couple of weeks in which Republican governors saw that the growth of new cases seemed to be slowing, they eagerly joined the “reopen” chorus. In fact, they did so even in places where the growth of cases never slowed.


This second phase of the pandemic response both compounded the mistakes of the first phase and made it nearly impossible that the United States would have any outcome short of an even greater disaster. Because governor after governor—and I’m looking at you, Ron DeSantis, and Greg Abbott, and Mike Parsons—treated the slow-down in cases as if it were completely unconnected from the lockdown period.


Experts had urged the stay-at-home orders expressly because they would help to break the transmission chain of COVID-19 and generate a reduction in cases, allowing time for development of treatment and vaccines. However, in the United States, as soon as that reduction in the transmission rate arrived, Republicans seemed to forget why it had happened in the first place. That allowed people like DeSantis to make speeches about how everything was going better than predicted while utterly ignoring the fact that they were only days past the end of lockdown.


In this phase of unwarranted and overwhelming complacency, Republicans pushed opening, and opening more, and opening more, without even bothering to see the results of their last action. From malls to tattoo artists, restaurants to summer camps, red-state governors opened them all, tossing more logs onto the pandemic fire even before the last one had started to burn.


When the decline in cases predictably reversed, the nation entered Phase 3 of this event: Pure murder. Not only was the increase in cases perfectly predictable—it was predicted. And still Republicans are seeking to blame everything, and everyone, for the results of this outcome other than their own actions. The epitome of this might be Mike Pence’s repeated finger-pointing toward “young people” getting together without practicing social distancing or wearing a mask … while ignoring social distancing and not wearing a mask. Worse still, Republicans across the board—in the White House, in Congress, and in the media—have turned the two actions that we know can slow the rate of spread into “political statements.”


As Auric Goldfinger once quipped to James Bond: “Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.” The failures of both federal and state level responses in the initial phase of the pandemic were both horrific and unnecessary, but they were also almost the expected outcomes from a party that had spent not just Trump’s time in office, but decades upholding the value of “gut” above facts. Having made knowledge into an enemy, the nation dined out on ignorance to the tune of 100,000 dead.


The actions during Phase 2—as governors reopened their states in the face of not only further warnings, but with complete disregard for the guidelines coming from within the government itself—were worse. It wasn’t just that in this period the opportunity for genuine relief was squandered, but that it also became clear that state governors had once more placed the concerns of keeping Donald Trump and Fox News pleased far ahead of the health and safety of their citizens.


The current phase of the pandemic is simply murder. Not just the unnecessary sacrifice of lives and health, but the destruction of jobs and economic security, by championing ego over everything. COVID-19 is, and always was, a deadly disease, the health effects of which will leave a generational ripple in the form of a number of disabled that greatly exceeds the appalling number of deaths. The economic and diplomatic effects could well be a black swan event for America in the sense of derailing the nation and removing any concept of the U.S. as a “world leader” in any form other than the awful. Rather than being concerned about how he can get contract-killing Russians back into the G7, Trump would be better served finding reasons why the United States should not be heaved out.


The United States entered into this disaster riding a wave of deliberate ignorance and disdain for expertise. At every step, Republicans haven’t just made things worse by attacking any attempt into take logical action—the latest phase of this response compounds the previous errors by refusing to even recognize cause and effect.


Rather than thoughts and prayers, the nation needs reasoning and rational action. But if that phase is going to come, someone else will have to deliver it."

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...-United-States-and-why-it-keeps-getting-worse
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I detest trump, and I detest what the GOP has become.

that said, I think the author is heaping all the blame on the R's when some of it should be spread around. Democratic governors like Newsome and Kate Brown deserve a little blame here too. Maybe that's a bit unfair because they were under enormous pressure to re-open the economy. But they absolutely didn't have to re-open on the fast schedule they did

but maybe as much as the R's and the D's, a nation of for & by the people shares blame here, especially the younger people who are leading the way in irresponsible behavior right now. The resistance by so many to simple social distancing and the refusals to wear masks is the epitome of the dangerous mix of ignorance and arrogance
 
of all places, Umatilla County is Oregon's hot spot for Covid:

* "Umatilla County saw one of the largest spikes in daily coronavirus cases this week with an average of 44 cases per day, the second most in Oregon, as the county’s top health official cited workplace outbreaks spurred by sick employees returning to their jobs as a major contributor.

A county commissioner said some people also are refusing to wear masks."

* "Among other counties, Umatilla had the highest single-day case count statewide this week with 88 on Thursday. The county’s daily average places it just behind Multnomah County and just ahead of Washington County, which both have over 500,000 more residents."

* "Joseph Fiumara, Umatilla County’s public health director, said workplace infections are pushing the surge.

Employees with minor symptoms are returning to work to pay rent and support their families as businesses reopen, he said. They have unintentionally caused small outbreaks throughout the county, he said.

“A lot of time, people just don’t think they have the virus,” Fiumara said. “They think it’s allergies. The symptoms are so minor that they go to work for a few days – slight runny nose or scratchy throat – then they go in and get tested and it comes back positive.”

* "Umatilla is now one of eight rural counties placed Friday on a “watch list” by Gov. Kate Brown because of their “alarming levels” of coronavirus spread.

“If the counties do not see a downturn quickly, restrictive measures such as business closures or tighter gathering size limits will ensue,” the governor’s office said in the statement"

* "As part of an effort to slow the spread of COVID-19, the governor has announced a new statewide rule this week that requires Oregonians ages 12 and up to don a face mask in indoor public spaces.

“I do not want to have to close down businesses again like other states are now doing,” Brown said in a statement. “If you want your local shops and restaurants to stay open, then wear a face covering when out in public.”

George Murdock, an Umatilla County commissioner who oversees the county’s response to the virus, said mask-wearing is now a politically divisive topic around the county.

It has become a certain “badge of honor” to not wear a mask, he said. “We’re trying to dispel that notion.” "

this refusal-to-wear-masks is a lethal mixture of stupidity, ignorance, arrogance, and asshole.
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
I’m not even going to be nice about it. I hope she gives it to Cum Stain Jr and he (and his sperm donor) learn a new reality. Sorry for being crude, but that is how far that whole family has degraded us.
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Totally agree but watch out you’re gonna hurt a lot of feelings in here.
 
Florida reports more than 11,000 COVID-19 cases - shattering its daily record as Miami imposes curfew while experts warn July 4 weekend could 'tip the US over the edge' as infections rise in 40 states
  • Traditional July 4 parades, parties and fireworks shows have been canceled in many areas owing to COVID-19
  • Millions are still flocking to celebrate on beaches and at private parties despite the risk of virus spreading
  • Data shows pandemic is far from over with infections rising in 40 states and 52,300 new cases on Friday
  • Florida on Saturday reported at least 11,445 new coronavirus cases, the state’s largest number so far
  • Donald Trump will view military flyovers and a mile-long pyrotechnics display on the National Mall
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...fire-BBQs-records-record-infection-surge.html
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Florida reports more than 11,000 COVID-19 cases - shattering its daily record as Miami imposes curfew while experts warn July 4 weekend could 'tip the US over the edge' as infections rise in 40 states
  • Traditional July 4 parades, parties and fireworks shows have been canceled in many areas owing to COVID-19
  • Millions are still flocking to celebrate on beaches and at private parties despite the risk of virus spreading
  • Data shows pandemic is far from over with infections rising in 40 states and 52,300 new cases on Friday
  • Florida on Saturday reported at least 11,445 new coronavirus cases, the state’s largest number so far
  • Donald Trump will view military flyovers and a mile-long pyrotechnics display on the National Mall
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...fire-BBQs-records-record-infection-surge.html
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Seems like the people have decided to try herd immunity out on their own;

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Senator Joni Ernst (R-IA) said it was a failure of leadership when two Americans died of Ebola during the Obama Administration. With 130,000 Americans dead of Corona virus, she said that shows Trump is an engaged leader.
 
I really wish I wouldn't have signed a 16 month lease down here in the sunshine state back in January. Should have just quit my job and driven home. What a joke. Glad I don't live in Miami I guess.
 
crandc said:
Senator Joni Ernst (R-IA) said it was a failure of leadership when two Americans died of Ebola during the Obama Administration. With 130,000 Americans dead of Corona virus, she said that shows Trump is an engaged leader.
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She's been bad from the very get go. I hope and pray she gets dumped but knowing Oklahoman residents like I do I don't hold out much hope.
 
RipCityDSCPL said:
Well, Goood for you.

When we have people crying about wearing masks nothing is off the table of something that looks like a joke being completely serious.
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Why the crude remark directed at me?
I made no such remark directed at you, nor did I intend one.
All I was stating was something was obvious to me, doesn't mean it was obvious to anyone else.
 
Lanny said:
She's been bad from the very get go. I hope and pray she gets dumped but knowing Oklahoman residents like I do I don't hold out much hope.
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Iowa. I think she's more likely to win than not, but it looks like a close race.
 
Lanny said:
Why the crude remark directed at me?
I made no such remark directed at you, nor did I intend one.
All I was stating was something was obvious to me, doesn't mean it was obvious to anyone else.
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Yeah you did. You're response implied I was stupid because I didn't see it was satire as you so obviously did.







Question;

Am I joking or being 100% serious?
 
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