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ill never get that shot. nobody on earth can make me get that shot. cant even remember the last time I got a flu shot.
 
Jon said:
ill never get that shot. nobody on earth can make me get that shot. cant even remember the last time I got a flu shot.
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Curious--what's the reason for your vehement opposition?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Pfizer halts corona vaccine shipments to Israel after country fails to pay

Pfizer has halted shipments of coronavirus vaccines to Israel in outrage over the country failing to transfer payment for the last 2.5 million doses it supplied to the country, The Jerusalem Post has learned.

Senior officials at Pfizer have said they are concerned that the government-in-transition will not pay up and the company does not want to be taken advantage of. They said that they do not understand how such a situation can occur in an organized country.

Army Radio reported that Pfizer called Israel a “banana republic.”

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news...srael-failed-to-pay-for-covid-vaccines-664140
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I WONDER WHAT MEYERS LEONARD HAS TO SAY ABOUT THIS
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Curious--what's the reason for your vehement opposition?
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1. it hasn't been proven yet. it is still unknown as well as the side effects. vaccines take at least 5 years to be perfected and they want you to believe that this one was perfected within 9 months? pfft.
2. you can still get covid and contract it to other people. just ask my son's speech therapist.
3. you still have to abide by tyrannical mandates.
4. I'm pretty sure I had it last year in February and I was only down for 2 days.

i have more, but ill probably get flack for these ones as it is.
 
Jon said:
1. it hasn't been proven yet. it is still unknown as well as the side effects. vaccines take at least 5 years to be perfected and they want you to believe that this one was perfected within 9 months? pfft.
2. you can still get covid and contract it to other people. just ask my son's speech therapist.
3. you still have to abide by tyrannical mandates.
4. I'm pretty sure I had it last year in February and I was only down for 2 days.

i have more, but ill probably get flack for these ones as it is.
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Team doctors thought I had it last February when Gary,CJ and me got deathly sick on our road trip. Anti-bodies test proved I hadn’t got it.
 
20 hours since the shot. No side effects whatsoever. Woke up feeling like I had a charley horse, that’s it.
One thing though, my phone is getting much better signal when I hold it next to where they gave me the shot, interesting.
Halfway there FAMS!
 
THE HCP said:
Team doctors thought I had it last February when Gary,CJ and me got deathly sick on our road trip. Anti-bodies test proved I hadn’t got it.
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i had every symptom of it. literally every one. so did my wife, my co workers and a few friends. literally within a couple week span.

here is a true scenario for you:

i have a friend (mitch) and his wife (carol). they live at home with their 2 sons (Brandon and Cameron), Cameron's girlfriend (Samantha) and their daughter. well, Brandon tested positive for covid. they all got sick with the exact same symptoms as Brandon within 12 hours. so they all went to get tested. literally everyone else tested negative. Brandon was the only one to test positive. how is this possible? bad testing. has to be. either he tested a false positive or everyone else tested a false negative.

also, my mom worked (retired) from Kaiser in their microbiology lab (for 20+ years). she said the machines they use for testing covid run in cycles (i cant remember what the machines were called. she told me, but i forgot). they give out false tests all the time.
 
Jon said:
1. it hasn't been proven yet. it is still unknown as well as the side effects. vaccines take at least 5 years to be perfected and they want you to believe that this one was perfected within 9 months? pfft.
2. you can still get covid and contract it to other people. just ask my son's speech therapist.
3. you still have to abide by tyrannical mandates.
4. I'm pretty sure I had it last year in February and I was only down for 2 days.

i have more, but ill probably get flack for these ones as it is.
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All valid concerns.

#2 is the one that really gets me. A major argument in favor of other vaccines is the value of herd immunity--vaccinating nearly everyone so that those who can't are still protected. But if a COVID-vaccine recipient can still spread the virus, that seems to eliminate a lot of the upside.
 
Jon said:
also, my mom worked (retired) from Kaiser in their microbiology lab (for 20+ years). she said the machines they use for testing covid run in cycles (i cant remember what the machines were called. she told me, but i forgot). they give out false tests all the time.
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PCR Test. Created by Kary Mullis. RIP 2019.
 
Time for.....

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PtldPlatypus said:
All valid concerns.

#2 is the one that really gets me. A major argument in favor of other vaccines is the value of herd immunity--vaccinating nearly everyone so that those who can't are still protected. But if a COVID-vaccine recipient can still spread the virus, that seems to eliminate a lot of the upside.
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That’s simply not true. Herd immunity to a disease happens when there are enough people who have obtained immunity, either by having the disease or by getting vaccinated, that it can’t spread readily because there aren’t enough potential hosts to keep the spread going. Immunity doesn’t have to be perfect for that to happen. A recent study has shown that the real world efficacy of the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines is about 90 percent. That’s far in excess of what would be needed to stop community spread if most people were vaccinated. Beyond the 90 percent overall efficacy, the vaccines have been shown to be virtually 100 percent effective at preventing serious illness. People who don’t get vaccinated are not only putting themselves and their loved ones at greater risk, they are lengthening the duration of the pandemic and all of the death and economic impacts that go along with it.
 
Jon said:
ill never get that shot. nobody on earth can make me get that shot. cant even remember the last time I got a flu shot.
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Maybe you'll change your mind if you get Covid-19. Of course, then it will be too late.
 
Lanny said:
Maybe you'll change your mind if you get Covid-19. Of course, then it will be too late.
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already had it. it didn't do anything more than feeling like I had the flu for maybe 2 days.

no. it wont change my mind at all. nothing will.
 
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