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Biden "doesn't think" he can require vaccines for American's. Seems to be a trend with him. #DataScience
 
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Phatguysrule said:
No, mostly just the unvaccinated. Vaccinated old people aren't getting infected or dying of covid-19 at rates as high as unvaccinated people.

Stupid is the common theme here...
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You might wanna double check that. Or I could just let you know your wrong. 3/4 of all deaths are 65+.
 
jonnyboy said:
You might wanna double check that. Or I could just let you know your wrong. 3/4 of all deaths are 65+.
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And well over 90% (probably over 99%) have been unvaccinated.

Edit* Yep, as of the end of June, 750 fully vaccinated people had died of covid-19. I can't find newer data than that. Over 99% of people who have died of covid-19 this year have been unvaccinated.

You get the vaccine and you can be sure you are not going to die of covid-19.

So, like I said...

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covi...ll-us-covid-19-deaths-now-in-the-unvaccinated
 
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jonnyboy said:
That makes them not old? You’ve yet to disprove anything I said. Calling people stupid doesn’t make you right.
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It just means more were unvaccinated than old. Which means you were wrong. It's not more of an old problem it's more of an unvaccinated problem. Free. Readily available. Stupid to avoid for the vast majority of of the population.

So yeah. You are wrong. 100% wrong. Old vaccinated people are not dying of covid-19 as frequently as stupid unvaccinated people. It's not even close.
 


It cites a combination of recently obtained, still-unpublished data from outbreak investigations and outside studies showing that vaccinated individuals infected with delta may be able to transmit the virus as easily as those who are unvaccinated. Vaccinated people infected with delta have measurable viral loads similar to those who are unvaccinated and infected with the variant.

“I finished reading it significantly more concerned than when I began,” Robert Wachter, chairman of the Department of Medicine at the University of California at San Francisco, wrote in an email.
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EL PRESIDENTE said:
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The document strikes an urgent note, revealing the agency knows it must revamp its public messaging to emphasize vaccination as the best defense against a variant so contagious that it acts almost like a different novel virus, leaping from target to target more swiftly than Ebola or the common cold.
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I see another shut down coming in our future. Another shut down means more protests. More protests means more unnecessary rioting. I hope I’m wrong!
 
Phatguysrule said:
So yeah. You are wrong. 100% wrong. Old vaccinated people are not dying of covid-19 as frequently as stupid unvaccinated people. It's not even close.
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I said mostly old people die of covid, which is true. You snuck in variables like “old vaccinated” and “stupid unvaccinated” to try and obscure the fact that it’s overwhelmingly the elderly that succumb to this disease, a fact which still hasn’t changed since your meandering argument started.
 
jonnyboy said:
I said mostly old people die of covid, which is true. You snuck in variables like “old vaccinated” and “stupid unvaccinated” to try and obscure the fact that it’s overwhelmingly the elderly that succumb to this disease, a fact which still hasn’t changed since your meandering argument started.
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Well, actually what you said was that covid 'fixes old a lot better' than it 'fixes stupid'.
So the relevant question is whether more deaths are of old people, or stupid people.

barfo
 
jonnyboy said:
I said mostly old people die of covid, which is true. You snuck in variables like “old vaccinated” and “stupid unvaccinated” to try and obscure the fact that it’s overwhelmingly the elderly that succumb to this disease, a fact which still hasn’t changed since your meandering argument started.
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Keep trying to spin it. You're just making yourself look bad.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
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Delta is less transmissible among vaccinated people because fewer vaccinated people catch it. Only 5-10% of vaccinated individuals can catch it. Because the vaccine is only 90-95% effective. As it has been all along (at least similarly).

But vaccinated individuals are not dying of the Delta variant.

Moral of the story. GET VACCINATED
 
BigGameDamian said:
And probably the most people walking around maskless.
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No, we are down the list.
No. 1 would have to be India (Trump admirer).
No. 2 is most likely Brazil (Trump admirer).
No. 3 is most likely some (Trump admirer) country with a large population, oh, that would be us.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Keep trying to spin it. You're just making yourself look bad.
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You’re right. The elderly are generally unaffected by covid. Please don’t think poorly of me for thinking otherwise the first time. Unvaccinated old people don’t count as old people, they simply fall under the ‘unvaccinated scum’ category. There are no meaningful demographics to pull data from other than vaccinated or unvaccinated. Only unvaccinated people die when they get covid. And no vaccinated people die. That’s why the vaccinated are so worried about catching covid from an unvaccinated person and dying. Science.
 
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