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What do you mean "safe and effective"? So no one has ever suffered side affects from vaccine? No one has ever died from Covid vaccine? And there are absolutely no side affects/long term affects EVER from Covid vaccine two years, three years, five years after getting vaccine? The vaccine is effective because no one has ever got Covid after getting vaccine? Hmmmm ......
Means it is far safer than not getting vaccinated. You are hundreds of times more likely to die from covid-19 than from the vaccine. And if not enough people get vaccinated you WILL catch covid-19 soon.
 

More misleading propaganda.

This is the same as saying guns should be banned because America has a lot of guns and high numbers of gun crimes.

You're spreading posts which are implying causation. Leading to conclusions which are not supported by actual data.
 
The virus goes up and down in numbers independent of lockdowns, mask usage and vaccination rates.

Look at Florida, it had one of the lower death rates recently and they are living semi normal. There are not real discernable patterns emerging yet and it's important to take a look at everything

And how many people in Florida had to die to get there
 
And how many people in Florida had to die to get there

Florida is a retirement community. Old people die from COVID at a significantly higher rate due to their age.

The numbers go up and down everywhere. Sometimes they are doing awesome, sometimes they suck.
 
Florida is a retirement community. Old people die from COVID at a significantly higher rate due to their age.

The numbers go up and down everywhere. Sometimes they are doing awesome, sometimes they suck.

Got an excuse for everything
 
The virus goes up and down in numbers independent of lockdowns, mask usage and vaccination rates.

Look at Florida, it had one of the lower death rates recently and they are living semi normal. There are not real discernable patterns emerging yet and it's important to take a look at everything
Then look at all of the numbers and you find that red states have overall higher infection and death rates, even while being generally far less densely populated.
 
Then look at all of the numbers and you find that red states have overall higher infection and death rates, even while being generally far less densely populated.

Being less populated affects infection and death rates in a negative way.
 
What do you mean "safe and effective"? So no one has ever suffered side affects from vaccine? No one has ever died from Covid vaccine? And there are absolutely no side affects/long term affects EVER from Covid vaccine two years, three years, five years after getting vaccine? The vaccine is effective because no one has ever got Covid after getting vaccine? Hmmmm ......

yeah that person tries to “call me out” on superficial trivialities and semantics but then loves making generalizing all encompassing statements like this.
grab your popcorn!
 
If a state has a lower population, one death or infection will count more when considering rates.
You've followed along to all this the past 2 years, posted in here countless times, and then say this? Have you missed how often things are posted in rates/per? And how they're rarely ever posted in a total percentage of population?
 
You've followed along to all this the past 2 years, posted in here countless times, and then say this? Have you missed how often things are posted in rates/per? And how they're rarely ever posted in a total percentage of population?

100 people in Oregon infected is the same rate as 1000 infected in California.
 
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If a state has a lower population, one death or infection will count more when considering rates.
I think the point was that in less densely populated areas there is more distance between people and less contact hence less infection. I've heard a multitude of epidemiologists stress this and it makes sense.
 
Just lost my 4th friend/family member to this. Didn’t feel the vaccine was “good for him”. Now he’ll start rotting soon.
Anybody else want to start updating their personal death toll on here?
 
Just lost my 4th friend/family member to this. Didn’t feel the vaccine was “good for him”. Now he’ll start rotting soon.
Anybody else want to start updating their personal death toll on here?
I've been lucky. I've only known two people to get infected and only one of them was vaccinated although both are now. No one has died on my watch not even those with seriously compromised immune systems in my dialysis unit. There have been some deaths in the VA hospital but I have no idea who they were.
I'm supposed to get an operation to replace the peritoneal dialysis catheter that got infected and removed but there seems to be some hang up. I'm wondering if it's because the hospital is flooded with Covid-19 infected patients taking up hospital resources. That would piss me off since it's virtually preventable.
 
What do you mean "safe and effective"? So no one has ever suffered side affects from vaccine? No one has ever died from Covid vaccine? And there are absolutely no side affects/long term affects EVER from Covid vaccine two years, three years, five years after getting vaccine? The vaccine is effective because no one has ever got Covid after getting vaccine? Hmmmm ......
Didn't say that.
Safe means for vast majority side effects minimal, mostly transitory sore arm. Nothing in medicine, or life, is 100% safe. Not even aspirin. But compare vaccine to disease. More than 700,000 dead of Covid vs 0 from vaccine.
Effective means vastly reduced chance of infection and, in the cases where infection occurs, vastly reduced chance of serious illness.
It's not difficult. Unless you have a political agenda that requires denial.
Hmmmmm
 
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