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jonnyboy said:
I wasn’t even talking about Biden. I was riffing on the fact that the CEO of a drug company is basically setting health standards, predicated on the consumption of a product he happens to be selling.
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Except that's not what's happening at all. He is releasing their recommendations. Everybody knows he has a profit motive.

That's why we have the CDC to verify.
 
riverman said:
Today we reached 800,000 deaths from the virus......mods change the title....that's more covid deaths than any other nation on the planet....
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Just because we can detect the ‘genetic fingerprint’ of a virus doesn’t prove it’s the cause of a disease:

“Detection of viral RNA may not indicate the presence of infectious virus or that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent for clinical symptoms.”

So, while there’s little doubt that using PCR to identify the genetic fingerprint of a Covid-19 virus is the gold standard in molecular science, there’s equally no doubt that using it as the gold standard to quantify Covid-19 ‘cases’ and ‘deaths’ is “ill-advised.”
 
riverman said:
Today we reached 800,000 deaths from the virus......mods change the title....that's more covid deaths than any other nation on the planet....
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"Allegedly". I'm willing to bet that China has had more deaths than the U.S. Maybe India too?
 
HailBlazers said:
Just because we can detect the ‘genetic fingerprint’ of a virus doesn’t prove it’s the cause of a disease:

“Detection of viral RNA may not indicate the presence of infectious virus or that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent for clinical symptoms.”

So, while there’s little doubt that using PCR to identify the genetic fingerprint of a Covid-19 virus is the gold standard in molecular science, there’s equally no doubt that using it as the gold standard to quantify Covid-19 ‘cases’ and ‘deaths’ is “ill-advised.”
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deaths can be attributed to covid....doubt is being justified by those who are buying into the anti vax propaganda...it's just a republican denial talking point. Fact is in the end the heart stopping beating is the cause of all death but covid has led to a lot of still hearts....almost a million now. There's no reason to die from covid if you have taken safety precautions seriously and gotten vaccinated...of course some people are dying before they get covid...that's true of many types of death....people can eat themselves to death in America....one of the only countries where overeating is a serious disease. The biggest factor in covid denial from everything I've seen is money...people don't want to stop making it and want to open up biz....it's a shame because if we had bought into safety measures two years ago, we would have saved 100's of thousands of lives. When the president gets covid and willingly spreads it ...you've got problems. Some asymptomatic young people have been carriers without knowing it....they are not the high risk segment of the population though...that would be my generation
 
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tlongII said:
"Allegedly". I'm willing to bet that China has had more deaths than the U.S. Maybe India too?
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Add the US to that equation...nursing homes didn't report covid deaths to stay in business early on in the pandemic...I'm sure that's happened everywhere but where we need to look are the countries that successfully kept the worst of it at bay by 100% of the population agreeing to safety protocols....two years and change in we still have tens of thousands of deniers rebelling about public safety.
 
jonnyboy said:
We all have loved ones “rotting away” underground dude. Beautiful imagery by the way. I’m sure my corny Idiocracy reference is so much more offensive than your crude depiction of people’s deceased loved ones.
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So you HAVEN’T had anybody close to you die during this pandemic? Explains a lot.
 
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https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/12/14...te-not-seen-with-any-other-covid-variant.html

Omicron is spreading faster than any other Covid variant, WHO warns


KEY POINTS
  • "Omicron is spreading at a rate we have not seen with any previous variant," WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said during a Covid update in Geneva
  • "The reality is that omicron is probably in most countries, even if it hasn't been detected yet," Tedros said.
  • Tedros said vaccines alone will not protect against omicron. He called for countries to use masks, social distancing, proper ventilation and hand hygiene to prevent contagion
 
BigGameDamian said:
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/12/14...te-not-seen-with-any-other-covid-variant.html

Omicron is spreading faster than any other Covid variant, WHO warns


KEY POINTS
  • "Omicron is spreading at a rate we have not seen with any previous variant," WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said during a Covid update in Geneva
  • "The reality is that omicron is probably in most countries, even if it hasn't been detected yet," Tedros said.
  • Tedros said vaccines alone will not protect against omicron. He called for countries to use masks, social distancing, proper ventilation and hand hygiene to prevent contagion
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"Researchers testing coronavirus samples in Washington state have recorded a rapid rise in cases with a mutation that is characteristic of the omicron variant, mirroring trends that have emerged in countries like South Africa, Britain and Denmark.

Researchers at the University of Washington found that 13% of 217 positive coronavirus case specimens collected Wednesday had the mutation. That was up from about 7% of samples they had tested from the day before, and 3% from the day before that — in a region that had its first identified cases only two weeks ago.

“It’s clearly looking like it’s rising really quickly,” said Dr. Pavitra Roychoudhury, a researcher at the University of Washington."

That is some serious exponential growth going on.
 
Idk if it’s the new variant but the nfl and nba are getting hit hard by covid in the last week or so. Especially the past few days
 
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