OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting (17 Viewers)

[noknobs]

I for example just had covid. It was less bothersome than a cold. Now i have immunity which is much superior to the vaccine including stopping spread.

It's amazing that people continue to think that natural immunity is permanent and just as effective against new variants but vaccines are not.

COVID Natural Immunity: What You Need to Know
New studies show that natural immunity to the coronavirus weakens (wanes) over time, and does so faster than immunity provided by COVID-19 vaccination.

• The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) released a report on Oct. 29, 2021, that says getting vaccinated for the coronavirus when you’ve already had COVID-19 significantly enhances your immune protection and further reduces your risk of reinfection.
• A study published in August 2021 indicates that if you had COVID-19 before and are not vaccinated, your risk of getting re-infected is more than two times higher than for those who got vaccinated after having COVID-19.
• Another study published on Nov. 5, 2021, by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) looked at adults hospitalized for COVID-like sickness between January and September 2021. This study found that the chances of these adults testing positive for COVID-19 were 5.49 times higher in unvaccinated people who had COVID-19 in the past than they were for those who had been vaccinated for COVID and had not had an infection before.
• A study from the CDC in September 2021 showed that roughly one-third of those with COVID-19 cases in the study had no apparent natural immunity

Also,

• Report 49: Growth, population distribution and immune escape of Omicron in England+ - "Omicron was associated with a 5.41 (95% CI: 4.87-6.00) fold higher risk of reinfection compared with Delta. This suggests relatively low remaining levels of immunity from prior infection."
• Striking antibody evasion manifested by the Omicron variant of SARS-CoV-2 - "Antibodies from people double-vaccinated with any of the four most widely used vaccines—Moderna, Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson—were significantly less effective at neutralizing the omicron variant compared to the ancestral virus. Antibodies from previously infected individuals were even less likely to neutralize omicron."
• UTMB study shows unvaccinated, natural immunity offers little protection against omicron -
  "This means, if you had COVID in the past, and if you're unvaccinated, protection quickly fades against the omicron variant. The reason why is omicron has many more mutations than previous variants."

 

[Strenuus]

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Lol despite a vast majority of data saying the most beds being taken up are by unvaccinated. It's just... How do people not know basic things about this pandemic at this point? Lol.

 

[crandc]

Covid denier Ron Johnson, who after saying he would only serve two terms in the Senate is running for a third, declared if Republicans get the Senate majority they will demand Dr. Fauci appear for Benghazi style hearings.

No platform, no ideas on controlling pandemic or helping health workers, just vengeance.

 

[Strenuus]

Covid denier Ron Johnson, who after saying he would only serve two terms in the Senate is running for a third, declared if Republicans get the Senate majority they will demand Dr. Fauci appear for Benghazi style hearings.

No platform, no ideas on controlling pandemic or helping health workers, just vengeance.

It's because at this point that's all they have left. They are eating themselves at this point and it's a matter of time before they are all gone. They got caught with their hand in the cookie jar (Trump) and they won't recover. It's just a matter of time. They went too far.

 

[Road Ratt]

I Saw Firsthand What It Takes to Keep COVID Out of Hong Kong. It Felt Like a Different Planet.

https://www.propublica.org/article/...-of-hong-kong-it-felt-like-a-different-planet

Edit: Quote: Concerned about the delta variant, 15 countries including the U.S. were added to the “high-risk” category in August of last year.

 

[Lanny]

It's because at this point that's all they have left. They are eating themselves at this point and it's a matter of time before they are all gone. They got caught with their hand in the cookie jar (Trump) and they won't recover. It's just a matter of time. They went too far.

You would think so, but there's a lot of stupid people out that and they have power.
Here's a thought. When Trump loses the election in 2024 and his state legislators reverse it with the big lie, how about if Biden just refuses to step down?

 

[Strenuus]

You would think so, but there's a lot of stupid people out that and they have power.
Here's a thought. When Trump loses the election in 2024 and his state legislators reverse it with the big lie, how about if Biden just refuses to step down?

It's gonna be a slow process but it's deteriorating. It's just a matter of time.

They aren't going to try to reverse anything again. Their last hope is to get in 2022 with majority to disband the J6 committee (part of the reason they are trying all the voting suppression). They most likely won't get majority and they'll be it. Then accountability begins.

This J6 stuff is going slow but it is going to plan. We are just an impatient society now.

 

[riverman]

The Jan 6th commision is targeting summer to finish compiling all evidence and testimony and let the public know what they've found. After that the dogs will be off leash and come out barking.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Covid denier Ron Johnson, who after saying he would only serve two terms in the Senate is running for a third, declared if Republicans get the Senate majority they will demand Dr. Fauci appear for Benghazi style hearings.

No platform, no ideas on controlling pandemic or helping health workers, just vengeance.

It's because at this point that's all they have left. They are eating themselves at this point and it's a matter of time before they are all gone. They got caught with their hand in the cookie jar (Trump) and they won't recover. It's just a matter of time. They went too far.

isnt this what the dems did against Trump?

No plan. Just vote someone else in, iut of hatred?

now some may spin this as some trump support, let those people get dizzy.
Im simply saying it sure is hypocritical to claim no plan and vengeance when that ls exactly waht the left just did.

Anyone but Trump!!! No plan but get trump out!

But im gonna keep shit real around here….

seems to be the same people over and over who dont…

 

[Lanny]

It's gonna be a slow process but it's deteriorating. It's just a matter of time.

They aren't going to try to reverse anything again. Their last hope is to get in 2022 with majority to disband the J6 committee (part of the reason they are trying all the voting suppression). They most likely won't get majority and they'll be it. Then accountability begins.

This J6 stuff is going slow but it is going to plan. We are just an impatient society now.

I fear this is what the Germans thought when Hitler came along.

 

[Phatguysrule]

isnt this what the dems did against Trump?

No plan. Just vote someone else in, iut of hatred?

now some may spin this as some trump support, let those people get dizzy.
Im simply saying it sure is hypocritical to claim no plan and vengeance when that ls exactly waht the left just did.

Anyone but Trump!!! No plan but get trump out!

But im gonna keep shit real around here….

seems to be the same people over and over who dont…

Getting Trump out was not about vengeance, it was self preservation.

Biden didn't run on a "lock him up" card. In fact most democratic candidates specifically avoided that kind of talk.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Getting Trump out was not about vengeance, it was self preservation.

Biden didn't run on a "lock him up" card. In fact most democratic candidates specifically avoided that kind of talk.

okay, lol.
I read sooo many posts… Anyone but the racist!!!!!!

to say people didnt vote against trump out of vengeance is sooo rich…..lol.

People were saying Biden is a puppet and the responses were “ Yeah but anything is better than…”


So to rail on someone for voting out of vengeance when the bulk of the 2020 election was out of vengeance and had nothing to do with a Biden policy direction is soooo laughable….

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Lanny]

okay, lol.
I read sooo many posts… Anyone but the racist!!!!!!

to say people didnt vote against trump out of vengeance is sooo rich…..lol.

People were saying Biden is a puppet and the responses were “ Yeah but anything is better than…”


So to rail on someone for voting out of vengeance when the bulk of the 2020 election was out of vengeance and had nothing to do with a Biden policy direction is soooo laughable….

Vengeance had nothing to do with it. Abhorring Trump's dynastic tendencies and having a President who lies constantly has something to do with it but mostly protecting our democracy had a lot to do with it. I don't believe in vengeance which is why I oppose the death penalty.

 

[barfo]

okay, lol.
I read sooo many posts… Anyone but the racist!!!!!!

to say people didnt vote against trump out of vengeance is sooo rich…..lol.

People were saying Biden is a puppet and the responses were “ Yeah but anything is better than…”


So to rail on someone for voting out of vengeance when the bulk of the 2020 election was out of vengeance and had nothing to do with a Biden policy direction is soooo laughable….

You appear to be mistaking self-defense for vengeance.

barfo

 

[Lanny]

You appear to be mistaking self-defense for vengeance.

barfo

In a nutshell, exactly. Well put.

 

[barfo]

isnt this what the dems did against Trump?

No plan. Just vote someone else in, iut of hatred?

No, not at all. The Democratic Party in 2020 had a platform they ran on (unlike the R's). And Biden himself had quite a few specific policy planks.

You may not like what he proposed, but it is definitely policy, not merely Trump hatred.

barfo

 

[Orion Bailey]

No, not at all. The Democratic Party in 2020 had a platform they ran on (unlike the R's). And Biden himself had quite a few specific policy planks.

You may not like what he proposed, but it is definitely policy, not merely Trump hatred.

barfo

To not be like trump? Wanst one of his campaign runs to get the covid testing under control… because it was Thought that Trump didnt have control because he was Trump?

i seem to remember a tweet the other day around here on how Biden said give him a year or something and he will fix it? Or he will get it under control?

Seems to me the bulk of everything was, i wont handle it like trump or i wont be trump?

and most people voted for Biden not for his policies, but to get Trump out of the office???

pretty darn sure thats how it went down?

 

[Orion Bailey]

You appear to be mistaking self-defense for vengeance.

barfo

self defense?

 

[Lanny]

self defense?

Yes, self defense of our democracy.

 

[Lanny]

To not be like trump? Wanst one of his campaign runs to get the covid testing under control… because it was Thought that Trump didnt have control because he was Trump?

i seem to remember a tweet the other day around here on how Biden said give him a year or something and he will fix it? Or he will get it under control?

Seems to me the bulk of everything was, i wont handle it like trump or i wont be trump?

and most people voted for Biden not for his policies, but to get Trump out of the office???

pretty darn sure thats how it went down?

Biden had a plank but there were a large number who voted anyone but Trump but can you blame them?

 

[Orion Bailey]

Biden had a plank but there were a large number who voted anyone but Trump but can you blame them?

not at all. Just saying, those in glass houses should throw stones.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[Hoopguru]

Couldn't agree more with Jake.
If there is a plan and objective, its good to measure criteria. What gets measured gets done.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Couldn't agree more with Jake.
If there is a plan and objective, its good to measure criteria. What gets measured gets done.

Glad they had this change of heart almost 2 years in.

 

[twobullz]

okay, lol.
I read sooo many posts… Anyone but the racist!!!!!!

to say people didnt vote against trump out of vengeance is sooo rich…..lol.

People were saying Biden is a puppet and the responses were “ Yeah but anything is better than…”


So to rail on someone for voting out of vengeance when the bulk of the 2020 election was out of vengeance and had nothing to do with a Biden policy direction is soooo laughable….

If I remember right in 2016 a lot of trumps votes were not for him , but for anyone but Hillary!

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Orion Bailey]

If I remember right in 2016 a lot of trumps votes were not for him , but for anyone but Hillary!

cant really argue with that other than for my own vote which had nothing to do with Hilary. I almost voted for her honestly but my conservative values kept me red.
But yeah, so round and round we go.
Who's gonna be the bigger party and stop pointing fingers and work for a better tomorrow?

Im sooo looking forward to that.. in my dreams tonight. Lol.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

 

[calvin natt]

I wanted anyone but trump. Me (raises hand). I’d rather have a blender running America than that pile of shit. I would like him to go play in a busy intersection on live tv. Can I make it any clearer? Fuck that guy and anyone who supports him.