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Phatguysrule said:
I don't pretend to know what I have no evidence of. I also don't care if they were maskless in their own area, outdoors, with vaccinated people.

I care about reasonably mitigating risk. What they did put nobody at increased risk.
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Wouldn't you say that if they had masks on the entire time, the risk would be less than if they were maskless?

Or do Masks not work?
 
Phatguysrule said:
Yes, if you're with a few vaccinated people outdoors, you shouldn't have to worry about getting a picture taken without a mask.

Just like you should be allowed to eat without a mask in a similar situation.
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Wait, you just said they were indoors in a private room?

And now they are outdoors?

What is it?
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Wait, you just said they were indoors in a private room?

And now they are outdoors?

What is it?
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It's an open air stadium... The suite is partitioned off from others. There is a constant flow of fresh air to all suites. It's far safer than eating dinner inside a restaurant or going shopping.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Wouldn't you say that if they had masks on the entire time, the risk would be less than if they were maskless?

Or do Masks not work?
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People who are vaccinated and boosted do not spread the disease at epidemic rates. The difference in a vaccinated person wearing a mask or not is negligible.

So if people are vaccinated it's not reasonable to consider, IMO.
 
Phatguysrule said:
People who are vaccinated and boosted do not spread the disease at epidemic rates. The difference in a vaccinated person wearing a mask or not is negligible.

So if people are vaccinated it's not reasonable to consider, IMO.
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Then why the mask mandate?

The county has deemed that your vaccination status is irrelevant to their mask mandates.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Doesn't matter, it still falls under the County's definition of a Mega event since there are more than 5,000 people.

http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/acd/ncorona2019/bestpractices/largeevents/
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Mega Event operators are responsible for messaging, signage and compliance with masking requirements unless attendees are actively eating or drinking.
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Looks like it's up to the event operator to determine when and where it's enforced.

The mandate is to make it easier for event operators to enforce the policy and to give them the backup of the police.

So if the event operators thought this was a problem I would support them making these people mask.

If that meant calling the police and 86ing them, I'd support that too.

But that didn't happen. Because nobody knew. Because they weren't in a large group of people.

Nothing burger.
 
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Phatguysrule said:
Says he took it off for a brief second. I have no reason not to believe him.
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That's because you have a clearly skewed and distorted perspective, based on your posts on this issue, as is blatantly obvious to everyone here.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
That's because you have a clearly skewed and distorted perspective, based on your posts on this issue, as is blatantly obvious to everyone here.
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Yes, that's entirely correct. Skewed toward supporting scientific evidence rather than political hatchet jobs.
 
It's not like Newsom doesn't have a history of making poor personal choices.

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EL PRESIDENTE said:
Glad you agree that Garcetti and Newsom's mask mandate for the vaccinated has no scientific basis.
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If you could somehow easily know that people weren't vaccinated and hold them accountable, then I would agree.

However, I think the mandate is the simplest solution while trampling on the fewest rights. So while it's not technically necessary, I do understand why it's logically necessary for some municipalities.
 
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/01/31...are-less-likely-to-spread-it-study-finds.html

The omicron subvariant is more contagious, but vaccinated people are less likely to spread it, study finds


KEY POINTS
  • Danish scientists found the BA.2 subvariant, which has rapidly become dominant in Denmark, spread more easily across all groups regardless of sex, age, household size and vaccination status.
  • However, only unvaccinated people demonstrated higher transmissibility of BA.2 compared to the BA.1 omicron strain, which could be due to their higher viral load.
  • The probability for spreading within a household was 39% for BA.2 versus 29% for BA.1, the study found
 
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