Could you handle a Philly style complete rebuild?

[SlyPokerDog]

Trade everyone you can for draft picks. Tank for 4 or 5 years.

And yes, that would mean trading Lillard. It would be cruel to put him through that.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

It is easy to say yes if it works out like it looks like it will with them. But the odds on it working are ultimately around 10%. So no. They just got lucky so great for them. We aren't lucky.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

It is easy to say yes if it works out like it looks like it will with them. But the odds on it working are ultimately around 10%. So no.

It's worked for Boston and Philly.

 

[santeesioux]

I don't want to be a treadmill team every year, and having high draft picks is exciting...

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Absolutely, but only if Olshey is NOT the one leading it. In fact, if it's to be a TRUE Philly-style rebuild, we need HINKIE!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

It is easy to say yes if it works out like it looks like it will with them. But the odds on it working are ultimately around 10%. So no. They just got lucky so great for them. We aren't lucky.

What are the odds of our current team improving?

 

[KeepOnRollin]

It's worked for Boston and Philly.

I don't see the two situations as close to comparable as you do apparently.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Who has a shot at the #1 pick and would give us it for Dame? (Serious question, not rhetorical.)

 

[Gronk Brady]

Where do I sign up... I don’t think it’s cruel watching young players develop. It gives you hope for greatness whether it happens or not... better than the alternative of making the playoffs and knowing this team has no chance... not only against Warriors or Rockets, but they can’t even win 1 game against Pelicans?! Pathetic

 

[santeesioux]

It's worked for Boston and Philly.

Those cities also have the benefit of being places free agents would actually want to go to after the rebuild looks like it's working, we don't.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Bear in mind that our current GM took Zach and Caleb over Donovan Mitchell and either Kyle Kuzma or Jordan Bell. And yes, he's not the only one, but it's still a fuck-up. (And I say that as someone who thinks Zach is going to be good.)

 

[KingSpeed]

It's worked for Boston and Philly.

Boston didn't miss playoffs for 4-5 years.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

What are the odds of our current team improving?

Around the same. Fans (by and large, not this forum specifically) like to root for teams that get to the playoffs even if they can't get passed the 2nd round.

 

[BlazerBeav]

It's easy to say yes, because I want to win a championship instead of just being 'good' every year - but there is no way I could sit through 4-5 seasons of straight trash (and Philly fans couldn't either - that arena was a morgue).

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Worst case scenario: the Suns/Kings of the past couple of years. That would be tough. Nets don't count because they unloaded all their high picks.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Those cities also have the benefit of being places free agents would actually want to go to after the rebuild looks like it's working, we don't.

Free agents want to win. They will go to any city if they think there is a strong chance at a championship.

 

[santeesioux]

Free agents want to win. They will go to any city if they think there is a strong chance at a championship.

We'd have to get a gm like Chauncy Billups then that could maybe actually convince decent players to come here.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Boston didn't miss playoffs for 4-5 years.

Would love to hear the dogs explanation on this

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

You have to scout ahead in high school and even middle school. Tanking at the wrong time would really suck

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Yes, I’m 23. I can wait... now for the older folk... sorry not sorry?

 

[tykendo]

Just don't think it's needed, and would be a foolhearty plan. The draft is not a guaranty to land this franchise those perfect pieces. People are impatient now. You think they're willing to wait possibly 14, 15 years to get lucky with the right guys? There are some nice pieces in place already. Some key additions, development of existing young talent, and maturity are all that is needed to get this team to continue in the right direction.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Would love to hear the dogs explanation on this

Great coach and GM. Able to trade high draft picks for more high draft picks while being very smart with trades and free agent signings.

A very well run franchise.

Philly just sucked as much as they could and kept throwing darts at the draft dartboard in hopes of hitting the bullseye.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Not only would I approve, I advocated this very approach when LaMarcus left.

My worry was that they'd spend a lot of money on middling talent to surround Damian and reach a "good but not great" ceiling and get stuck. Never in my wildest dreams did I think Olshey would be so foolish with contracts -- Like, wow!

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Not only would I approve, I advocated this very approach when LaMarcus left.

My worry was that they'd spend a lot of money on middling talent to surround Damian and reach a "good but not great" ceiling and get stuck. Never in my wildest dreams did I think Olshey would be so foolish with contracts -- Like, wow!

Olshey honeydicked us with good contracts like RoLo, Ed, and Aminu.

 

[KingSpeed]

Someone here said they'd rather be the Kings. But Kings don't know how to draft. If they did, they'd be starting Dame/Curry/Mitchell/Kawhi/Cousins and with a decent coach, they'd be champs.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Olshey honeydicked us with good contracts like RoLo, Ed, and Aminu.

Yeah, I didn't think he'd go full retard with Turner and MeyLe, but boy did he surprise me.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Great coach and GM. Able to trade high draft picks for more high draft picks while being very smart with trades and free agent signings.

A very well run franchise.

Philly just sucked as much as they could and kept throwing darts at the draft dartboard in hopes of hitting the bullseye.

Two very different approaches. Which one are you advocating? Sounds like the latter in your first post. But then you bring up the former as to try to validate a similar approach when they aren't similar at all?. The latter has that low probability of working. The first can't be pulled off without the proper team. BOS never tanked for top 5 draft picks. If you would have said the BOS method the first time I would be more on board with trying that.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Tank and trade the picks after the first two years.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Two very different approaches. Which one are you advocating? Sounds like the latter in your first post. But then you bring up the former as to try to validate a similar approach when they aren't similar at all?. The latter has that low probability of working. The first can't be pulled off without the proper team. BOS never tanked for top 5 draft picks. If you would have said the BOS method the first time I would be more on board with trying that.

I clearly said Philly in my OP. I added Boston because once they got some high draft picks they have continued to turn them into more high draft picks while completely retooling their roster multiple years in a row. I would love it if we could do it the Boston way but I don't see that happening. Paul Allen loves the draft too much to trade a high pick for future high picks. He's a dartboard guy always looking for the bullseye.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

I clearly said Philly in my OP. I added Boston because once they got some high draft picks they have continued to turn them into more high draft picks while completely retooling their roster multiple years in a row. I would love it if we could do it the Boston way but I don't see that happening. Paul Allen loves the draft too much to trade a high pick for future high picks. He's a dartboard guy always looking for the bullseye.

Yes, I would love to be able to do that BOS approach. But once again it is a an entirely different plan. And even then what has it really produced? Nothing in the grand-scheme of things yet. People on here would just be bitching we can't get over the hump and lose every year in the WCF's. You can't satisfy fans without a title. It IS all or nothing with them. Only one team wins each year and usually the team that wins has won before in the last 5 years. We all will be lucky to get 1 more title before we die. Sad fact.