Crabbe's best game?

[H.C.]

You don't seem to understand the definition of consistent. Crabbe is the exact opposite of consistent. In lingo you'll understand, he's feast or famine. It is games like the 5-5 and 8-10 that are mentioned in this thread, that keep his 3FG% high in spite of many 1-4, 0-4, 1-5 and 1-6 games.

Here's Crabbe's 3FG shooting in his last 15 games:

1-4
1-6
2-4
4-8
1-4
1-5
3-3
2-4
4-8
0-4
3-5
2-6
1-3
0-2
8-10

Does that look consistent to you? The league average 3FG% is .358. In those 15 games, Crabbe had 8 games that were 3FG% of .333 or less and 7 games that were .500 or better and ZERO games between .333 and .500. So, eight shitty games and seven great games and nothing in between. If that's not the definition of feast or famine, I don't know what is. Yet, his 3FG% for those 15 games is .434. It's only a 15 game sample size, but very representative of Crabbe's season as a whole.

Simply out, Crabbe is a streaky shooter. When he's hot, like he was tonight, he's fucking great. When he's not hot, well let's just say, not so great.

BNM

Trivia for you BNM, without looking it up do you know who this player is?
Not trying to detract from your post, because I like & agree with it.
Click the spoiler to find out who it is.

Spoiler

jj redick

2-6
2-8
3-7
2-5
1-2
1-5
1-2
2-5
1-2
2-8
1-4
2-5
4-6
2-4
3-6
4-5
1-5
2-4
7-11
3-6
4-6
5-8

 

[Mr. Robot]

this Allen Crabbe is tradable, although Im not sure I would do it
if necessary, yes, but I prefer keeping him, first ship out Leonard and Turner

 

[Mediocre Man]

So: Crabbe had quite the game last night, didn't he? 12-15 including 5-5 from 3. Is he coming around?

3rd in the NBA in 3pt %

What more does a role player have to do to come around?

 

[stampedehero]

You don't seem to understand the definition of consistent. Crabbe is the exact opposite of consistent. In lingo you'll understand, he's feast or famine. It is games like the 5-5 and 8-10 that are mentioned in this thread, that keep his 3FG% high in spite of many 1-4, 0-4, 1-5 and 1-6 games.

Here's Crabbe's 3FG shooting in his last 15 games:

1-4
1-6
2-4
4-8
1-4
1-5
3-3
2-4
4-8
0-4
3-5
2-6
1-3
0-2
8-10

Does that look consistent to you? The league average 3FG% is .358. In those 15 games, Crabbe had 8 games that were 3FG% of .333 or less and 7 games that were .500 or better and ZERO games between .333 and .500. So, eight shitty games and seven great games and nothing in between. If that's not the definition of feast or famine, I don't know what is. Yet, his 3FG% for those 15 games is .434. It's only a 15 game sample size, but very representative of Crabbe's season as a whole.

Simply out, Crabbe is a streaky shooter. When he's hot, like he was tonight, he's fucking great. When he's not hot, well let's just say, not so great.

BNM

More Minutes for him for consistency?.

 

[HailBlazers]

3rd in the NBA in 3pt %

What more does a role player have to do to come around?

Apparently take a pay cut.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Trivia for you BNM, without looking it up do you know who this player is?
Not trying to detract from your post, because I like & agree with it.
Click the spoiler to find out who it is.

Spoiler

jj redick

2-6
2-8
3-7
2-5
1-2
1-5
1-2
2-5
1-2
2-8
1-4
2-5
4-6
2-4
3-6
4-5
1-5
2-4
7-11
3-6
4-6
5-8

That is wayyyyy better than Crabbe. There are a few 1-5s sprinkled in but still way better

 

[gatorpops]

Dame and CJ need to be looking for him more (as they did last night, Dame especially). Dame is trying to get better at giving up his game and get others involved.

 

[Boob-No-More]

That is wayyyyy better than Crabbe. There are a few 1-5s sprinkled in but still way better

Yep. Much less feast or famine. Several games in the ~.400 range. Crabbe's overall percentage is slightly better, but he's either on or off. Last night, fortunately, he was on.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

More Minutes for him for consistency?.

He plays 28.5 MPG, that's practically starter's minutes. Lack of PT doesn't hurt his consistency. He has the most well defined role, and most consistent minutes, of anyone on the team - stand at the 3-point line and knock down open shots. He's only played less than 20 minutes 3 times all year and never less than 17:42. Stotts doesn't yank him when he's missing shots. He knows when he's going to go into the game and he knows what he's supposed to do.

BNM

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Based on ratings, we possibly have a bigger viewing audience than CNN so maybe they should be put here.

Of course, we're more famous than Travis Outlaw

 

[H.C.]

That is wayyyyy better than Crabbe. There are a few 1-5s sprinkled in but still way better

Yep. Much less feast or famine. Several games in the ~.400 range. Crabbe's overall percentage is slightly better, but he's either on or off. Last night, fortunately, he was on.

BNM

I'm not so sure it's way better than Crabbe until the 16th of march. After that he went on a consistent tear.
CP3 came back the 24th of Feb.

But Redick does more than just shoot 3's. Where Crabbe although he has the ability to do more, he doesn't very often.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I'm not so sure it's way better than Crabbe until the 16th of march. After that he went on a consistent tear.
CP3 came back the 24th of Feb.

But Redick does more than just shoot 3's. Where Crabbe although he has the ability to do more, he doesn't very often.

I didn't even click the spoiler tag until after my post. Just comparing lists it was obviously better.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I'm not so sure it's way better than Crabbe until the 16th of march. After that he went on a consistent tear.
CP3 came back the 24th of Feb.

But Redick does more than just shoot 3's. Where Crabbe although he has the ability to do more, he doesn't very often.

It will be interesting to see what kind of offers Redick gets this summer. Sure, he has the benefit of playing with CP3, but for the last three years, he's been a starter on a 50+ win team. He averages 50% more ppg than Crabbe while playing similar minutes. He's better than Crabbe and has been doing it for longer. This will be his 3rd year in a row with 3FG% above .430, including leading the league last year at .475. After one year at .393 3FG%, Crabbe got $18.5 million a year. But, age will hurt Redick. He's pushing 33 and is almost 9 years older than Crabbe.

BNM

 

[H.C.]

It will be interesting to see what kind of offers Redick gets this summer. Sure, he has the benefit of playing with CP3, but for the last three years, he's been a starter on a 50+ win team. He averages 50% more ppg than Crabbe while playing similar minutes. He's better than Crabbe and has been doing it for longer. This will be his 3rd year in a row with 3FG% above .430, including leading the league last year at .475. After one year at .393 3FG%, Crabbe got $18.5 million a year. But, age will hurt Redick. He's pushing 33 and is almost 9 years older than Crabbe.

BNM

Clippers aren't winning a ring with Griffin, so I guess Redick's payday is going to be determined by his desire to chase a ring.
Contenders will go out of their way to sign a player like Redick if he's willing to take less $$.

I agree with you Redick has benefited from CP3. But he's also benefited from Howard & DJ setting giant screens for him.
I don't think it's a coincidence he shot a career low 36% from three the year after Howard left Orlando. Granted he was traded, and shot better in Orlando than he did with the Bucks. But the difference between a contested look and an open look for players like Redick is a screen.
I'd find it comical if the Nets maxed Redick this off season.

 

[BigGameDamian]

It puts me in mind of the legend of Tony Buckets:

Defense was more hardcore back then.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Defense was more hardcore back then.

"White Chocolate" had no defense outside of the occasional steal. 75% of those points Delk scored where against Jason Williams.

 

[Chris Craig]

He scored 10 points in 48 seconds last night, haters better shut it

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Yep. Much less feast or famine. Several games in the ~.400 range. Crabbe's overall percentage is slightly better, but he's either on or off. Last night, fortunately, he was on.

BNM

But remember, the correlation between Allen Crabbe and our success isn't makes nearly as much as it's takes. Who cares if he's streaky? If he's shooting at all, that means our offense is working as designed.

 

[Boob-No-More]

It puts me in mind of the legend of Tony Buckets:

How so? Crabbe scored 25 points on 8-10 3FG without making a single 2-pointer (0-2). In Delk's 53-point game he didn't make a single 3-pointer (0-1). If you watch the video, you'll see he did all his scoring on drives and short to mid range jumpers. The two games could not be more different.

Edit: Oops my bad. I just realized BGD was quoting a post that is nearly 3 month old. Still Crabbe was 5-5 from 3-point range in that game, compared to Delk's zero made 3-pointers in his 53-point game.

BNM

 

[Minstrel]

How so? Crabbe scored 25 points on 8-10 3FG without making a single 2-pointer (0-2). In Delk's 53-point game he didn't make a single 3-pointer (0-1). If you watch the video, you'll see he did all his scoring on drives and short to mid range jumpers. The two games could not be more different.

It wasn't a comparison of how they scored, it was a comparison of out-of-nowhere explosions that signified nothing.

 

[Boob-No-More]

It wasn't a comparison of how they scored, it was a comparison of out-of-nowhere explosions that signified nothing.

In that case, the Martell Webster 24-point 3rd quarter against UTA, as mentioned in the game thread last night, definitely applies.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

He scored 10 points in 48 seconds last night, haters better shut it

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Yeah, but he's still no Martell Webster. Webster scored 24 points in a quarter. Crabbe had a measly 13 in the 4th quarter last night.

BNM

 

[Chris Craig]

Yeah, but he's still no Martell Webster. Webster scored 24 points in a quarter. Crabbe had a measly 13 in the 4th quarter last night.

BNM

There will be several of those kind of nights for Crabbe

 

[Scalma]

Imagine a player on your team going off, and your first instinct is to come on a message board and double down on your hot takes and cherry picked stats.

Crabbe is an elite shooter. Get over it. Enjoy it. Appreciate it.

 

[riverman]

One of the differences in low keyed AC's success last night is that Dame made a point to get him the ball instead of chuck 3's on a cold shooting night....not so long ago Dame and CJ would chuck quite a bit even if they were cold....AC didn't get touches and is too shy to demand the ball..Dame's assists are up and his rebounds...he's defensively trying to become a well rounded player who can still go off for 30 anytime

 

[Boob-No-More]

But remember, the correlation between Allen Crabbe and our success isn't makes nearly as much as it's takes. Who cares if he's streaky? If he's shooting at all, that means our offense is working as designed.

Correlation or coincidence? You can make the same correlation for games in which Meyers has at least 9 FGA. In those games we're 6-3. If only we let Meyers shoot more, we'd be on track to win 55 games.

BNM

 

[riverman]

Crabbe's mentor was Nic Batum....dazzle you and then disappear...never knew which guy would show up

 

[Boob-No-More]

There will be several of those kind of nights for Crabbe

We thought the same thing about Webster at the time...

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

Imagine a player on your team going off, and your first instinct is to come on a message board and double down on your hot takes and cherry picked stats.

Crabbe is an elite shooter. Get over it. Enjoy it. Appreciate it.

Who would you rather keep and build around long term, Crabbe or Nurkic. Think you can keep both, plus Dame and C.J.? Do the math.

I'm all for Crabbe having nights like he did last night. It increases his trade value to the point where we might not need to pay someone to take his contract off our hands.

BNM

 

[BBert]

Who would you rather keep and build around long term, Crabbe or Nurkic. Think you can keep both, plus Dame and C.J.? Do the math.

I'm all for Crabbe having nights like he did last night. It increases his trade value to the point where we might not need to pay someone to take his contract off our hands.

BNM

Yeah, who could we use from Minny?