Crabbe's best game?

[Boob-No-More]

Yeah, who could we use from Minny?

As much as I would hate to have Ricky Rubio as our starting PG, I'd take him as a back up. Unfortunately, a Crabbe for Rubio swap would only save us about $5 million a year. Plus, Crabbe off the bench fir them, at his salary, would create the same problem for them when Wiggins, Towns and LaVine are due for their contract extensions.

BNM

 

[H.C.]

If Minn would take Turner for Rubio I'd do it in a second, and I really like Turner's game.
But I suppose it depends how high they are on Muhammed. Or what kind of contract he receives this off-season.
Rumor was around the deadline they were trying to package Muhammed with Rubio in trades.
Maybe Muhammed isn't a Thibbs kind of player.
Not sure if I want to read this forum if Portland were to trade Crabbe for a non-shooter like Rubio...

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Correlation or coincidence? You can make the same correlation for games in which Meyers has at least 9 FGA. In those games we're 6-3. If only we let Meyers shoot more, we'd be on track to win 55 games.

BNM

If Crabbe shoots his average (8+ FGA) we're 32-16. That's a bit more than coincidence, no?

 

[BonesJones]

If Crabbe shoots his average (8+ FGA) we're 32-16. That's a bit more than coincidence, no?

If a team allows a good shooter to get eight open looks a game they're going to do bad. If a team doesn't give that player open looks they do better. That's just common sense.

It's not like Crabbe can create his own and the problem is that he's not getting enough touches. All his shots are out of the offense and are with the defense gives him. So if the defense let's him get looks at the basket, of course we're gonna do better.

 

[Boob-No-More]

If Crabbe shoots his average (8+ FGA) we're 32-16. That's a bit more than coincidence, no?

OK, your're right, it's not a coincidence. The true correlation is Crabbe gets more shots and we win at a higher percentage when we play against bad teams. Of those 32 wins we have when Crabbe attempts at least 8 FGs, 21 of them are against teams with losing records.

Of the 22 losses we have when Crabbe attempts fewer than 8 FG, 14 of them are against teams with winning records - good teams that don't leave players wide open at the 3-point line.

So yeah, not a coincidence. Crabbe gets more open looks and we win more against bad teams than good teams. You even stated our record when Crabbe gets 8 or more FGA is independent of how many he makes. Our record in those games is not about Allen Crabbe, it's about the quality of the competition.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

Yeah, who could we use from Minny?

I'd also take Cole Aldrich. He gave MIN a big discount to play for his hometown team, and now he barely plays. He went from a solid back up center on a 53-win team to being out of the rotation on a 31 win team. The good news is he's cheap and locked up for 3 more years. Losing Nurk showed us how much we need another big body. I'd still prefer Kyle O'Quinn, because he's younger than Aldrich and can also play PF, but until this year, Aldrich had four straight seasons as an elite rebounder and rim protector off the bench. He's not Nurk, but he'd be a good, cheap back up that would give us the size and toughness we lack when Nurk isn't on the court.

BNM

 

[Scalma]

Who would you rather keep and build around long term, Crabbe or Nurkic. Think you can keep both, plus Dame and C.J.? Do the math.

I'm all for Crabbe having nights like he did last night. It increases his trade value to the point where we might not need to pay someone to take his contract off our hands.

BNM

did math. Checks out.

 

[Scalma]

And I'm trading CJ before Crabbe.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

OK, your're right, it's not a coincidence. The true correlation is Crabbe gets more shots and we win at a higher percentage when we play against bad teams. Of those 32 wins we have when Crabbe attempts at least 8 FGs, 21 of them are against teams with losing records.

Of the 22 losses we have when Crabbe attempts fewer than 8 FG, 14 of them are against teams with winning records - good teams that don't leave players wide open at the 3-point line.

So yeah, not a coincidence. Crabbe gets more open looks and we win more against bad teams than good teams. You even stated our record when Crabbe gets 8 or more FGA is independent of how many he makes. Our record in those games is not about Allen Crabbe, it's about the quality of the competition.

BNM

Since we had a horrible record most of the season, how many teams had a better record than us at the time?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

And I'm trading CJ before Crabbe.

This post tells me you need to stop drinking.

 

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

Last night reminded me of the glory days of the Stampede. The Crabbe dominance, the epic game threads.........sigh...

 

[Boob-No-More]

And I'm trading CJ before Crabbe.

Wow, ok. In one fell swoop all pretense of rational discussion has vanished.

Seriously, that's your master plan - to break up our Big 3 after 20 games together so we can afford to continue to overpay Allen Crabbe? The 15-5 record, vastly improved defense and improved offensive efficiency weren't good enough for you?

Really? Well, you're definitely a forward thinker, already planning ahead to the 2018 lottery. I'll throw this out there - any team with Allen Crabbe as a starter will be a lottery team. Any team with four players better than Crabbe won't be able to afford to keep him.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

Since we had a horrible record most of the season, how many teams had a better record than us at the time?

I'm not going to go back and look at the standings on every day of the season to figure that out, especially since I'm not sure why it matters. Those teams are bad because the rest of the league was beating them. It's not like they were only bad against us. Good teams just don't give a player 8 wide open looks, and we know that the only time Crabbe shoots is when he's open (that's not a bad thing, at least he knows his limits).

BNM

 

[Hobbesarable]

And I'm trading CJ before Crabbe.

Suz Tzu Art of War Tactic

Disarm your opponent by saying something so ridiculous that it will you render your opponent dazed.

 

[Scalma]

Wow, ok. In one fell swoop all pretense of rational discussion has vanished.

Seriously, that's your master plan - to break up our Big 3 after 20 games together so we can afford to continue to overpay Allen Crabbe? The 15-5 record, vastly improved defense and improved offensive efficiency weren't good enough for you?

Really? Well, you're definitely a forward thinker, already planning ahead to the 2018 lottery. I'll throw this out there - any team with Allen Crabbe as a starter will be a lottery team. Any team with four players better than Crabbe won't be able to afford to keep him.

BNM

Who said I think we need to trade one? You said that. Not me.

I'm saying if it came down to it, I'd rather trade the guy that can bring a star back