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And for the PER lovers out there, he has a career 17.3 PER.
 
Ridnour's contract will again take away 4mil of our capspace this summer. I just want picks or expiring contracts.
 
Randolph is stupid, plays PF, and is up for a new contract. I don't see any room for him here.
 
They only have one exp. deal (Toliver) -- Beasley makes no sense.
 
B-Roy said:
Randolph is stupid, plays PF, and is up for a new contract. I don't see any room for him here.
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I see plenty of room for him here. I'll take a chance on a player with his potential every single day of the week.
 
RoyToy said:
I see plenty of room for him here. I'll take a chance on a player with his potential every single day of the week.
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Backup PF? What will you offer him on his new contract? Would he stay without many minutes?
 
Great guess we are getting melo for Felton, crawful and Wallace. :P
 
from the games ive watched, rubio and ABo have pretty good chemistry, rubio is feeding him in on a platter
 
B-Roy said:
Backup PF? What will you offer him on his new contract? Would he stay without many minutes?
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Why wouldn't he get any minutues? Do the Blazers have a plethora of great frontcourt players or something? I'd play him over Camby and Joel easily, or at least severely cut into Camby's minutes.

Randolph is a borderline elite rebounder. He averaged 20/10 in 3 games as a starter last year in <30 min a game. He averaged 15/6 in the month of March last year in 24min a game at 21.

I'll acquire young talents like that for an expiring player like Crawford every single day of the week.
 
pekovic please please please

like gwall and craw for beas and pekovic? then we renounce beas this offseason
 
RoyToy said:
He's only 22.
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It's ironic, he's labeled dumb at 22, gets no chance in Minny who is loaded at PF, has show some talent and potential, and many here don't want to give him a low risk chance (shakes head). The only way this Blazer team has a chance to get better is to take some low risk/high reward chances. I'd say a definite no to a guy like Beasley but a yes to a guy like Randolph
 
RoyToy said:
Why wouldn't he get any minutues? Do the Blazers have a plethora of great frontcourt players or something? I'd play him over Camby and Joel easily, or at least severely cut into Camby's minutes.

Randolph is a borderline elite rebounder. He averaged 20/10 in 3 games as a starter last year in <30 min a game. He averaged 15/6 in the month of March last year in 24min a game at 21.

I'll acquire talents like that for an expiring player like Crawford every single day of the week.
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Randolph is not a center and he doesn't play like one. You're asking to get killed on defense.

He's also a chucker (!) and a headcase.

But let's say we do acquire him and he plays reasonably well. He's going to have a lot of suitors in free agency.

I'd much rather ask for Utah or Memphis's 1st round pick.
 
Beasley's PER has dropped every year since his rookie year. If he can't get his shit together under Adelman he wont under McMillan.
 
Blazinaway said:
It's ironic, he's labeled dumb at 22, gets no chance in Minny who is loaded at PF, has show some talent and potential, and many here don't want to give him a low risk chance (shales head). The only way this Blazer team has a chance to get better is to take some low risk/high reward chances. I'd say a definite no to a guy like Beasley but a yes to a guy like Randolph
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Yeah I'm not sure where the negative feelings are coming from here, especially since this forum seems to hate Crawford.... who the Blazers would be giving up.

This team needs an infusion of young talent. Randolph seems to fit that criteria. Pretty young with a very high ceiling.
 
Blazinaway said:
It's ironic, he's labeled dumb at 22, gets no chance in Minny who is loaded at PF, has show some talent and potential, and many here don't want to give him a low risk chance (shakes head). The only way this Blazer team has a chance to get better is to take some low risk/high reward chances. I'd say a definite no to a guy like Beasley but a yes to a guy like Randolph
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He was passed over by three teams already (Minny has given up on him) in his 4 year career. Does that not say something about him?

Sure if you had a chance to get him for free then go ahead, I'm all for it. But if we're going to trade Crawford to Minnesota I'd much rather ask for some of the more liquid assets. (picks)
 
B-Roy said:
Randolph is not a center and he doesn't play like one. You're asking to get killed on defense.

He's also a chucker (!) and a headcase.

But let's say we do acquire him and he plays reasonably well. He's going to have a lot of suitors in free agency.

I'd much rather ask for Utah or Memphis's 1st round pick.
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He doesn't necessarily have to play all his minutes at center. I'd start with bringing him off the bench and go from there, let him play and see what the best combination of players is.

He's a chukcer that's been shooting 50% the past two seasons (well, at least since going to Minnesota). He averaged 12/5 in 20min a game after the all-star break last season (23 games) while shooting 50%. Only 21. I like that.

He may or may not have been a brat in the past, but that isn't totally unexpected in a very young player. He's still only 22 and imo very much worth the risk of an expiring contract in Crawford.

Minnesota or Utah's first pick? I'm sure the Blazers' non-existent GM would make good use of that pick.
 
RoyToy said:
He doesn't necessarily have to play all his minutes at center. I'd start with bringing him off the bench and go from there, let him play and see what the best combination of players is.

He's a chukcer that's been shooting 50% the past two seasons (well, at least since going to Minnesota). He averaged 12/5 in 20min a game after the all-star break last season (23 games) while shooting 50%. Only 21. I like that.
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Career TS% of 51%. Not that great, especially for a big.

Minnesota or Utah's first pick? I'm sure the Blazers' non-existent GM would make good use of that pick.
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This is a valid criticism....

But you act as if Randolph would do well under Nate. I say it's more likely the idiot front office lucks into a good pick than McMillan actually giving Randolph a chance.
 
B-Roy said:
Career TS% of 51%. Not that great, especially for a big.


This is a valid criticism....

But you act as if Randolph would do well under Nate. I say it's more likely the idiot front office lucks into a good pick than McMillan actually giving Randolph a chance.
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His FG% the past two years with Minnesota is right at 50%. I'll take that.

I'm not saying he would without a doubt come here and blossom. I'm just saying it's worth the risk of losing Crawford, a guy who won't be here next year and take a chance on a young player with a high ceiling.

At some point Randolph will put it together and make a team very happy.
 
I'd rather take a no-risk flier on someone like Randolph (who has upside based on tools, age and performance in limited minutes) than stick with a guy in Crawford who's only decent and won't be part of the next excellent Blazers team (whenever that might be).

I don't believe in tanking, but trading superfluous veterans for players who have at least a sliver of a chance of breaking out? Sure. I noted that with Aldridge in the fold and playing like a star and the possibility of Batum being in the process of breaking out, if you can get a solid (not star) point guard and center, you're a lucky break from a contender (that lucky break being finding another star player). Randolph could be that lucky break. Probably not, of course, but doesn't hurt to see, IMO. If Randolph does pan out, you can make room. He could play small forward with Batum at shooting guard, or he could play power forward with Aldridge at center. It would be a "good problem" to have.

Again, not saying it's likely that Randolph will finally bust out into a star with Portland, but I think there's a non-trivial chance.
 
Minstrel said:
I'd rather take a no-risk flier on someone like Randolph (who has upside based on tools, age and performance in limited minutes) than stick with a guy in Crawford who's only decent and won't be part of the next excellent Blazers team (whenever that might be).

Again, not saying it's likely that Randolph will finally bust out into a star with Portland, but I think there's a non-trivial chance.
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I'd much rather a pick. Don't see why you'd rather want someone passed over by 3 teams and 4 coaches already.
 
MickZagger said:
What do you see that several coaches haven't?
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I don't think there's many people that have questioned his potential.

But being a brat doesn't help you get playing time, either.

At 22 there's still a lot of hope he can mature into a pretty good player. The productivity has certainly been there.
 
B-Roy said:
I'd much rather a pick. Don't see why you'd rather want someone passed over by 3 teams and 4 coaches already.
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How many teams passed on Billups?

Or Linsanity?

Teams move on from players all the time, only for that player to blossom in a different situation.
 
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