Creating a sense of urgency

[Blazer4ever]

I feel like we could be 5 wins better if we played stronger. So I decide to call out the team, this roster can make the playoffs in the west even after the slow start. Lets do it

 

[Strenuus]

You show them!

 

[jlprk]

So I decide to call out the team

Will you call a team meeting?

 

[Haakzilla]

Will you call a team meeting?

...posters only!

 

[Nikolokolus]

Aside from adequate talent, this is clearly the missing ingredient. I fully expect a 10 game winning streak now.

 

[Blazinaway]

I feel like we could be 5 wins better if we played stronger. So I decide to call out the team, this roster can make the playoffs in the west even after the slow start. Lets do it

I prefer a top 5 pick vs a small chance of making the playoffs and losing 1st rd and on our way to being a treadmill team

 

[Blazer4ever]

Who told you we wouldn't bust that pick or that we wouldn't get better value at 18th. There are some players on the team you wouldn't trade for a top 5 pick and if that's important for you you would

 

[Blazer4ever]

A full roster, on our top strength and if we win some of the games we just give away, we're worth a chance at the playoffs. if we aren't we aren't but no thanks on the tanking

 

[Blazinaway]

Who told you we wouldn't bust that pick or that we wouldn't get better value at 18th. There are some players on the team you wouldn't trade for a top 5 pick and if that's important for you you would

first of all if we pick 18 we lose our pick, secondly for this team to have a chance to be a contender we have to have some luck, like either a top pick 5 pick becoming a player like Lillard or lucking into the top pick (Ben Simmons). Thats my opinion and if we make the playoffs we lose our pick and those draft "chances" evaporate, this is a "nothing" year so lets develop players and get a top 5 pick. There are no guarantees of anything, but I want the "chance" to get a potentially very good player in the draft vs nothing if we make the playoffs which IMO is a pipe dream

 

[blue9]

first of all if we pick 18 we lose our pick, secondly for this team to have a chance to be a contender we have to have some luck, like either a top pick 5 pick becoming a player like Lillard or lucking into the top pick (Ben Simmons). Thats my opinion and if we make the playoffs we lose our pick and those draft "chances" evaporate, this is a "nothing" year so lets develop players and get a top 5 pick. There are no guarantees of anything, but I want the "chance" to get a potentially very good player in the draft vs nothing if we make the playoffs which IMO is a pipe dream

Speaking of "guarantees": In a world without absolute guarantees, we're guaranteed to suck for quite a while longer if we lose our draft pick this year.

 

[BBert]

I find it interesting when people act as if a top 5 pick is worthless, because we'd just pick a bust anyway.

 

[Strenuus]

Who told you we wouldn't bust that pick or that we wouldn't get better value at 18th. There are some players on the team you wouldn't trade for a top 5 pick and if that's important for you you would

I'd trade CJ for a top 5 pick.

 

[Blazer4ever]

I'd trade CJ for a top 5 pick.

Trade Damian for the #1 pick then draft Oden

 

[Blazer4ever]

You're going to throw the season for a pick you'd bust on the pick, it's pure basketball karma

 

[Strenuus]

You're going to throw the season for a pick you'd bust on the pick, it's pure basketball karma

Spurs threw the season when they got Duncan.... God, horrible karma.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Spurs threw the season when they got Duncan.... God, horrible karma.

Ive thought alot about this.

This happened 20 years ago and many many MANY things have changed since then. I don't know if tanking is as relevant anymore. Other than Duncan, does anyone know of a team that has actively tanked and it paid off? We know Minni and Phili are fails so far.

 

[BBert]

Tanking was a better bet back when the No. 1 and No. 2 picks were decided by a coin flip.

Then there is the fact that even with the No. 1 pick, the GM/Owner has to be not a dumb ass.

 

[blue9]

Then there is the fact that even with the No. 1 pick, the GM/Owner has to be not a dumb ass.

Which is why PHI, MIN and pre-Balmer LAC never succeeded.

 

[julius]

This is a playoff team?? Did the team drop down to the NBDL or something?

 

[tlongII]

 

[Sinobas]

Aside from adequate talent, this is clearly the missing ingredient. I fully expect a 10 game winning streak now.

I think they'll win 10 games in their next game.

 

[H.C.]

Spurs threw the season when they got Duncan.... God, horrible karma.

Not sure this qualifies as intentional tanking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Robinson_(basketball)

Early in the 1997 season, Robinson's dreams of becoming a champion seemed to vanish when he hurt his back in the preseason. He finally returned in December, but six games later broke his foot in a home game against the Miami Heat, and ended up missing the rest of the regular season. As a result of the injury to Robinson and other key players (most notably Sean Elliott, who missed more than half the season), the Spurs finished the season with a dismal 20–62 record. However, his injury proved to be a blessing in disguise. Despite having only the third-worst record in the league, the Spurs won the NBA Draft Lottery—and with it, the first pick in the next year's NBA draft. They used that pick to select Tim Duncan out of Wake Forest University, who was, after a few years, the final key to Robinson's quest for an NBA title

 

[TBpup]

Which is why PHI, MIN and pre-Balmer LAC never succeeded.

Part of it depends on the franchise and how they are run. Philly is so bad, the league has stepped in and had Jerry Colangelo take over. Minnesota has been bad since inception as were the Clippers pre-Balmer. Of course there are cycles but does anyone thing that if a top Draft pick when to SA that they wouldn't succeed even as the geriatrics retired?

Portland isn't run as well as SA but much better than Philly etc. All they have to do to make this work is let D69 make the pick for them.

 

[Rhal]

I'm of the mind that this season is all about developing the young talent on our team and seeing what we have. If we make the playoffs while doing that then awesome, if we suck and keep our pick then awesome as well. The only scenario I see that has me slightly annoyed is if we are decent but not great and end up with the 13/14th pick.

 

[KingSpeed]

I feel like we could be 5 wins better if we played stronger. So I decide to call out the team, this roster can make the playoffs in the west even after the slow start. Lets do it

We can definitely do it. As I said in an earlier thread, we have a massive Homestand (12 of 14) coming up and that could get us back in the race. Go Blazers!

 

[KingSpeed]

Ive thought alot about this.

This happened 20 years ago and many many MANY things have changed since then. I don't know if tanking is as relevant anymore. Other than Duncan, does anyone know of a team that has actively tanked and it paid off? We know Minni and Phili are fails so far.

Cleveland. 2002-03 season. They wanted LeBron and they got him.