Curry Passes Physical, Joins NYK

[Bleed Green]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/4972290

CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) - Eddy Curry officially joined the New York Knicks on Friday after a team of doctors hired by the team cleared him to play.

The 22-year-old forward spent the past several days since being traded from Chicago to New York going through a battery of heart tests. He missed the final 13 games of last season and the playoffs after being diagnosed with an irregular heartbeat.
Curry, who spent his first four NBA seasons with the Bulls, took the court Friday evening to practice with the Knicks at the College of Charleston after the NBA reviewed the test results.

I was praying for him to pass. I really want Curry on the knicks. A healthy Curry can be a force in the east. Although everyone doubts him, I think behind Aguirre and LB he can. No its Curry time to learn the knicks plays, gamestyle,etc.

 

[Iguodala]

Great News

 

[Shapecity]

First few looks at Curry in training camp.

 

[Mr. J]

Thanks for the news, Skillz and thanks for the pics, Shape. It's nice to see Curry is finally a Knick and he;s getting busy downlow - that's why we got him!

 

[Ming637]

That's good news to hear about Eddy Curry that he'll be playing this season.

 

[Tribute to H2O]

Well this sucks. Oh well. Farewell salary space, draft picks, and rebounding. Welcome lazy chump with nice hefty contract and heart problems to boot.


Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">Well this sucks. Oh well. Farewell salary space, draft picks, and rebounding. Welcome lazy chump with nice hefty contract and heart problems to boot.</div>
What's so bad about that? Curry isn't too bad and can be a monster especially with Aguirre and Brown working with him. Also, Sweetney would have more than likely left us this summer so at least we get something out of this: a 22-year-old center who has a refined post game and is dripping with potential. If we keep Antonio Davis - which will probably happen - the trade becomes even better. Davis as we know is better than Thomas. Curry and Sweetney are bout equal and we really don't need the picks that much; we're already young enough with Frye, Lee, Robinson, Ariza, Curry, Crawford, Richardson, and Butler. If worse comes to worse, I think the pick is lottery protected so we'll be fine. We just lost two second rounders and a first. Davis and Penny are expiring next year so little by little I think we'll be shedding cap space. The year after that, Houston, Taylor, and Anderson are gone, too.

 

[Bleed Green]

I dont know why everyone is so down about Curry. It seems only me and MRJ like this cat. Main reason is that he's only 23 and is already averaging 15 for game. Everyone acts like he's a loser because he cant rebound but those are all problems that can be solved with practice with Aguirre. Im excited about curry since he's give's us a presence downlow. Hopefully, he can block shots and rebound.

 

[phunDamentalz]

ugh

This might just be the most boring roster outside of ATL or Toronto. The Garden deserves better. Larry will get them to overachieve but will anyone care? They will still be a boring club that won't be able to compete at the miami/indiana level.

 

[Bleed Green]

BORING?? Are you crazy. This might be one of the most exciting teams in the NBA. Crawford, Marbury, Q-rich, Curry, Nate Robinson, Ariza, Lee, etc. Im definetely looking forward to the season. This team definetely has talent and its going 2 be an exciting season. Looking forward to see how N-rob is gonna dunk on.

 

[Tribute to H2O]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">What's so bad about that? Curry isn't too bad and can be a monster especially with Aguirre and Brown working with him. Also, Sweetney would have more than likely left us this summer so at least we get something out of this: a 22-year-old center who has a refined post game and is dripping with potential. If we keep Antonio Davis - which will probably happen - the trade becomes even better. Davis as we know is better than Thomas. Curry and Sweetney are bout equal and we really don't need the picks that much; we're already young enough with Frye, Lee, Robinson, Ariza, Curry, Crawford, Richardson, and Butler. If worse comes to worse, I think the pick is lottery protected so we'll be fine. We just lost two second rounders and a first. Davis and Penny are expiring next year so little by little I think we'll be shedding cap space. The year after that, Houston, Taylor, and Anderson are gone, too.</div>

More of this "Agguire and Brown working with him" stuff. There is nothing that suggests he'll want to work on his game. Why would he? He got paid already. The only reason he got himself into shape this past season was because it was the last year of his contract. Dampier did the same thing the season before got a ridiculous contract and was a big disappointment this season. By the way its kind of sad Curry couldnt average more than five rebounds per game in a contract year.

Havent you read the news? Larry Brown has just said he'll return Antonio Davis to Chicago. He's not staying. Not that it matters since Davis is going to get bought out but how do you figure Davis is better than Thomas??? Now you're just plain making stuff up to justify this bad deal! And you have said it yourself Curry and Sweetney are about equal. So what kind of sense does it make to trade for Curry when he may have serious issues? Nevermind the fact Sweetney would have been cheaper(by the way it's pretty hard for a player to leave when their a restricted free agent just thought you should know)and we would have been able to hang onto our expiring contract and draft picks. Isiah will probably trade Penny too if for no other reason than to do something since that jackass cant sit still for a few months without doing something stupid.


<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GotSkillz92:</div><div class="quote_post">I dont know why everyone is so down about Curry. It seems only me and MRJ like this cat. Main reason is that he's only 23 and is already averaging 15 for game. Everyone acts like he's a loser because he cant rebound but those are all problems that can be solved with practice with Aguirre. Im excited about curry since he's give's us a presence downlow. Hopefully, he can block shots and rebound.</div>

Curry has been in the league for four years now so its not too surprising he's averaging 15ppg. He cant rebound and he cant defend which is two things that a good center mustbe able to do. The reason why the trade was lousy is because Curry simply doesnt help all that much. Scoring wasnt really a problem. The Knicks biggest problem last season was defense. Curry doesnt play defense so he's no help in that regard. A bright spot for the Knicks was rebounding. We've traded away nearly all of our good rebounders. We wont get as many second chance opportunities as we got last season and we're going to probably give up alot of second chance points.

In the end Sweetney and Curry are pretty similiar players. The biggest difference is that Sweetney is far and away a better rebounder. Sweetney could end up being just as good as Curry in terms of scoring as well as a superior rebounder. When you throw in the fact that Curry may have serious heart issues, a questionable work ethic, and is more expensive then it starts looking like a bad deal. Then when you throw in the draft picks and expiring contract it starts to look even worse.


Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.

 

[Bleed Green]

Curry has been in the league for four years now so its not too surprising he's averaging 15ppg. He cant rebound and he cant defend which is two things that a good center mustbe able to do. The reason why the trade was lousy is because Curry simply doesnt help all that much. Scoring wasnt really a problem. The Knicks biggest problem last season was defense. Curry doesnt play defense so he's no help in that regard. A bright spot for the Knicks was rebounding. We've traded away nearly all of our good rebounders. We wont get as many second chance opportunities as we got last season and we're going to probably give up alot of second chance points.

In the end Sweetney and Curry are pretty similiar players. The biggest difference is that Sweetney is far and away a better rebounder. Sweetney could end up being just as good as Curry in terms of scoring as well as a superior rebounder. When you throw in the fact that Curry may have serious heart issues, a questionable work ethic, and is more expensive then it starts looking like a bad deal. Then when you throw in the draft picks and expiring contract it starts to look even worse.


Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.[/QUOTE]

Like I said before Curry is only 23. He isnt even in his prime yet. That saying you act like Curry will never be a good rebounder and defender. There's a reason the players practice and are in training camps. Its to improve their skills. I dont like the fact that you're doubting Aguirre since he converted Sweetney and Nazr into what they are 2day. And that is good rebounding skills and post moves. Curry in New York gets a fresh start. His work ethic as you describe can be changed with a great coach in Larry Brown who doesnt take crap from anybody. He doesnt practice, then he doesnt play. I like Curry more since he's taller and can stay in games instead of having alot of foul problems like Sweetney had. Curry is a better scorer since he can score facing and looking away from the basket. Curry can also drain shots from 15 feet, a problem Sweetney had. Bottom Line Curry is more versatile and has more aspects of the game then sweets had.

 

[phunDamentalz]

I would love to see this team fall apart. I'm tired of Larry Brown's poor-me act. I'm tired of Isaiah trying to make a team out of guys he likes personally rather than guys who fit into a competitive team. nate robinson is another one of these pet players for isaiah. If you want to play Daddy, go get a woman, if you want to run a successful team, get players that make sense to what you already have. i'm tired of his smug denial of any problems with the team. I'm tired of Stephon Marbury and his lack of ability to inspire confidence in his teammates due to his own need to be on the covers of shoe magazines and urban lifestyle magazines. It's okay to think you're the best point guard in the NBA even if you're clearly not, but for an example on how to be a sick one on one baller like you AND make the rest of the team better, watch what Baron Davis is doing in Oakland, Steph. and then people like tim thomas get all the blame for these guys. I like Quentin Richardson but it's hard to lead a team from the 3-point line. I predict they will not make the playoffs. There are several teams in the East with less pressure on them that will love coming into the Garden and embarrassing Larry and the Knicks on their home court. Wizards Magic Raptors etc...

 

[bravest]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting phunDamentalz:</div><div class="quote_post">I would love to see this team fall apart. I'm tired of Larry Brown's poor-me act. I'm tired of Isaiah trying to make a team out of guys he likes personally rather than guys who fit into a competitive team. nate robinson is another one of these pet players for isaiah.</div>
I am now convinced that you haven't seen Robinson play... He would have easily been a legitmate top-15 pick if weren't for his size, but if you're not happy with him, I'm sure Rick Sund and the boys here in Seattle will give you cash considerations for him if it will make you happy.

Good luck in New York this year...

 

[Bleed Green]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting phunDamentalz:</div><div class="quote_post">I would love to see this team fall apart. I'm tired of Larry Brown's poor-me act. I'm tired of Isaiah trying to make a team out of guys he likes personally rather than guys who fit into a competitive team. nate robinson is another one of these pet players for isaiah. If you want to play Daddy, go get a woman, if you want to run a successful team, get players that make sense to what you already have. i'm tired of his smug denial of any problems with the team. I'm tired of Stephon Marbury and his lack of ability to inspire confidence in his teammates due to his own need to be on the covers of shoe magazines and urban lifestyle magazines. It's okay to think you're the best point guard in the NBA even if you're clearly not, but for an example on how to be a sick one on one baller like you AND make the rest of the team better, watch what Baron Davis is doing in Oakland, Steph. and then people like tim thomas get all the blame for these guys. I like Quentin Richardson but it's hard to lead a team from the 3-point line. I predict they will not make the playoffs. There are several teams in the East with less pressure on them that will love coming into the Garden and embarrassing Larry and the Knicks on their home court. Wizards Magic Raptors etc...</div>

Whoa,WHoa. What Poor-me act? LB was fired from Detroit because Dumars felt LB was a distraction due to his health issues and his comments about the knicks. LB missed around 19 games, which they did have a bad record in. Joe and many people thought those 19 games couldve gotten them home court advantage. Isiah's GUYS are good players. He has formed a team with the additions of a better SF, Center, and PF. He's slowly by slowly building a good team. Nate robinson wasnt drafted by the knicks. He was drafted by the suns and he came in the Q-rich trade. Nate has alot of talent and he can be a key asset of the bench. B-diddy hasnt done much better then marbury either. Marbury has better career numbers in both pg stats. I dont think Baron has passed the 1st round either. This year is marbury's career year. If he wants to be considered a winner then he has to do it now. There's no excuses. Great coach and a very good supporting cast. Tim Thomas was always known as an underachiever. He missed alot of games and he couldnt be found in critical games. Q-rich is a better player then he is and like Q-rich said he hated only having to shoot 3's but thats what the Suns wanted him to do. In LAC he was a better all around player who could use his size and also drain the long shots. Wizards lost one of their key players, Magic still are having problems in their SF, PG, and SG position since they dont know who to start. Raps have a long way to go to win games. They lost VC and Alston. The Raps have alot more problems then the Knicks have.

 

[Skiptomylue11]

I have 4 things to talk about
1. Larry and poor me -GotSkills/Phundamentals
2. Curry and is the trade worth it -Tribute
3. Toronto being worse than NY -Gotskillsz
4. NY being more boring than Atlanta and Toronto -Phundamentals

1.<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GotSkillz92:</div><div class="quote_post">Whoa,WHoa. What Poor-me act? LB was fired from Detroit because Dumars felt LB was a distraction due to his health issues and his comments about the knicks. </div>
I honestly think that Larry Brown had a large part about leaving. Its seems all too convenient that Dumars would fire a Hall of Fame coach that lead his team to the Finals for the past two years and coming back with 1 championship. I have been disappointed with Larry Brown and the way he handled himself with the media and quite a few situations.

2.<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">In the end Sweetney and Curry are pretty similiar players. The biggest difference is that Sweetney is far and away a better rebounder. Sweetney could end up being just as good as Curry in terms of scoring as well as a superior rebounder. When you throw in the fact that Curry may have serious heart issues, a questionable work ethic, and is more expensive then it starts looking like a bad deal. Then when you throw in the draft picks and expiring contract it starts to look even worse.</div>
I am not a Curry fan, and I think he is wasting away his god given size and ability.

Anyway, I agree that Curry and Sweetney are very similar players and Sweetney is probably a harder worker, just because Curry is so lazy. The Knicks are going to try to make playoffs every year for the next 4-5 years so lets forget draft picks for a moment. The only difference right now is that it is so rare to find a decent center and it isn't nearly as hard to get good PFs.

Just by having Curry in the Knicks offense will make offense easier and prevent opposing centers from switching off NY's center making penetration easier for the Knicks.

If Davis is waived then I would rate the trade as 6-6.5 out of 10, where 0 is horrible for the team and 10 is incredible for the team.

If Antonio Davis were to actually play for the Knicks(which I doubt he will), then the trade would be a 7.5 out of 10.

3. Yes the Raptors will be worse than the Knicks, unless some miracle occurs where all of rookies are incredible leaders, learn quickly, develop very good chemistry and team defense, then Toronto won't do very well this year. However in 2 years when Toronto has cap space and another couple young players, the situations may be different.

4. Phun, you will consider Atlanta boring? with all of their athletic young players? Anyway, it depends what you consider boring. Some people like high quality basketball on both ends(Spurs, Miami), some like pure offense(Suns), some like dunkers. New York under Larry Brown will probably be high quality basketball on both ends of the court. I tend to appreciate that kind of game.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">More of this "Agguire and Brown working with him" stuff. There is nothing that suggests he'll want to work on his game. Why would he? He got paid already. The only reason he got himself into shape this past season was because it was the last year of his contract. Dampier did the same thing the season before got a ridiculous contract and was a big disappointment this season.</div>
Well, he did make steady improvements all throughout his career. Unlike Dampier, he steadily improved and averaged 16.1 points; last season he averaged 14.7 points. He also does have his best friend, Crawford, motivating him. I think he’ll be alright.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">By the way its kind of sad Curry couldnt average more than five rebounds per game in a contract year.</div>
As I said before, when you have players like Chandler and Davis on your frontline, they’re going to snatch many boards away. Chicago was also #2 in the league in rebounds per game which shows how great the team is in terms of rebounds. Can I say Sweetney got so many rebounds because he played on a bad rebounding team? I agree I think Curry can stand to improve his rebounding, but it’s not as much a problem as the numbers say.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Havent you read the news? Larry Brown has just said he'll return Antonio Davis to Chicago. He's not staying. Not that it matters since Davis is going to get bought out but how do you figure Davis is better than Thomas??? Now you're just plain making stuff up to justify this bad deal!</div>
Well, Larry isn’t the President of Basketball Operations – Isiah is. Isiah said it himself he has no intentions of letting Davis go. He said he’ll give him a few days to be with his family in Chicago, but he has to be back shortly after. How do I figure Davis is better than Thomas? I hope you know I mean Tim Thomas; not Kurt Thomas.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And you have said it yourself Curry and Sweetney are about equal. So what kind of sense does it make to trade for Curry when he may have serious issues?</div>
How about potential? Curry is a guy from high school who is still learning while Sweetney went to college. They might be about the same now, but in 2-3 years from now, there could be a big difference. Like it or not, Sweetney’s potential is limited because he’s a 6’8” power forward. In this day and age, athletic power forwards are taking the league by storm and it was evident last year when Sweetney couldn’t stay in front of his man without fouling. Sweetney averages 3 fouls in 20 minutes.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Nevermind the fact Sweetney would have been cheaper(by the way it's pretty hard for a player to leave when their a restricted free agent just thought you should know)and we would have been able to hang onto our expiring contract and draft picks. Isiah will probably trade Penny too if for no other reason than to do something since that jackass cant sit still for a few months without doing something stupid.</div>
I know restricted free agents are hard to sign, but I feel the most we could give him would be the qualifying offer. After hearing all those trade rumors, Sweetney wouldn’t want to stay either. He’ll go to a place where he can get paid or play more. I loved Sweetney’s game, but I think this could be a good thing for us.

 

[ChicagoSportsFan]

Congrats Ny I cant wait until the bulls play the Knicks. I dont know why all of the knicks fans have been crying. You guys got a hell of a deal. I kind of hate that we werent able to keep Curry but maybe brown can make your squad work. You guys have alot of talent on your team and if you could play together youd be dangerous. Maybe curry was the missing piece.

GL NY!

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">More of this "Agguire and Brown working with him" stuff. There is nothing that suggests he'll want to work on his game. Why would he? He got paid already. The only reason he got himself into shape this past season was because it was the last year of his contract. Dampier did the same thing the season before got a ridiculous contract and was a big disappointment this season.</div>
Well, he did make steady improvements all throughout his career. Unlike Dampier, he steadily improved and averaged 16.1 points; last season he averaged 14.7 points. He also does have his best friend, Crawford, motivating him. I think he?ll be alright.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">By the way its kind of sad Curry couldnt average more than five rebounds per game in a contract year.</div>
As I said before, when you have players like Chandler and Davis on your frontline, they?re going to snatch many boards away. Chicago was also #2 in the league in rebounds per game which shows how great the team is in terms of rebounds. Can I say Sweetney got so many rebounds because he played on a bad rebounding team? I agree I think Curry can stand to improve his rebounding, but it?s not as much a problem as the numbers say.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Havent you read the news? Larry Brown has just said he'll return Antonio Davis to Chicago. He's not staying. Not that it matters since Davis is going to get bought out but how do you figure Davis is better than Thomas??? Now you're just plain making stuff up to justify this bad deal!</div>
Well, Larry isn?t the President of Basketball Operations ? Isiah is. Isiah said it himself he has no intentions of letting Davis go. He said he?ll give him a few days to be with his family in Chicago, but he has to be back shortly after. How do I figure Davis is better than Thomas? I hope you know I mean Tim Thomas; not Kurt Thomas.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And you have said it yourself Curry and Sweetney are about equal. So what kind of sense does it make to trade for Curry when he may have serious issues?</div>
How about potential? Curry is a guy from high school who is still learning while Sweetney went to college. They might be about the same now, but in 2-3 years from now, there could be a big difference. Like it or not, Sweetney?s potential is limited because he?s a 6?8? power forward. In this day and age, athletic power forwards are taking the league by storm and it was evident last year when Sweetney couldn?t stay in front of his man without fouling. Sweetney averages 3 fouls in 20 minutes.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Nevermind the fact Sweetney would have been cheaper(by the way it's pretty hard for a player to leave when their a restricted free agent just thought you should know)and we would have been able to hang onto our expiring contract and draft picks. Isiah will probably trade Penny too if for no other reason than to do something since that jackass cant sit still for a few months without doing something stupid.</div>
I know restricted free agents are hard to sign, but I feel the most we could give him would be the qualifying offer. After hearing all those trade rumors, Sweetney wouldn?t want to stay either. He?ll go to a place where he can get paid or play more. I loved Sweetney?s game, but I think this could be a good thing for us.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Curry has been in the league for four years now so its not too surprising he's averaging 15ppg. He cant rebound and he cant defend which is two things that a good center mustbe able to do.</div>
But Curry was a high schooler while Sweetney was a college junior. There?s a big difference. Curry can?t defend, but neither can Sweetney. Curry is a slightly below average rebounder, but he can learn. Remember, this guy is still young and he?s still learning.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The reason why the trade was lousy is because Curry simply doesnt help all that much. Scoring wasnt really a problem. The Knicks biggest problem last season was defense. Curry doesnt play defense so he's no help in that regard.</div>
The Knicks never had a post scorer except Sweetney who scored there for 8 points a game. The Knicks defense suffered because their lack of big men. Their tallest big man was a 6?9? Kurt Thomas. Now with Frye, James, and Curry ? three players all 6?11? and above ? the Knicks are going to be better defensively. I also think we?re going to keep Davis and if that?s the case, our defense will get even better on the interior.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">A bright spot for the Knicks was rebounding. We've traded away nearly all of our good rebounders. We wont get as many second chance opportunities as we got last season and we're going to probably give up alot of second chance points.</div>
How was rebounding a bright spot for the Knicks last season? We were 22nd in the league last season in RPG.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">In the end Sweetney and Curry are pretty similiar players. The biggest difference is that Sweetney is far and away a better rebounder. Sweetney could end up being just as good as Curry in terms of scoring as well as a superior rebounder. When you throw in the fact that Curry may have serious heart issues, a questionable work ethic, and is more expensive then it starts looking like a bad deal. Then when you throw in the draft picks and expiring contract it starts to look even worse.</div>
Yeah, they?re similar it?s just Curry is still learning. If Curry went to college than some of the mistakes he?s made in his career wouldn?t have happened. It?s all a learning process and fortunately he can learn from one of the best post players and one of the best coaches. And Curry doesn?t have any serious heart issues. They said he wasn?t in any more risk as any other player in the league. Draft picks really don?t matter. We have our young core set and if we don?t make the playoffs, we have a lottery-protected pick.

 

[Bleed Green]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting michiganave17:</div><div class="quote_post">Congrats Ny I cant wait until the bulls play the Knicks. I dont know why all of the knicks fans have been crying. You guys got a hell of a deal. I kind of hate that we werent able to keep Curry but maybe brown can make your squad work. You guys have alot of talent on your team and if you could play together youd be dangerous. Maybe curry was the missing piece.

GL NY!</div>
We're not crying. The only knicks fan that hates the deal is tribute to h20. I like the trade because of Curry's potential and Davis' experience and presence. I agree with the pieces thing. I think Isiah has added good players to the areas in which they needed help. They needed size so they added frye, curry, james, and davis. They needed a backup pg so they added Nate. They needed a healthy shooter so they added q-rich. They needed a good coach to lead a rebuilding team so they added LB. The Knicks have had one of the best offseasons.

 

[Tribute to H2O]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GotSkillz92:</div><div class="quote_post">Like I said before Curry is only 23. He isnt even in his prime yet. That saying you act like Curry will never be a good rebounder and defender. There's a reason the players practice and are in training camps. Its to improve their skills. I dont like the fact that you're doubting Aguirre since he converted Sweetney and Nazr into what they are 2day. And that is good rebounding skills and post moves. Curry in New York gets a fresh start. His work ethic as you describe can be changed with a great coach in Larry Brown who doesnt take crap from anybody. He doesnt practice, then he doesnt play. I like Curry more since he's taller and can stay in games instead of having alot of foul problems like Sweetney had. Curry is a better scorer since he can score facing and looking away from the basket. Curry can also drain shots from 15 feet, a problem Sweetney had. Bottom Line Curry is more versatile and has more aspects of the game then sweets had.</div>

I seriously hope you dont think Curry will be a truly dominant center. I doubt Curry will ever be a good rebounder and defender. He's been in the league for years now and he still cant rebound or defend. There is no reason to think he will start now. Until he proves he can rebound and guard somebody then we shouldnt assume he will. Agguire was definetely helpful with Sweetney and Nazr but let's not get too carried away. Sweetney was a good rebounder even in his rookie year when he barely got any minutes. Sweetney was also a good low post scorer in college so it's not like Agguire made something out of nothing. Nazr's post up game was still weak even after Agguire took him under his wing. What on Earth makes you think a coach has anything to do with work ethic? A player either has a good work ethic or he doesnt. It's really that simple. The coach has nothing to do with it. A player only works hard because they want to work hard. It's about the player not the coach. The greatest coach in all of sports history couldnt instill a good work ethic in a player who doesnt have it. If Larry Brown is going to be as strict as you say he will be than I guess Curry wont be playing. By the way what good is being taller if it doesnt translate into your game? Curry is three inches taller but he's a much weaker rebounder than Sweetney. Curry can hit the fifteen footer? That's nice. Sweetney can post up than hit the fadeaway jumper. What's your point? I'm sorry but how does Curry have more aspects of the game when he cant even rebound at 6'11" and 275+ pounds?

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GotSkillz92:</div><div class="quote_post">We're not crying. The only knicks fan that hates the deal is tribute to h20. I like the trade because of Curry's potential and Davis' experience and presence. I agree with the pieces thing. I think Isiah has added good players to the areas in which they needed help. They needed size so they added frye, curry, james, and davis. They needed a backup pg so they added Nate. They needed a healthy shooter so they added q-rich. They needed a good coach to lead a rebuilding team so they added LB. The Knicks have had one of the best offseasons.</div>

Davis will probably be bought out. Curry's potential? So why arent you mad about giving up TT? He has tons of potential too. The Knicks certainly needed size and they did add the players you just mentioned. But it seems you're forgetting the point of having size in the frontcourt. Teams want size in the frontcourt because usually more size equals more points in the paint and more rebounding. But that's not so in the cases of Frye, James and Curry. If the Knicks wanted a back up point guard they should have gotten Jarett Jack instead. He plays tough defense and is a good playmaker which is what you want out of your back up point guard. Richardson isnt a good shooter. Rebuilding teams dont trade away salary space and draft picks. The Knicks offseason was busy and active but that's it. Dont mistaken motion for progress. The Knicks needed to improve their defense but they didnt. Instead their rebounding has gotten worse. The team has added more scorers but not much else. Larry Brown was the best thing that happened this offseason. The Knicks will be better than last season but unless Houston returns to All Star form which most people consider unlikely than the Knicks will return to the lottery.


Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.

 

[Bleed Green]

[quote name='Tribute to H2O']I seriously hope you dont think Curry will be a truly dominant center. I doubt Curry will ever be a good rebounder and defender. He's been in the league for years now and he still cant rebound or defend. There is no reason to think he will start now. Until he proves he can rebound and guard somebody then we shouldnt assume he will. Agguire was definetely helpful with Sweetney and Nazr but let's not get too carried away. Sweetney was a good rebounder even in his rookie year when he barely got any minutes. Sweetney was also a good low post scorer in college so it's not like Agguire made something out of nothing. Nazr's post up game was still weak even after Agguire took him under his wing. What on Earth makes you think a coach has anything to do with work ethic? A player either has a good work ethic or he doesnt. It's really that simple. The coach has nothing to do with it. A player only works hard because they want to work hard. It's about the player not the coach. The greatest coach in all of sports history couldnt instill a good work ethic in a player who doesnt have it. If Larry Brown is going to be as strict as you say he will be than I guess Curry wont be playing. By the way what good is being taller if it doesnt translate into your game? Curry is three inches taller but he's a much weaker rebounder than Sweetney. Curry can hit the fifteen footer? That's nice. Sweetney can post up than hit the fadeaway jumper. What's your point? I'm sorry but how does Curry have more aspects of the game when he cant even rebound at 6'11" and 275+ pounds?

1st of all I think that Curry has tons of potential. There's a reason Isiah wanted to go after him. How can you predict whether or not a player is going 2 be a good one or a bad one? Do you have powers? I think Curry's work ethic will increase because he's happy to be here and he has a fresh start. Sweetney's performance increased dramatically after his 1st season. He scored more points and he nearly doubled his rebounding. Nazr Mohammed
was at best a backup center for the hawks, now he's starting for the nba champions. A coach is suppose to push their players and make them work everyday at practice. What you think a coach just shows up on gameday and leaves the same day? You compare Sweetney with Curry when Curry came straight out of highschool and Sweetney spent years in Georgetown. Sweets played in a collegiate level while Curry played with nobodies. Sweets had more experience so thats why he's a better rebounder. Thats a huge advantage.You mentioned Curry's weight and height. Thats why I think Curry has a good chance to dominate the glass and defend very well. Like i said before 23 years old and he's not even in his prime. He still has alot to learn. But he has to have good work ethic which I think he will have here in NY.


Davis will probably be bought out. Curry's potential? So why arent you mad about giving up TT? He has tons of potential too. The Knicks certainly needed size and they did add the players you just mentioned. But it seems you're forgetting the point of having size in the frontcourt. Teams want size in the frontcourt because usually more size equals more points in the paint and more rebounding. But that's not so in the cases of Frye, James and Curry. If the Knicks wanted a back up point guard they should have gotten Jarett Jack instead. He plays tough defense and is a good playmaker which is what you want out of your back up point guard. Richardson isnt a good shooter. Rebuilding teams dont trade away salary space and draft picks. The Knicks offseason was busy and active but that's it. Dont mistaken motion for progress. The Knicks needed to improve their defense but they didnt. Instead their rebounding has gotten worse. The team has added more scorers but not much else. Larry Brown was the best thing that happened this offseason. The Knicks will be better than last season but unless Houston returns to All Star form which most people consider unlikely than the Knicks will return to the lottery.


Isiah hasnt given up in Davis. He's the GM not LB. He's hoping his off the court problems will heal soon because Davis will be a big presence for the knicks. TT is already reaching his 30's. He has never reached his potential and Ive never like him. I thought trading TT for Keith was dumb. Keith is by far a better player then TT is. You're already saying Frye is a bust when he's still a rookie. What Frye doesnt have potential either? You can't criticize a player who has never played a minute in the NBA. JJ is coming off a great playoff performance in the West for the Sonics. He's already mentioned his ego was lost his 5th year so I think he'll work hard this season. Richardson isnt a good shooter? Are u crazy? He led the league in 3pts made last season and he did win the 3pt contest. Q is a great shooter. He can drop the perimeter shot all night long just like he did with the Suns. You can't say Curry, Frye, and JJ arent an improvement over Sweets and Kurt. The knicks were 22nd in rebounding and last in blocked shots. Anything is better then that. I think those 3 can be a huge factor in the paint.

 

[Buckets]

Im not getting into this huge fuss.

It hink Eddy will be a key factor in whether the Knicks lose or win this season he'll have a big part to do with there record if he remains healthy. Is it just me or does Eddy look more fit?

 

[Equint77]

I think what we have to look at here is what the Knicks are doing is getting younger.. and with youth comes patience.

They have the best teacher in basketball in LB and to say Curry, or QR or JC or Ariza or Channing and the other rooks won't flourish or learn is being purely negative.

H20 has hated Frye since draft day... yet his pick (Bynum) is now being shipped to the D-league... check ESPN.com. So had the Knicks gone with his pick.... they'd have one less player because he'd need serious development... versus a guy who has impressed LB, (through his own words) in training camp.

Sure Q needs improvement on his shot.. but I'd take him over Tim Tomas 10 times out of 10... hell just on the fact that Tim Thomas sleep walks on the court. And for a player like Q to be like the 4th option in Phoenix and still lead the league in 3's.... you can't blame that on just jacking up shots... he took them, but he made them.

And yes Buckets... Curry does look more fit... and I'm confident working with Aguirre and Herb as well as LB will kick start him into what I think will be his most productive year so far.

 

[G XIII]

I think Curry is more agressive then Sweetney. He'll get to the basket and draw more fouls. In all i am happy with the deal . Knicks picked up a few bodies and Antonio Davis is a veteran brusier that will be a presence in the middle. Something the Knicks have been missing in quite some time.