Dame all but demanding vet roster

[Tince]

He literally created the drama all on his own. And he complains when people run with it.

I'm so tired of this crap.

Then I would suggest staying off social media, the sports platforms, and certainly this board. Don't subject yourself to anything that makes you unhappy, mental health is #1!

 

[illmatic99]

If you’re a free agent, why would you sign with Portland while Dame is out there saying who he’d like to play for?

In the exit interviews, Dame mentioned there were guys in the league who want to play with him in Portland. This "news" from Marang isn't anything new.

But certainly these off hand comments about other teams are not helping.

 

[illmatic99]

Then I would suggest staying off social media, the sports platforms, and certainly this board. Don't subject yourself to anything that makes you unhappy, mental health is #1!

I will take my annual break from hoops after summer league.

 

[Natebishop3]

This cant be helpful for Cronins leverage when you have Haynes threatening a "conversation" if we make a pick at 3.

To be fair, Haynes was just quoting what Dame said in April and what Dame said again in that interview.

 

[e_blazer]

If you’re a free agent, why would you sign with Portland while Dame is out there saying who he’d like to play for?

If he’d done that, you’d have a point. In reality, in that interview he said he wants to stay in Portland and go for a title here. The interviewer pushed back and asked what teams would be of interest if things don’t work out in Portland. It would have been nice if he’d just blown it off, but Dame is a good guy and shared his thoughts.

 

[Natebishop3]

Whats wrong with wanting a conversation? That doesnt mean a conversation to trade Dame. Maybe it means a conversation on the long term plans management has?

maybe those answers are good for Dame and that conversation goes well?

so much overblowing over “have to have a conversation”.

dog days of summer are in full bloom.
Ima go get my tim hat to avoid the aliens!

Because that’s not what he said. He said that he didn't want another rookie and if that’s the route that the team decides to go, they would have a different kind of conversation. He basically said that he would ask to be traded without saying the exact words.

 

[Natebishop3]

If he’d done that, you’d have a point. In reality, in that interview he said he wants to stay in Portland and go for a title here. The interviewer pushed back and asked what teams would be of interest if things don’t work out in Portland. It would have been nice if he’d just blown it off, but Dame is a good guy and shared his thoughts.

I know that. I listened to the whole thing. But regardless, he said who he’d like to play for if he was going to leave Portland, and if I’m a free agent that would make me think that Dame is considering leaving Portland. He already has a list in his mind if he decides to ask out.

 

[RR7]

I know that. I listened to the whole thing. But regardless, he said who he’d like to play for if he was going to leave Portland, and if I’m a free agent that would make me think that Dame is considering leaving Portland. He already has a list in his mind if he decides to ask out.

If you're a free agent talking to dame, then you're actually talking to dame and know how he feels instead of adjusting what he said to fit a narrative. Pretty simple.

 

[Natebishop3]

If you're a free agent talking to dame, then you're actually talking to dame and know how he feels instead of adjusting what he said to fit a narrative. Pretty simple.

Ok but why would you really consider Portland if Dame is publicly saying things that indicate he would ask out if we draft a player?

If your buddy was asking you to come work with him, while also saying that he might be leaving the company if they don’t do what he wants, that would lead me to believe that I wouldn’t be joining a place on stable ground.

 

[wizenheimer]

However, Dame is also smart enough to know what types of comments the media will take out of context. He could easily say, "I'm not going to talk about other teams or players," if he wants to avoid that kind of misrepresentation, but he doesn't.

I'm not saying that Dame is starting these fires, but he's certainly not making any effort to starve them of fuel.

he may have exercised some questionable judgement in interviews lately. That doesn't mean I'm buying the assertion he's undermining Cronin's leverage by talking about Brooklyn or Miami because they are two of the 3 or 4 teams that might actually try to trade for Dame. All these fantasy Dame-trades to Houston or Orlando or Utah don't have any legs. Fake value nonsense

and as mentioned already, it may be that after a decade of Olshey, and what Dame has seen of Jody Allen & the Vulcans, and Cronin's relative inexperience, Dame doesn't feel like reducing pressure on the front office or ownership. He saw a decade of the 'risk-adverse-fence-straddling-dumpster-diving-easy-path-failures' of the Blazers under Olshey. He probably doesn't want to make it easy for them to find another fence to straddle

it doesn't make it easy on Blazer fans though, and when you're talking about trade-Dame fires there are plenty of posters here who will search for any spark and blow on it violently. Blow jobs galore

 

[Natebishop3]

he may have exercised some questionable judgement in interviews lately. That doesn't mean I'm buying the assertion he's undermining Cronin's leverage by talking about Brooklyn or Miami because they are two of the 3 or 4 teams that might actually try to trade for Dame. All these fantasy Dame-trades to Houston or Orlando or Utah don't have any legs. Fake value nonsense

and as mentioned already, it may be that after a decade of Olshey, and what Dame has seen of Jody Allen & the Vulcans, and Cronin's relative inexperience, Dame doesn't feel like reducing pressure on the front office or ownership. He saw a decade of the 'risk-adverse-fence-straddling-dumpster-diving-easy-path-failures' of the Blazers under Olshey. He probably doesn't want to make it easy for them to find another fence to straddle

it doesn't make it easy on Blazer fans though, and when you're talking about trade-Dame fires there are plenty of posters here who will search for any spark and blow on it violently. Blow jobs galore

I don’t see how it wouldn’t weaken our leverage.

If you’re a team trying to trade for the pick, you’re loving that Dame is out there continuously applying pressure because you’re hoping that Joe gets desperate and makes a bad trade.

If you’re Brooklyn you’re thinking, why would I trade you Bridges when I can wait and hopefully trade for Dame?

 

[e_blazer]

I know that. I listened to the whole thing. But regardless, he said who he’d like to play for if he was going to leave Portland, and if I’m a free agent that would make me think that Dame is considering leaving Portland. He already has a list in his mind if he decides to ask out.

I don’t think that’s a newsflash to anyone who follows the NBA, including Portland’s own free agent, Jerami Grant. Everyone knows that if Dame isn’t happy with Cronin’s initial moves in free agency Dame’s going to be looking to exit. Cronin has to get the draft and the first moves of free agency right and done quickly. He’s definitely threading a small needle.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I don’t think that’s a newsflash to anyone who follows the NBA, including Portland’s own free agent, Jerami Grant. Everyone knows that if Dame isn’t happy with Cronin’s initial moves in free agency Dame’s going to be looking to exit. Cronin has to get the draft and the first moves of free agency right and done quickly. He’s definitely threading a small needle.

Also, it has been mentioned that Dame is still out there recruiting FAs to Portland. Although I am sure that list is small based on who is available, what our needs are, and the limited money we have available. Grant, Naz Reid, and a couple of others? One quick phone call from Dame can clear things up during the week before teams can contact free agents......" legally"

 

[Tince]

I think we are arguing semantics. Agree to disagree.

I just knew this would happen even if he followed up by saying he would still be in Portland. I'm just saying that he can't complain afterwards of the media driving the narrative of him leaving when he is knowingly fanning those flames every time he goes in front of a mic. And his mouthpiece Haynes is not helping either.

To @Phatguysrule point, you said Dame "literally" said he wanted to play for other teams, and he certainly did not say that. Even if you watch the tiniest part of an aggregated clip, he didn't say that. If you watched the entire interview, he clearly didn't say say he wanted to play for any other team. You did fall in the clickbait trap a bit on this one.

 

[Predator]

Cronin never had leverage so I don't get why people are getting so uptight about all this.

The entire league knows what we know: They must add someone to make Dame happy.

This is also why I said I'm prepared for a really, really lopsided trade solely to make Dame happy because, in our own GM's words, he essentially stated that "we need to make a move to help now and not worry about what that player becomes in the future".

LMAO

 

[tykendo]

Cronin never had leverage so I don't get why people are getting so uptight about all this.

The entire league knows what we know: They must add someone to make Dame happy.

This is also why I said I'm prepared for a really, really lopsided trade solely to make Dame happy because, in our own GM's words, he essentially stated that "we need to make a move to help now and not worry about what that player becomes in the future".

LMAO

The Blazers leverage will be fine because they have the rights to draft Future MJ clone Scoot " Almighty " Henderson. Dude dominated the G League. Blazers should be able to get 2 All NBA players in return at a minimum.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Cronin never had leverage so I don't get why people are getting so uptight about all this.

The entire league knows what we know: They must add someone to make Dame happy.

This is also why I said I'm prepared for a really, really lopsided trade solely to make Dame happy because, in our own GM's words, he essentially stated that "we need to make a move to help now and not worry about what that player becomes in the future".

LMAO

I think his leverage will depend on what Charlotte does. If Scoot falls to us I assume more teams will want him and thus a bidding war could occur on draft night. Right now they don't know who they are trading for, so unless they like multiple players at 3...they are holding off.

 

[wizenheimer]

I don’t see how it wouldn’t weaken our leverage.

I know you don't. You'll focus on the Miami/Brooklyn stuff instead of "I believe I'll be a Blazer when the season starts"

I just don't think NBA front offices are that reactionary or spend much time spinning round & round based upon tweets and player interviews

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Because that’s not what he said. He said that he didn't want another rookie and if that’s the route that the team decides to go, they would have a different kind of conversation. He basically said that he would ask to be traded without saying the exact words.

but it IS what he said. But you are certainly entitled to interpret as you prefer. He has said it several times…

I have to say. The amount of attention assumed stress some are putting on themselves over this os simply over the top.
You are steadfast in your opinion. That doesn't make your opinion any more factual than mine.

 

[tykendo]

I know you don't. You'll focus on the Miami/Brooklyn stuff instead of "I believe I'll be a Blazer when the season starts"

I just don't think NBA front offices are that reactionary or spend much time spinning round & round based upon tweets and player interviews

I actually hope all the other NBA teams in the league are falling all over themselves at the chance to get Scoot. I want them to love Scoot . Blazers leverage will never be higher with that #3 pick if Scoot is still there. Let the bidding war begin.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Because that’s not what he said. He said that he didn't want another rookie and if that’s the route that the team decides to go, they would have a different kind of conversation. He basically said that he would ask to be traded without saying the exact words.

We all know very well what you think of his statements and what you should think will happen. Maybe tone it down a bit? Ive been catching up and my god this run youn have is becoming nauseating. How ling are you going to push your opinion on everything everywhere here as the only correct opinion?

come on man…

 

[PCmor7]

Because that’s not what he said. He said that he didn't want another rookie and if that’s the route that the team decides to go, they would have a different kind of conversation. He basically said that he would ask to be traded without saying the exact words.

Pretty stilted interpretation, but we've been through this before ad nauseum. For instance, he didn't say he didn't want another rookie. He said he didn't want a 19-year-old that was going to take 2-or-3 years to develop. And you nor I, by your own admission in our prior conversation, know what the other kind of conversation would be, the tone it would have, what he was looking for from it, etc. ... in other words, it's taking a massive, unsubstantiated leap to conclude he was going to ask to be traded from "we'll have to have another conversation."

Dame said that ... and a lot of other things and did a lot of other things that don't support your narrative and your contention. You just keep plowing down the same path with no regard to the information you don't like, though, because you don't possess the imagination to see anything other than through your specific lens.

 

[Tince]

Cronin never had leverage so I don't get why people are getting so uptight about all this.

The entire league knows what we know: They must add someone to make Dame happy.

This is also why I said I'm prepared for a really, really lopsided trade solely to make Dame happy because, in our own GM's words, he essentially stated that "we need to make a move to help now and not worry about what that player becomes in the future".

LMAO

I assumed what you said was obvious, but clearly it isn't, so I'm glad you said it.

IF Dame wants to be traded and we open it up to the best offer, the previous comments should have zero impact on who Portland can get for him. If Cronin decides he's only going to trade Dame to his #1 choice, then this will be known by both parties and the leverage will be crap, as you said.

What he's saying on a boxing podcast isn't going to change the trade market. Good or bad.

 

[Tince]

Pretty stilted interpretation, but we've been through this before ad nauseum. For instance, he didn't say he didn't want another rookie. He said he didn't want a 19-year-old that was going to take 2-or-3 years to develop. And you nor I, by your own admission in our prior conversation, know what the other kind of conversation would be, the tone it would have, what he was looking for from it, etc. ... in other words, it's taking a massive, unsubstantiated leap to conclude he was going to ask to be traded from "we'll have to have another conversation."

Dame said that ... and a lot of other things and did a lot of other things that don't support your narrative and your contention. You just keep plowing down the same path with no regard to the information you don't like, though, because you don't possess the imagination to see anything other than through your specific lens.

It's been entertaining watching the summary of what Dame said about not wanting to add another 19 year old needing developing, to what it is today. Eventually, the it will be that Dame will demand a trade if Portland doesn't add multiple starters over the age of 45.

 

[RonBrewer]

LOL @ people "Tired of Dame" go find another team. Nobody gives a shit what you're tired of. He's prob tired of weak ass MF FANS

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Pretty stilted interpretation, but we've been through this before ad nauseum. For instance, he didn't say he didn't want another rookie. He said he didn't want a 19-year-old that was going to take 2-or-3 years to develop. And you nor I, by your own admission in our prior conversation, know what the other kind of conversation would be, the tone it would have, what he was looking for from it, etc. ... in other words, it's taking a massive, unsubstantiated leap to conclude he was going to ask to be traded from "we'll have to have another conversation."

Dame said that ... and a lot of other things and did a lot of other things that don't support your narrative and your contention. You just keep plowing down the same path with no regard to the information you don't like, though, because you don't possess the imagination to see anything other than through your specific lens.

biased folks are going to omit what doesn't fit their narrative and twist everything else up until it fits what they are selling.

 

[illmatic99]

LMAO

This isn't funny to me

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

This isn't funny to me

Emotions….

 

[andalusian]

Not that anyone gives a shit about what I think, but here it is anyway.

I am all for Dame saying whatever he wants, heck it is entertainment which is why most of us follow professional basketball.

I am also all for anything that makes other GMs calling Portland's GM to discuss whatever, it is never a bad thing, imho.

 

[tykendo]

I just find it silly that some will say a proven All NBA player , added to our All NBA player , has a slim chance of helping the team contend, but drafting an unproven youngster has all the chance in the world of succeeding going forward.