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KingAlbertoJrSpeed said:
I looked it up. We went 11-11 in the last 22 games BEFORE Wes went down. And 10-11 after he went down.
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WE did cool down before the injury to Wes. You are right about that. I guess for me it the classic eyetest thing, which I know is not scientific. With a healthy Wes, it just seemed that everyone played harder and the sets on offense and our defensive intensity looked much better. We lost some games before the injury, but watching the games, I remember feeling a lot more confident that we could pull off a win. Just my thoughts. I am an optimist as well, so I am not trying to argue or anything. I love your opinions. I am excited about this team. I just personally feel like we need a little time and growth to get to the next level.
Go Blazers!
 
Dame moves up to #4 in PPG. CJ at #11. Nice to see two Blazers near the top, both with solid fg%.

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Last year, LaMarcus was #7 (23.4 ppg, 46.6% fg), and Lillard was #13 (21.0 ppg, 43.4% fg).

I'd be surprised if Lillard and McCollum can maintain this pace, but it's fun to watch while it lasts. My guess is that Lillard ends the year around 25 ppg, and CJ around 18 ppg. To be honest, I kind of hope that happens. That would probably mean that the other players on the team are stepping up to shoulder some of the additional scoring load.

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handclap problematic said:
WE did cool down before the injury to Wes. You are right about that. I guess for me it the classic eyetest thing, which I know is not scientific. With a healthy Wes, it just seemed that everyone played harder and the sets on offense and our defensive intensity looked much better. We lost some games before the injury, but watching the games, I remember feeling a lot more confident that we could pull off a win. Just my thoughts. I am an optimist as well, so I am not trying to argue or anything. I love your opinions. I am excited about this team. I just personally feel like we need a little time and growth to get to the next level.
Go Blazers!
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Definitely. I'm not talking championship at the moment but we are definitely better than last year and will be even better in 2 years
 
42N8Bounce said:
Dame moves up to #4 in PPG. CJ at #11. Nice to see two Blazers near the top, both with solid fg%.

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Last year, LaMarcus was #7 (23.4 ppg, 46.6% fg), and Lillard was #13 (21.0 ppg, 43.4% fg).

I'd be surprised if Lillard and McCollum can maintain this pace, but it's fun to watch while it lasts. My guess is that Lillard ends the year around 25 ppg, and CJ around 18 ppg. To be honest, I kind of hope that happens. That would probably mean that the other players on the team are stepping up to shoulder some of the additional scoring load.

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There are still plenty of points for the supporting cast to score if Dame/CJ go for 50 a game so I don't see that as a problem.
 
KingAlbertoJrSpeed said:
Definitely. I'm not talking championship at the moment but we are definitely better than last year and will be even better in 2 years
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I'm with you there, my friend! This team could be amazing in 2 years. 2017-2018 could be EVEN better. THAT is what I'm excited about! :cheers:
 
handiman said:
I loved Stotts' creativity early on, but last year felt like a major regression. Seeing the way LMA checked out in the playoffs, the starters [literally] all going separate directions, the apparent tight bond and elevated effort among the new group, Stotts again putting a very effective offense out there despite that figuring to be the weakness this year, and the "refuge"-ees sucking it up elsewhere, makes me think there were serious locker room issues last year that were kept quiet. I'm excited to see what this group can do going forward.
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It had more to do with everyone was on an expiring contract (except Batum). Once Wes went down they all knew it was pretty much over. Add to the fact that they're all playing for a new contract during the summer meant they were playing carefully so as to not end up like Wes and losing out on significant cash. It's human nature and something that was always in the back of my mind at the beginning of last season. I felt like if we hit the injury bug to one of our starting five everyone else will start thinking about their health more than winning a certain game.
 
handiman said:
I loved Stotts' creativity early on, but last year felt like a major regression. Seeing the way LMA checked out in the playoffs, the starters [literally] all going separate directions, the apparent tight bond and elevated effort among the new group, Stotts again putting a very effective offense out there despite that figuring to be the weakness this year, and the "refuge"-ees sucking it up elsewhere, makes me think there were serious locker room issues last year that were kept quiet. I'm excited to see what this group can do going forward.
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On my high school team there was a lot of people who didn't have each others backs. Most were friends off the court so it seemed like we had a good locker room, but these dudes wouldn't support the other because of jealousy (the other guy was getting more minutes, touches, etc.). Everyone would compare themselves to others because their ego was too big, and it made for a bad locker room, even though it looked good on the surface.

Now in college, Ive experienced what it's like to be a part of an actual TEAM, one that supports each other and has each others backs, and is motivated me and makes me play harder because I don't want to let them down.

On the surface, they looked the same, but deep down, the locker rooms were drastically different. I think Portland's locker room last year compared to my high school. Wes has an ego. Love the dude, but the free agency "I'm worth $15M coming off a torn achilles" stuff brought it out. We all know Lamarsha compared himself to Dame, and when your top player has a fragile ego, it's a bad effect on the whole locker room. Sometimes Batum played like he didn't give a fuck, and who knew what was running through his mind.

This year's TEAM is a TEAM. That was evident with the San Diego trip and the pre training camp work they put in. They all play hard and you can tell that they gel in a way last year's team never did.
 
BonesJones said:
On my high school team there was a lot of people who didn't have each others backs. Most were friends off the court so it seemed like we had a good locker room, but these dudes wouldn't support the other because of jealousy (the other guy was getting more minutes, touches, etc.). Everyone would compare themselves to others because their ego was too big, and it made for a bad locker room, even though it looked good on the surface.

Now in college, Ive experienced what it's like to be a part of an actual TEAM, one that supports each other and has each others backs, and is motivated me and makes me play harder because I don't want to let them down.

On the surface, they looked the same, but deep down, the locker rooms were drastically different. I think Portland's locker room last year compared to my high school. Wes has an ego. Love the dude, but the free agency "I'm worth $15M coming off a torn achilles" stuff brought it out. We all know Lamarsha compared himself to Dame, and when your top player has a fragile ego, it's a bad effect on the whole locker room. Sometimes Batum played like he didn't give a fuck, and who knew what was running through his mind.

This year's TEAM is a TEAM. That was evident with the San Diego trip and the pre training camp work they put in. They all play hard and you can tell that they gel in a way last year's team never did.
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Good post Bones. And nice perspective....
 
BlazerCaravan said:
I didn't know you play. Cool!
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yeah man I'm going into my freshmen year at a CC. It's a whole nother level from high school man, its fun though. I just didn't want people assuming I thought I was a hotshot since I played.. But I think I've entrenched myself enough in this forum now!
 
42N8Bounce said:
Dame moves up to #4 in PPG. CJ at #11. Nice to see two Blazers near the top, both with solid fg%.

View attachment 6591

Last year, LaMarcus was #7 (23.4 ppg, 46.6% fg), and Lillard was #13 (21.0 ppg, 43.4% fg).

I'd be surprised if Lillard and McCollum can maintain this pace, but it's fun to watch while it lasts. My guess is that Lillard ends the year around 25 ppg, and CJ around 18 ppg. To be honest, I kind of hope that happens. That would probably mean that the other players on the team are stepping up to shoulder some of the additional scoring load.

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Holy Stephen Curry!! Those are 2K16 numbers! On another note, I hope CJ stays above 20 ppg. That would entrench him as the MIP.
 
BonesJones said:
yeah man I'm going into my freshmen year at a CC. It's a whole nother level from high school man, its fun though. I just didn't want people assuming I thought I was a hotshot since I played.. But I think I've entrenched myself enough in this forum now!
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CC? Clackamas Community? Where did you play your high school ball?
 
Columbia Basin. CC - Community College. I played at Columbia River HS in Vancouver
 
BonesJones said:
Columbia Basin. CC - Community College. I played at Columbia River HS in Vancouver
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Where have all you guys been??? Jeez, we had most of a thread running a shot clinic on Bone's form about a month ago. When he hits it big we're all going to take the credit. You guys are too late to the bandwagon.....
 
BonesJones said:
On my high school team there was a lot of people who didn't have each others backs. Most were friends off the court so it seemed like we had a good locker room, but these dudes wouldn't support the other because of jealousy (the other guy was getting more minutes, touches, etc.). Everyone would compare themselves to others because their ego was too big, and it made for a bad locker room, even though it looked good on the surface.

Now in college, Ive experienced what it's like to be a part of an actual TEAM, one that supports each other and has each others backs, and is motivated me and makes me play harder because I don't want to let them down.

On the surface, they looked the same, but deep down, the locker rooms were drastically different. I think Portland's locker room last year compared to my high school. Wes has an ego. Love the dude, but the free agency "I'm worth $15M coming off a torn achilles" stuff brought it out. We all know Lamarsha compared himself to Dame, and when your top player has a fragile ego, it's a bad effect on the whole locker room. Sometimes Batum played like he didn't give a fuck, and who knew what was running through his mind.

This year's TEAM is a TEAM. That was evident with the San Diego trip and the pre training camp work they put in. They all play hard and you can tell that they gel in a way last year's team never did.
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Apples and oranges.

We don't need to know about your experiences on the chess club or "team". This is NBA basketball we're talking here.
 
BonesJones said:
On my high school team there was a lot of people who didn't have each others backs. Most were friends off the court so it seemed like we had a good locker room, but these dudes wouldn't support the other because of jealousy (the other guy was getting more minutes, touches, etc.). Everyone would compare themselves to others because their ego was too big, and it made for a bad locker room, even though it looked good on the surface.

Now in college, Ive experienced what it's like to be a part of an actual TEAM, one that supports each other and has each others backs, and is motivated me and makes me play harder because I don't want to let them down.

On the surface, they looked the same, but deep down, the locker rooms were drastically different. I think Portland's locker room last year compared to my high school. Wes has an ego. Love the dude, but the free agency "I'm worth $15M coming off a torn achilles" stuff brought it out. We all know Lamarsha compared himself to Dame, and when your top player has a fragile ego, it's a bad effect on the whole locker room. Sometimes Batum played like he didn't give a fuck, and who knew what was running through his mind.

This year's TEAM is a TEAM. That was evident with the San Diego trip and the pre training camp work they put in. They all play hard and you can tell that they gel in a way last year's team never did.
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I saw EXACTLY what you are talking about in the preseason but everyone said "it's just preseason." And I say you can tell if a team is playing as a team whether it's preseason or not, whether we win or not. But hardly anyone would listen to me.
 
BonesJones said:
just because it's a different level doesn't mean basketball players personalities can't mesh/clash in the same fashion...
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Totally get it. Totally agree.

But I have a rep as a sarcastic asshole that I must uphold.

No disrespect intended.
 
KingAlbertoJrSpeed said:
I saw EXACTLY what you are talking about in the preseason but everyone said "it's just preseason." And I say you can tell if a team is playing as a team whether it's preseason or not, whether we win or not. But hardly anyone would listen to me.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, none of the rest of us saw it coming but you.....that's why you're the King....Now see what you did? You made me go full MM on you. Shame on the both of us....
 
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