Dame for Simmons? (last poll, promise)

[Buffalo Custard]

Short memories.

There was a time people would have said Brandon Roy was irreplaceable. We lost him without getting anything in return, and still replaced him with this kid named Dame. It is amazing the good things that happen when a front office actually does its frickin' job!

Obviously, if our next GM is the type of smooth-bore numbskull who thinks Webster is better than Chris Paul - we're boned.

 

[julius]

What interfering mod added a redundant last category to the poll? Fuck you, start your own poll.

I did. It needed a simple "no" as an option. Don't like it? Go make another poll that everyone else loves.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I did. It needed a simple "no" as an option.

No it didn't. That's not your job. Butt out and don't get delusions of grandeur.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

So, you people who don't want to trade Dame: you know we're never going to contend with him at this point, right? You're just happy to keep him on a mediocre team until he breaks down?

 

[blazerkor]

So, you people who don't want to trade Dame: you know we're never going to contend with him at this point, right? You're just happy to keep him on a mediocre team until he breaks down?

Why is it that it's a foregone conclusion that we're never going to contend with Dame at this point. We have tradable assets and there is a potential superstar player on the block right now (Simmons) whose team reportedly offered to take CJ along with all of our future draft assets for him.

The point is that Dame and Norm are a really solid starting back court and there are going to be players that we can acquire and there is the possibility of young players developing into what we need to win a championship. There were obvious times around this point in Dirks career where people were saying the same shit.

 

[julius]

No it didn't. That's not your job. Butt out and don't get delusions of grandeur.

don't make me pay sly the 50 bucks.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Orion Bailey]

You've been looking at a team built around Dame at least since Aldridge left, and probably before. Do you like what you see?

more often than not if the construction isnt pleasing, its usually the constructors fault. Not the materials used during construction.

 

[Hoopguru]

New trade suggestion has Sixers moving Ben Simmons for C.J. McCollum

 

[1 Eye Jack]

No. Stop it. You don't trade a multi-time all-star and franchise leader/cornerstone and perhaps the most clutch player in the NBA in the last decade....for a player like Simmons. Would love to have Ben hear for a variety of other reasons....but not for Dame.

with 3 1st rounders and maybe one additional player?

 

[1 Eye Jack]

Nance has been a bit disappointing to me especially on the offensive side, he's very reluctant to shoot, drive or back in to the hoop.

Love Nances game, total team player who does pass up shots because he wants the best possible shot each position. Extremely unselfish

 

[Jon]

Dame gets traded, im done with this franchise. fuck that.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

with 3 1st rounders and maybe one additional player?

Btw would rather trade CJ but Dame still gets you a haul, and sets your franchise in great position for the future

 

[Rastapopoulos]

So, you people who don't want to trade Dame: you know we're never going to contend with him at this point, right? You're just happy to keep him on a mediocre team until he breaks down?

Well?

 

[Phatguysrule]

Not until we get a permanent GM and decide if we can compete. We're just a trade or two away from a balanced roster.

I'm ok with trading him if he wants to try winning elsewhere. But we should keep him until he makes that decision.

 

[Hoopguru]

Love Nances game, total team player who does pass up shots because he wants the best possible shot each position. Extremely unselfish

Yeah he’s a team player fir sure, just like to see him be more aggressive on offense.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Build a dominant defensive team.

Simmons and Dort would be my best-case scenario foundation for an iron curtain defense

 

[SheedSoNasty]

Also. Easiest poll question ever. Easiest time I've ever had saying no.

Said your wife last night. #BAM

 

[TBpup]

with 3 1st rounders and maybe one additional player?

Dame plus Embiid and Harris makes those Draft picks in the 20s and not worth much.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

Dame plus Embiid and Harris makes those Draft picks in the 20s and not worth much.

agreed not sure what other draft picks Philly might own? But yes If that’s best case probably not worth it

 

[Buffalo Custard]

New trade suggestion has Sixers moving Ben Simmons for C.J. McCollum

That trade is even less realistic now then it was before the season. Why would the Blazers want a player who claims he is unable to play because of crippling mental health issues? On the flip side, the 6ers barely were interested in CJ when he was still seen as a good and reasonably efficient scorer. Why would they want him in his new persona as a high volume/low efficiency gunner?

 

[Minstrel]

Why would the Blazers want a player who claims he is unable to play because of crippling mental health issues?

For the same reason that most/all teams wanted Kawhi Leonard who claimed he was unable to play because of crippling back issues. Because everyone knew he was lying to leverage a trade. Whether that's fair or ethical or moral is beside the question--the question most GMs will ask themselves is whether Simmons will make their team better, which all depends on what they have to give up. I don't think CJ will ever get it done, but I guess we'll see how all this resolves.

 

[blazerkor]

agreed not sure what other draft picks Philly might own? But yes If that’s best case probably not worth it

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

That's a really useful tool when wondering about where draft picks are going. Philly has no first rounders besides their own. I think based on a report that came out after Dame said he wasn't sure about his future, right before the Olympics... that we could get Ingram, Hayes and multiple first rounders from NOLA for Dame. I want to try and build around Dame and not trade him but if you went the rebuild rout you could take that trade from the Pelicans. Then you could take a pick or picks, package them with CJ and RoCo to the Sixers for Simmons and filler. You would get the best you could for Nurk.

Ant, Norm, Ingram, Simmons and Hayes with Larry, Nas and our vet min backups might be a better team than what we currently have but even if I could get it done, I'd like to try with Dame if he wants to.

 

[julius]

I would've voted "no", but it's gone. Weird.

 

[Buffalo Custard]

For the same reason that most/all teams wanted Kawhi Leonard who claimed he was unable to play because of crippling back issues. Because everyone knew he was lying to leverage a trade. Whether that's fair or ethical or moral is beside the question--the question most GMs will ask themselves is whether Simmons will make their team better, which all depends on what they have to give up. I don't think CJ will ever get it done, but I guess we'll see how all this resolves.

And if he is sandbagging the 6ers, why would you expect him to do something different with a new team? Toronto got very lucky.

 

[BonesJones]

Bad thread

 

[TBpup]

That trade is even less realistic now then it was before the season. Why would the Blazers want a player who claims he is unable to play because of crippling mental health issues? On the flip side, the 6ers barely were interested in CJ when he was still seen as a good and reasonably efficient scorer. Why would they want him in his new persona as a high volume/low efficiency gunner?

I get the feeling his 'mental health' will dramatically improve the moment he is traded.

 

[riverman]

no

 

[Buffalo Custard]

I get the feeling his 'mental health' will dramatically improve the moment he is traded.

I would be more concerned about his integrity.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Rasta rasta rasta…..