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BigGameDamian said:
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I'm a big Dame fan but that's just ridiculous

off the top of my head:

Wilt; Bill Russell; Rick Barry; Oscar Robertson; Jerry West; Kareem; Hakeem; Elgin Baylor; Bird; Magic; MJ, Dr. J; Gervin; Elvin Hayes; Moses Malone; Karl Malone; John Stockton; Shaq; Kobe; The Admiral; Tim Duncan; Rodman; Pippen; Barkley; Curry; Lebron; KG; Giannis; Jokic; Durant; Steve Nash; Nowitski; AD; Chris Paul

I might put Dame ahead of 3 or 4 of those guys, but that's about it, at most
 
Strenuus said:
Wasn't there a documentary about point shaving and all that happening before sports betting became mainstream?

But favoritism will always be a thing as long as monopolies have a stranglehold on the sports landscape.
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Boston college, ESPN did a 30 for 30 called playing for the mob.
 
wizenheimer said:
I'm a big Dame fan but that's just ridiculous

off the top of my head:

Wilt; Bill Russell; Rick Barry; Oscar Robertson; Jerry West; Kareem; Hakeem; Elgin Baylor; Bird; Magic; MJ, Dr. J; Gervin; Elvin Hayes; Moses Malone; Karl Malone; John Stockton; Shaq; Kobe; The Admiral; Tim Duncan; Rodman; Pippen; Barkley; Curry; Lebron; KG; Giannis; Jokic; Durant; Steve Nash; Nowitski; AD; Chris Paul

I might put Dame ahead of 3 or 4 of those guys, but that's about it, at most
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Yeah, maybe Reggie was talking about three point shooters and then I could see it. I think Dame deserved to be top 75 and I think he'd have a hard time making the top 50 team, I'm not saying he wouldn't make that team, I'm saying that would be a close call.
 
blazerkor said:
Yeah, maybe Reggie was talking about three point shooters and then I could see it. I think Dame deserved to be top 75 and I think he'd have a hard time making the top 50 team, I'm not saying he wouldn't make that team, I'm saying that would be a close call.
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Gotta see where his career ends up? Tough to make a call like that before he is done.
 
blazerkor said:
Yeah, maybe Reggie was talking about three point shooters and then I could see it. I think Dame deserved to be top 75 and I think he'd have a hard time making the top 50 team, I'm not saying he wouldn't make that team, I'm saying that would be a close call.
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Reading the comments on X, Reggie was talking about clutch players.
 
wizenheimer said:
I'm a big Dame fan but that's just ridiculous

off the top of my head:

Wilt; Bill Russell; Rick Barry; Oscar Robertson; Jerry West; Kareem; Hakeem; Elgin Baylor; Bird; Magic; MJ, Dr. J; Gervin; Elvin Hayes; Moses Malone; Karl Malone; John Stockton; Shaq; Kobe; The Admiral; Tim Duncan; Rodman; Pippen; Barkley; Curry; Lebron; KG; Giannis; Jokic; Durant; Steve Nash; Nowitski; AD; Chris Paul

I might put Dame ahead of 3 or 4 of those guys, but that's about it, at most
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It's hard and this is why I hate these lists. If Dame had been on a good team, like Steph, how many rings would he have and then where would he rank?
 
Natebishop3 said:
It's hard and this is why I hate these lists. If Dame had been on a good team, like Steph, how many rings would he have and then where would he rank?
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That's the LeBron path to championships. Steph took a different path and is a bad comparison. Klay, Draymond, Looney, GPII, etc., weren't supposed to be nearly that good, and Wiggins, Iggy, Livingston, Longley, etc., were reclamation projects.

Be it coaching, late-blooming players, the way the team gelled, or Steph's influence, they grew around Steph's style of play into a championship team. That never happened with Dame.
 
handiman said:
That's the LeBron path to championships. Steph took a different path and is a bad comparison. Klay, Draymond, Looney, GPII, etc., weren't supposed to be nearly that good, and Wiggins, Iggy, Livingston, Longley, etc., were reclamation projects.

Be it coaching, late-blooming players, the way the team gelled, or Steph's influence, they grew around Steph's style of play into a championship team. That never happened with Dame.
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You forgot the two championships out of four in which KD, not Steph, was the best player on "Steph's team".
 
blazerkor said:
You forgot the two championships out of four in which KD, not Steph, was the best player on "Steph's team".
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That's debatable. It was an established championship team, and Steph took a backseat to allow Durant to flourish. I'm not sure Durant even made them better, so much as he extended the peak window of the aging roster.
 
handiman said:
That's the LeBron path to championships. Steph took a different path and is a bad comparison. Klay, Draymond, Looney, GPII, etc., weren't supposed to be nearly that good, and Wiggins, Iggy, Livingston, Longley, etc., were reclamation projects.

Be it coaching, late-blooming players, the way the team gelled, or Steph's influence, they grew around Steph's style of play into a championship team. That never happened with Dame.
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We didn't have good enough basketball players. Simple as that. Too many one dimensional players.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but I heard that since Doc took over as coach the Bucks are 15-16.....horrible choice for a head coach ...all he ever did was ride Thibs and 4 superstars coattails to a ring but everywhere else he's been a flop. Really poor choice by the Bucks. They could get easily bounced in the first round and then the blame will fall on Dame's reputation more than likely
 
riverman said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I heard that since Doc took over as coach the Bucks are 15-16.....horrible choice for a head coach ...all he ever did was ride Thibs and 4 superstars coattails to a ring but everywhere else he's been a flop. Really poor choice by the Bucks. They could get easily bounced in the first round and then the blame will fall on Dame's reputation more than likely
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They actually signed him for 4 years also. Did they have to buy him out of other contracts to get him?
 
kjironman1 said:
They actually signed him for 4 years also. Did they have to buy him out of other contracts to get him?
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I'm sure they're going to be paying Griffin for a while now as well as Doc..they're not paying two guys to not coach so Doc will be safe would be my guess
 
riverman said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I heard that since Doc took over as coach the Bucks are 15-16.....horrible choice for a head coach ...all he ever did was ride Thibs and 4 superstars coattails to a ring but everywhere else he's been a flop. Really poor choice by the Bucks. They could get easily bounced in the first round and then the blame will fall on Dame's reputation more than likely
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To the surprise of nobody. It was a terrible hire and everyone knew it except the Bucks.
 
This place is tough to keep up with. Doc went from finally using Dame right, and even getting him to play defense, to being a terrible choice from the get go...
 
handiman said:
This place is tough to keep up with. Doc went from finally using Dame right, and even getting him to play defense, to being a terrible choice from the get go...
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it almost makes you wonder if posters have varying opinions or if it’s just one writer under the guise of countless monikers.
 
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