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Cugel said:
I really don't think the Bucks lost any sleep over losing a PRE-SEASON game. I for one could not care less about who wins or loses in PS or SL.
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Or anyones stats.

If people try to have any gotcha stats or "I TOLD YOU WE SHOULD HAVE PICKED HIM" from preseason stats... laugh at them.
 
Why is it when people put Dame over the haters come out -- get a life -- Blazers made a choice was it the right one or not -- who knows cause there are many factors in determining the answer to that question.

We all know I love Dame and a part of me wishes he was still here BUT I am not going to live in the past cause nothing good comes from it. All I can do is continue to be a fan of Dame and wish him the best as long as it's not against the Blazers -- PERIOD
 
kjironman1 said:
He's playing pretty well this year.
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Sure, 28ppg although only 30% 3pt isn't efficient.

But I'm not sure that Bucks roster is as good as a number of Blazer squads he was on. Who can defend anyone on that roster outside Giannis (who has a lot he must also do offensively). Blazers at least had Aminu/Harkless/Turner/etc types to cover for Dame/CJ.

Bucks have the same 1-3 record as the Blazers losing to horrible Bulls and Nets teams. Only win was over a 6ers team without PG13/Embiid.

I just don't see any way the Bucks can compete with Celtics, Knicks, Cavs, Magic, etc at the top of the east. Those teams also have some great scorers but a much better group defensively. The Bucks will be in a battle to avoid the playin.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Sure, 28ppg although only 30% 3pt isn't efficient.

But I'm not sure that Bucks roster is as good as a number of Blazer squads he was on. Who can defend anyone on that roster outside Giannis (who has a lot he must also do offensively). Blazers at least had Aminu/Harkless/Turner/etc types to cover for Dame/CJ.

Bucks have the same 1-3 record as the Blazers losing to horrible Bulls and Nets teams. Only win was over a 6ers team without PG13/Embiid.

I just don't see any way the Bucks can compete with Celtics, Knicks, Cavs, Magic, etc at the top of the east. Those teams also have some great scorers but a much better group defensively. The Bucks will be in a battle to avoid the playin.
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Lopez has been called a very good rim protector. Portis is a good defender when healthy as well as Middleton. PatCon is a good defender as well as Trent Jr. Not sure how you come up with no defenders? You couple all those guys with Giannis and you have a decent defense. They will be 6th seed or better is my bet.
 
kjironman1 said:
Lopez has been called a very good rim protector. Portis is a good defender when healthy as well as Middleton. PatCon is a good defender as well as Trent Jr. Not sure how you come up with no defenders? You couple all those guys with Giannis and you have a decent defense. They will be 6th seed or better is my bet.
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Middleton has not been good defensively in a number of years and has chronic injuries. He has not played a minute this season and is still not cleared for 5 on 5 contact while on a $32 million salary. Lopez and Portis are fine in drop coverage protecting the rim but I was talking about wing and permitter defense. Celtics have Tatum, Brown, and Jrue. The Knicks have Bridges, OG, and Hart. PatCon and Trent Jr are below average defenders and clear backup level players.

Yeah the Bucks might be a 6th seed. There is no way they will be the top seed with the Celtics/Knicks/Cavs/Magic/Pacers/6ers/Heat/etc all in that conference. A year ago the expectations were pretty damn different for the Bucks. I don't think todays Bucks team is at all close to what Dame or Blazer fans expected when he was traded to Giannis' squad.
 
kjironman1 said:
Lopez has been called a very good rim protector. Portis is a good defender when healthy as well as Middleton. PatCon is a good defender as well as Trent Jr. Not sure how you come up with no defenders? You couple all those guys with Giannis and you have a decent defense. They will be 6th seed or better is my bet.
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Bucks give up 40 in the first quarter to Memphis, that roster just can't play defense anymore in 2024-25
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Bucks give up 40 in the first quarter to Memphis, that roster just can't play defense anymore in 2024-25
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It's ironic that Damian on the Blazers current roster would be a really good roster for him.

Well, ironic isn't the right word. Frustrating.

(yes I know trades involving him included some of these players, shut up...)

Imagine him with Tou, DeAndre, DC, Rupert, Deni, Sharpe, Scoot and Simons....
 
julius said:
It's ironic that Damian on the Blazers current roster would be a really good roster for him.

Well, ironic isn't the right word. Frustrating.

(yes I know trades involving him included some of these players, shut up...)

Imagine him with Tou, DeAndre, DC, Rupert, Deni, Sharpe, Scoot and Simons....
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He looked really good that one game against Utah in Utah with Sharpe, Nurk, Thybulle, and a bunch of bench players.

Dame had 30 points and 12 assists in that game. There was no Simons or Grant.

 
SharpesTriumph said:
Bucks give up 40 in the first quarter to Memphis, that roster just can't play defense anymore in 2024-25
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Actually the problem isn’t that they can’t play defense it’s more that they missed 21 threes in the first half and that leads to fast break points.
Watching what is happening tells a different story.
 
kjironman1 said:
Actually the problem isn’t that they can’t play defense it’s more that they missed 21 threes in the first half and that leads to fast break points.
Watching what is happening tells a different story.
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21 threes?

Dayam.
 
julius said:
It's ironic that Damian on the Blazers current roster would be a really good roster for him.

Well, ironic isn't the right word. Frustrating.

(yes I know trades involving him included some of these players, shut up...)

Imagine him with Tou, DeAndre, DC, Rupert, Deni, Sharpe, Scoot and Simons....
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Let's trade Grant and Simons for him!
 
julius said:
It's ironic that Damian on the Blazers current roster would be a really good roster for him.

Well, ironic isn't the right word. Frustrating.

(yes I know trades involving him included some of these players, shut up...)

Imagine him with Tou, DeAndre, DC, Rupert, Deni, Sharpe, Scoot and Simons....
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and yet y'all think it's a tank team with Scoot instead. I really struggle to follow the logic of Blazer fans. Yes, Dame is a great scorer, but I think it's becoming somewhat apparent that he might not be the game changer y'all try to sell.
 
For me the goal is to compete for championships. Dame on this roster maybe makes it into the playoffs if everything goes perfectly but definitely not a contender and of course he's 34 and declining. I dont understand how thats what anyone is pining for

STOMP
 
bemac said:
and yet y'all think it's a tank team with Scoot instead. I really struggle to follow the logic of Blazer fans. Yes, Dame is a great scorer, but I think it's becoming somewhat apparent that he might not be the game changer y'all try to sell.
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Well not at his age now.
 
"This baby's over." Pete Pranica.

Bucks about to go to 1-4.

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bemac said:
and yet y'all think it's a tank team with Scoot instead. I really struggle to follow the logic of Blazer fans. Yes, Dame is a great scorer, but I think it's becoming somewhat apparent that he might not be the game changer y'all try to sell.
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I don't think anybody is serious about it. We'd need another star along with Dame. And he's just too old now to consider messing with our rebuild. I'd rather get picks if possible.
 
STOMP said:
For me the goal is to compete for championships. Dame on this roster maybe makes it into the playoffs if everything goes perfectly but definitely not a contender and of course he's 34 and declining. I dont understand how thats what anyone is pining for

STOMP
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Agreed.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I don't think anybody is serious about it. We'd need another star along with Dame. And he's just too old now to consider messing with our rebuild. I'd rather get picks if possible.
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Yeah, I sure as hell wasn't pining for him back on the team. I was just saying this roster would be good for him, as it's not undersized, and actually plays defense (not great defense, but defense non the less).

Can't shoot for shit (yet).

Let me be clear, I am not suggesting, hoping or wanting them to trade for him. If he ever returns to Portland as a player, it could only be as a free agent in 3 years, and at that point, he should be the backup.
 
kjironman1 said:
Actually the problem isn’t that they can’t play defense it’s more that they missed 21 threes in the first half and that leads to fast break points.
Watching what is happening tells a different story.
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Transition defense is a part of defense.

Before tonight Bucks were 24th in the NBA in defensive efficiency. But it was also a problem last year - they were only 19th in the NBA last year.

Season before Dame was there the Bucks were 4th in the NBA in defensive efficiency.

I don't think it was a coincidence the Bucks won a title with Jrue playing defense and the Celtics won the title with Jrue playing defense last season.

Dame is great in many ways. But it's very hard to build a title winning roster with such a limited short poor defender on a supermax contract. We're seeing that's the case even when he is paired with arguably the best player in the league.
 
What's up with Dame? Looks like he just doesn't give a shit.
 
Freshtown said:
Feel bad for dame. But controlling 3 years of bucks drafts at the end of this decade is starting to look great.
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Starting to??? Man I was stoked when the deal was announced just looking at the age of the Bucks roster and knowing how few of their picks they've got in the coming years to restock the shelves. I sure hope that the franchise has the patience to wait until that fruit is ripe and don't sell those assets pennies on the dollar.

STOMP
 
STOMP said:
Starting to??? Man I was stoked when the deal was announced just looking at the age of the Bucks roster and knowing how few of their picks they've got in the coming years to restock the shelves. I sure hope that the franchise has the patience to wait until that fruit is ripe and don't sell those assets pennies on the dollar.

STOMP
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Yeah that was the big part of the Deni trade I didn't like, that we sold the 2029 pick which could be as high as #2 overall.
 
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