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Again, the Bucks record is shitty but they just held their own against the Cavs in back to back games and it's early in the season. I think the Bucks will round into form and make the playoffs. For Dame's sake I wish they'd do more than just show up in the playoffs but that's likely all it will be.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
The first place team is 6.5 games ahead of them.
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Very gettable especially since the Bucks last two games were losses against that first place team that took them from 4.5 games back to 6.5 games back but I think the Bucks will likely end up a 5-8 seed in the East.
 
blazerkor said:
Very gettable especially since the Bucks last two games were losses against that first place team that took them from 4.5 games back to 6.5 games back but I think the Bucks will likely end up a 5-8 seed in the East.
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Already counting them out of top 4? They’re only 2.5 games out of 3rd.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Why not?
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Yes, why not?

The Bucks are going to have a hard time getting better through the draft, so might as well stink right now.

The Unprotected picks and swap owed to the Pelicans are from the Jrue Holiday trade. Then he is gone, and they owe more to the Blazers for getting Dame.

N0 1st round pick - 2025 1-4 goes to New Orleans. 5-30 goes to Brooklyn Nets (Blazers had this Nets portion briefly)
Swap - 2026 Pelicans can swap the pick
No 1st round pick - 2027 Pelicans own Buck's pick outright
Swap - 2028 Blazers can swap
No 1st round pick - 2029 Pick owned by Blazers, could go to Wizards too
Swap - 2030 Blazers can swap picks



Jrue Holiday was traded to the Milwaukee Bucks from the New Orleans Pelicans on November 16, 2020.

The trade included: Eric Bledsoe, George Hill, Draft-pick compensation, Three future first-round picks, and Pick swaps.

The Bucks gave up future assets in the deal, including: 2020 1st (via IND), 2024 right to swap 2025 1st unprotected, and 2026 right to swap 2027 1st unprotected.

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Holiday played for the Bucks from 2020 until he was traded to the Portland Trail Blazers in a three-way deal in September 2023. The Trail Blazers then traded Holiday to the Boston Celtics four days later.
 

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blazerfan11 said:
Yes, why not?

The Bucks are going to have a hard time getting better through the draft, so might as well stink right now.

The Unprotected picks and swap owed to the Pelicans are from the Jrue Holiday trade. Then he is gone, and they owe more to the Blazers for getting Dame.

N0 1st round pick - 2025 1-4 goes to New Orleans. 5-30 goes to Brooklyn Nets (Blazers had this Nets portion briefly)
Swap - 2026 Pelicans can swap the pick
No 1st round pick - Pelicans own Buck's pick outright
Swap - 2028 Blazers can swap
No 1st round pick - 2029 Pick owned by Blazers, could go to Wizards too
Swap - 2030 Blazers can swap picks



Jrue Holiday was traded to the Milwaukee Bucks from the New Orleans Pelicans on November 16, 2020.

The trade included: Eric Bledsoe, George Hill, Draft-pick compensation, Three future first-round picks, and Pick swaps.

The Bucks gave up future assets in the deal, including: 2020 1st (via IND), 2024 right to swap 2025 1st unprotected, and 2026 right to swap 2027 1st unprotected.

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Holiday played for the Bucks from 2020 until he was traded to the Portland Trail Blazers in a three-way deal in September 2023. The Trail Blazers then traded Holiday to the Boston Celtics four days later.
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I would take the kind of hell they look to be facing just to have ownership/management that takes the big swings that won that team and their fans a championship just four and a half years ago. They took another big swing with Dame and it doesn't seem like it's going to work out but at least they went for it.

We wouldn't commit to winning it all the entire time Dame was here after LaMarcus left and we're not even taking a big swing at a legit rebuild now that Dame is gone. Even if our team had tried to position us for a title run this season and were struggling like the Bucks are right now, I would be happier than I am right now with whatever the fuck our front office is doing. I'd just be happy that our team was scratching and clawing and doing everything they could to get us another title.
 
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CJ_is_Gone said:
But they can get a haul for Gainis
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Oh for sure. I'd think they will want New Orleans or us to be one of the teams in the deal to get some of their picks back.

The Deni trade makes that a bit harder as we can't simply send them their own pick back.

I just doubt they even consider trading Giannis until at least the summer at the earliest and most like 2 years from now.
 
Listening to the Duncd on prime podcast with Hollinger they were pretty happy with Dame performance. Biggest problems for the Bucks are

1 Getting zero production from SG as Gary Trent Jr has been horrific
2 Giannis defense and rim protection has had a big dropoff from prior years. The rest of the roster defensive issues were going to need Giannis D to be elite this year
3 Bobby Portis has declined
4 Offense has been less efficient than expected from role players
5 Very unathletic roster
 
Natebishop3 said:
Bucks fans think we are gonna take Portis for RWIII straight up. No thanks.
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No thanks, unless Portis is immediately sent elsewhere for value. I'd offer them this, however.

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Natebishop3 said:
They’re over the second apron. I’m not sure how the rules apply but aren’t they prevented from aggregating all salary?
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Yes, but it could technically be 3 separate transactions. Grant and Middleton, thybulle and Portis, and reath and Johnson.
 
Natebishop3 said:
They’re over the second apron. I’m not sure how the rules apply but aren’t they prevented from aggregating all salary?
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It's not aggregating salaries... Each of the Bucks player gets paid more than the corresponding Blazer.

Middleton > Grant
Portis > Thybulle
Johnson > Reath
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
It's not aggregating salaries... Each of the Bucks player gets paid more than the corresponding Blazer.

Middleton > Grant
Portis > Thybulle
Johnson > Reath
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I'm guessing that would put the Blazers over the tax line; or at least right on the edge
 
blazerkor said:
I would take the kind of hell they look to be facing just to have ownership/management that takes the big swings that won that team and their fans a championship just four and a half years ago. They took another big swing with Dame and it doesn't seem like it's going to work out but at least they went for it.

We wouldn't commit to winning it all the entire time Dame was here after LaMarcus left and we're not even taking a big swing at a legit rebuild now that Dame is gone. Even if our team had tried to position us for a title run this season and were struggling like the Bucks are right now, I would be happier than I am right now with whatever the fuck our front office is doing. I'd just be happy that our team was scratching and clawing and doing everything they could to get us another title.
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Bucks won 3.5 years ago.
 
blazerkor said:
Again, the Bucks record is shitty but they just held their own against the Cavs in back to back games and it's early in the season. I think the Bucks will round into form and make the playoffs. For Dame's sake I wish they'd do more than just show up in the playoffs but that's likely all it will be.
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Hopefully they blow that shit up so we get a really good draft pick in 2028 or whenever.
 
Strenuus said:
You really think grant is gonna get nothing on the trade market lol
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No one will give up a solid young prospect. I see him fetching a middle of the 1st round pick and an expiring contract.

Unless there’s a team that’s in win now mode and their window is short, they might overpay
 
Strenuus said:
You really think grant is gonna get nothing on the trade market lol
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2 years early cap relief on his contract, a 1st for a team that will be very old/rebuilding by then, and in a small market so no appeal to attract free agents, and a young recent 1st round pick. Would hardly say it's nothing.
 
So the Bucks have won 5 straight with wins against the Rockets, Bulls, Pacers, Hornets, and Heat.
Lillard doing what we all know he can do when asked to carry a team dismantling the Heat singlehandedly.
The Bucks are now back to .500 with a 9-9 record after a dismal start. They have responded by winning 7 of 8 after starting the season 2-8.

All this without Middleton who is still out after double ankle surgery over the summer. Word is Kris Middleton is back to playing 5 on 5 and should be back within the next few games. This is of primary concern after Giannis sat out last game with knee discomfort which might be just a rest game?
 
I’m new here, so I was just wondering….Do we have a thread for the new team of every former Blazer who demanded a trade and tanked his trade value, or just Dame?
 
MickZagger said:
No one will give up a solid young prospect. I see him fetching a middle of the 1st round pick and an expiring contract.

Unless there’s a team that’s in win now mode and their window is short, they might overpay
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Sounds good!
 
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