Dame makes 2nd team All NBA

[KeepOnRollin]

This year or all deferred? IOW: does it hurt our cap space?

12.5 spread over the length of his deal I am pretty sure. So like 2.5 a year.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Well deserved to be on one of the all NBA teams. I really thought Thompson would be second team though, so that surprised me a bit.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I don't understand the bonus structure. Does it count against the cap, and when?

 

[HolyBackboard]

So we have 2.5 less to spend this year? Not sweating it, but I want to make sure I'm reading this all correctly.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

So we have 2.5 less to spend this year? Not sweating it, but I want to make sure I'm reading this all correctly.

Yes. But I think Neil basically knew this was going to happen after the streak Dame went through directly following the All-Star Break.

 

[riverman]

Awesome to see this ...2nd team and above some really good players AND Lamarcus

 

[42N8Bounce]

The extra $2.5M added to next year's salaries will definitely have an effect if we plan on going after a max salaried player.

Considering all of the CAP holds, we have about $4.2M of space.
- Release Kaman, gives us $10.7M.
- Release Henderson, gives us $19.7M.
** The max for a 0-6 yr vet like Whiteside will be approximately $21.5M.
- Release Roberts, gives us $23.4M.
** The max for a 7-9 yr vet like Horford will be approximately $25.9M.
- There are minimum 12-man roster holds, so release Montero & Alexander (minimum) doesn't give us any extra room.
~ The only remaining non-guaranteed contracts/holds are Leonard ($7.7M), Harkless ($7.2M), and Crabbe ($2.7M).

Hopefully we have the opportunity to make those tough decisions this summer.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

The extra $2.5M added to next year's salaries will definitely have an effect if we plan on going after a max salaried player.

Considering all of the CAP holds, we have about $4.2M of space.
- Release Kaman, gives us $10.7M.
- Release Henderson, gives us $19.7M.
** The max for a 0-6 yr vet like Whiteside will be approximately $21.5M.
- Release Roberts, gives us $23.4M.
** The max for a 7-9 yr vet like Horford will be approximately $25.9M.
- There are minimum 12-man roster holds, so release Montero & Alexander (minimum) doesn't give us any extra room.
~ The only remaining non-guaranteed contracts/holds are Leonard ($7.7M), Harkless ($7.2M), and Crabbe ($2.7M).

Hopefully we have the opportunity to make those tough decisions this summer.

Really makes you think our target has always been a 0-6 Max Player, rather than a 7-9 or 10+ Max Player.

 

[julius]

Someone who isn't a butt-hurt 14-year-old girl?

It's kind of funny that you're the one who said that, because you either blindly love of blindly hate players like a irrational 14 year old girl at times.

 

[illmatic99]

The extra $2.5M added to next year's salaries will definitely have an effect if we plan on going after a max salaried player.

Considering all of the CAP holds, we have about $4.2M of space.
- Release Kaman, gives us $10.7M.
- Release Henderson, gives us $19.7M.
** The max for a 0-6 yr vet like Whiteside will be approximately $21.5M.
- Release Roberts, gives us $23.4M.
** The max for a 7-9 yr vet like Horford will be approximately $25.9M.
- There are minimum 12-man roster holds, so release Montero & Alexander (minimum) doesn't give us any extra room.
~ The only remaining non-guaranteed contracts/holds are Leonard ($7.7M), Harkless ($7.2M), and Crabbe ($2.7M).

Hopefully we have the opportunity to make those tough decisions this summer.

So releasing everyone but Meyers, Moe and AC gives us 23 mil of capspace.

Done deal.

Horford was a long shot to begin with. Dwight might be possible. Whiteside of course.

 

[julius]

So releasing everyone but Meyers, Moe and AC gives us 23 mil of capspace.

Done deal.

Horford was a long shot to begin with. Dwight might be possible. Whiteside of course.

Won't just signing them to reasonable contracts will free up $$ too? Cap holds are what, 150% of the contract they could get or some stupid shit?

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Won't just signing them to reasonable contracts will free up $$ too? Cap holds are what, 150% of the contract they could get or some stupid shit?

I think those numbers by @42N8Bounce above about 4 responses are cap holds. So only if you think Harkless and Leonard sign for less than 7 MIL right away. Crabbe is obviously getting way more than 2.7 so his hold is fine at that level.

 

[B-Roy]

Won't just signing them to reasonable contracts will free up $$ too? Cap holds are what, 150% of the contract they could get or some stupid shit?

Meyers is $7.5. Crabbe is $2.7. Harkless is $7.2.

Unless you see any of those guys getting lower contracts.....

 

[BlazerWookee]

It's kind of funny that you're the one who said that, because you either blindly love of blindly hate players like a irrational 14 year old girl at times.

I know, right?

 

[CommodoreG]

Congratulations, Damian! Second Team All-NBA! He's more than earned it!

 

[42N8Bounce]

Won't just signing them to reasonable contracts will free up $$ too? Cap holds are what, 150% of the contract they could get or some stupid shit?

That a possibility, but my guess is that with the insane amount of money out there, these guys will be getting at least their CAP holds.
Leonard's cap hold is $7,689,799. My guess is he'll get around $10M.
Harkless' cap hold is $7,235,148. My guess is he'll get around $8M.
Crabbe's cap hold is $2,725,003. My guess is he'll get around $8M.

There's a lot of teams out there with a lot of money to spend.

 

[e_blazer]

Just imagine what Dame could accomplish if he could perform at a level that Tunchi would find acceptable.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Really makes you think our target has always been a 0-6 Max Player, rather than a 7-9 or 10+ Max Player.

Wouldn't a 0-6 player fit in with our age curve anyway?

 

[Orion Bailey]

Really makes you think our target has always been a 0-6 Max Player, rather than a 7-9 or 10+ Max Player.

And Enter Whiteside....

 

[Strenuus]

Just imagine what Dame could accomplish if he could perform at a level that Tunchi would find acceptable.

It would still be better than Lowry, as demonstrated by the all team selections.

 

[42N8Bounce]

Wouldn't a 0-6 player fit in with our age curve anyway?

Yep. You're looking at guys like Whiteside (age 26), Biyombo (age 23), and Ezeli (age 26). Whiteside is really the only guy in that group I think justifies the max. Heck, Biyombo might get that with his recent playoff performance.

Woo hoo! Post 1,001. Now I'm officially a big time nerd like most of this group. It only took me since Dec 2011 to get this many posts. Now I can finally stop focusing on volume posting, and start focusing on only posting quality content.

 

[Blazer4ever]

My votes would be:
1st team
Steph, Russel, LBJ, Green, Cousins

2nd team
Dame, Kley, George, Milsap, Drummond

3rd team
Lowry, Derozan, Leonard, Durant, Duncan

 

[Mediocre Man]

Yep. You're looking at guys like Whiteside (age 26), Biyombo (age 23), and Ezeli (age 26). Whiteside is really the only guy in that group I think justifies the max. Heck, Biyombo might get that with his recent playoff performance.

Woo hoo! Post 1,001. Now I'm officially a big time nerd like most of this group. It only took me since Dec 2011 to get this many posts. Now I can finally stop focusing on volume posting, and start focusing on only posting quality content.

All of those guys would be a mistake at the max

 

[Mediocre Man]

My votes would be:
1st team
Steph, Russel, LBJ, Green, Cousins

2nd team
Dame, Kley, George, Milsap, Drummond

3rd team
Lowry, Derozan, Leonard, Durant, Duncan

LOL No Paul? He is easily the best 2 way PG guard in the league.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Wouldn't a 0-6 player fit in with our age curve anyway?

Yep; I'm secretly glad our budget situation doesn't really let us get over-excited and make some dumb move for an overpriced vet.

 

[Orion Bailey]

LOL No Paul? He is easily the best 2 way PG guard in the league.

Yeah, Im sorry, but as mich disdain I have for Paul he is hands down better than either Canadian player on that third team at the very least.

 

[Boob-No-More]

No Harden or AD.

Wow.

I think the All NBA voting is starting to reward team success, the way MVP voting always has. There isn't a single player on the three all NBA teams that didn't make the playoffs. I'm fine with that. HOU severely underachieved and a lot of that was Harden's lack of leadership, poor defense and inability to play nice with others.

It does beg the question, when was the last time a player finished 2nd in the league in scoring, but didn't even make 3rd team All NBA?

BNM

 

[KeepOnRollin]

I think the All NBA voting is starting to reward team success, the way MVP voting always has. There isn't a single player on the three all NBA teams that didn't make the playoffs. I'm fine with that. HOU severely underachieved and a lot of that was Harden's lack of leadership, poor defense and inability to play nice with others.

It does beg the question, when was the last time a player finished 2nd in the league in scoring, but didn't even make 3rd team All NBA?

BNM

DeMarcus Cousins?

 

[Mediocre Man]

I think the All NBA voting is starting to reward team success, the way MVP voting always has. There isn't a single player on the three all NBA teams that didn't make the playoffs. I'm fine with that. HOU severely underachieved and a lot of that was Harden's lack of leadership, poor defense and inability to play nice with others.

It does beg the question, when was the last time a player finished 2nd in the league in scoring, but didn't even make 3rd team All NBA?

BNM

Or the last time a healthy player didn't make the all-star team and was an NBA second team selection

 

[blue9]

There isn't a single player on the three all NBA teams that didn't make the playoffs.

[ahem] Cousins?