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I get your point but just for clarification Dame isn’t any of those players.

Dame is one of the best players in the league. Arguably top 5. He has done some things that are very special and if you put the right team around him he could be considered in the same breath as those other guys.
 
first...fans don't win championships nor have to shelf the chance that they may get another one in Dame's era....the thing about the superstars you listed....they all got calls....as to Lebron..he should have stayed with Cleveland......Tim Duncan....that's the guy I look up to as a role model in the sport. I'm a huge Damian Lillard fan....was never a Michael Jordan fan....I felt about him the way people feel about James Harden today....selfish asshole with a free ticket to the free throw line. Got nothing but ref love his whole career...I rooted for Stockton and Malone every finals against those Bulls if the Blazers weren't playing
To not like the guy is one thing, that’s fair. A lot of people didn’t like him. But to disrespect his career and compare him to James Harden? That’s laughable. This hot take gives us all we need to know about your basketball knowledge/credibility.

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The same guy who quit after winning 3 championships?
yeah...that guy....he had a lot of ref love along the way. He also started the trend of superstar kid's glove hoops....pay one guy a fortune and give 14 the scraps......I'm not a Jordan fan and that's not an argument to waste time on with me...screaming at refs in games and not getting ejected...traveling, palming the ball, handchecking....Jordan was allowed to do anything he wanted with a basketball...y'all can put him on a throne..I wouldn't. I like the team first guys. Chauncey Billups, Damian Lillard's of the league, Tim Duncans...not the Kobe's and MJs...it's all good. Everybody deals with the sport on their own levels of interest. I've never once cheered for Kobe or MJ to win an NBA game....never. Olympics....different story.
 
To not like the guy is one thing, that’s fair. A lot of people didn’t like him. But to disrespect his career and compare him to James Harden? That’s laughable. This hot take gives us all we need to know about your basketball knowledge/credibility.

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your hot take on my basketball knowledge and credibility? Have fun with that....I'm making no claims here..and I can disrespect MJ and Kobe in one sentence....Harden in another. It's not a test...it's a choice
 
You shouldn't. He's right. Dame is amazing, but his lack of pressure on the organization has built a culture of complacency.

Do you think Jordan would have just sat there while his team wasted his prime? Nope.

Do you think Kobe would have just sat there while his team wasted his prime? Nope.

Do you think LeBron would have just sat there while his team wasted his prime? Nope.

By Dame coming out and saying that he wants to retire here. That he's happy here. That he would be content not winning a title, there's zero pressure on Neil and the ownership.
I believe Jordan was famously pissed when the team traded away his friend Charles Oakley, in an attempt to improve the team.
 
yeah...that guy....he had a lot of ref love along the way. He also started the trend of superstar kid's glove hoops....pay one guy a fortune and give 14 the scraps......I'm not a Jordan fan and that's not an argument to waste time on with me...screaming at refs in games and not getting ejected...traveling, palming the ball, handchecking....Jordan was allowed to do anything he wanted with a basketball...y'all can put him on a throne..I wouldn't. I like the team first guys. Chauncey Billups, Damian Lillard's of the league, Tim Duncans...not the Kobe's and MJs...it's all good. Everybody deals with the sport on their own levels of interest. I've never once cheered for Kobe or MJ to win an NBA game....never. Olympics....different story.
Im not much of a Jordan fan but the dude won 6 rings. I could be biased against him and chalk it up to refs and all this and all that but the dude had the mentality of a winner.
 
Im not much of a Jordan fan but the dude won 6 rings. I could be biased against him and chalk it up to refs and all this and all that but the dude had the mentality of a winner.
I'm not obsessed at all with rings in the sport....I prefer community outreach, loyalty, character, integrity, mentorship, unselfish devoted franchise identities....Lebron's ring tours aren't helping the sport or respecting the kid in Cleveland with his jersey..nor Durant's ..it's all how you approach enjoying the sport. The Kings should have a championship and Kobe and Shaq one less ring apiece...Tim Donaghy proved that...now we have more parity than ever and to me...it's better for the game than the dynasty eras...I think we have a team you can cheer for but apparently I have no basketball knowledge or credibility...I also think high strung fans need high strung players and coaches to bond with....I like the even keel types more.
 
Didn't know that. That's unreal.
a lot more in that article about dame's mindset of late. the fact that it isn't stopping him from dominating on the court is a testament to his greatness. Had 38pts on the 2nd of a b2b in 37 mins last night.
 
Man..... I love Dame and this is a healthy way to look at life..... but this is the attitude that's keeping Stotts around.

 
I believe Jordan was famously pissed when the team traded away his friend Charles Oakley, in an attempt to improve the team.
An early indication of Jordan's "skills" as a GM.
 
Just think of Dame as the NBA's Barry Sanders (only hope he doesn't retire suddenly).
 
I did not know that Dame was also the owner and/or GM.
We don't have Paul pushing on the front office anymore, and it seems like Neil is content to just ride this out.

So without any pressure being applied from our superstar player, it's becoming clear why the team keeps tweaking instead of making wholesale changes to try to chase a ring.
 
I did not know that Dame was also the owner and/or GM.
Super Stars usually influence decisions. Stand back at a glance I think of how many huge super star moves have been made for various reason, in the last 5 years or so.
 
We don't have Paul pushing on the front office anymore, and it seems like Neil is content to just ride this out.

So without any pressure being applied from our superstar player, it's becoming clear why the team keeps tweaking instead of making wholesale changes to try to chase a ring.
That's Olshey and ownership, not Dame. Dame seems to view his job description as team captain to be unfailingly loyal to his team. So we can't have a GM that indulges his disdain for change.

I kind of want a list of moves that all of these superstars have pushed their teams into. Most of the time the superstar pulls that card and the whole thing ends up with the superstar getting traded.
 
That's Olshey and ownership, not Dame. Dame seems to view his job description as team captain to be unfailingly loyal to his team. So we can't have a GM that indulges his disdain for change.

I kind of want a list of moves that all of these superstars have pushed their teams into. Most of the time the superstar pulls that card and the whole thing ends up with the superstar getting traded.

I'm not saying throw a fit, but if Dame isn't applying pressure to win, the team won't feel any need to make big changes.
 
This loss and the way this season is going is straight on Dame's shoulders. His blase attitude about the state of the team and its mismatched pieces is destroying his mystique of being a "winner". Problem is, he doesn't care. He's comfortable. He's rich. He's a father. He's well respected around the league. But he'll never be a champion at this rate.
 
This loss and the way this season is going is straight on Dame's shoulders. His blase attitude about the state of the team and its mismatched pieces is destroying his mystique of being a "winner". Problem is, he doesn't care. He's comfortable. He's rich. He's a father. He's well respected around the league. But he'll never be a champion at this rate.
Dame is not the GM. Who cares what Dame thinks about the personnel in this organization? If Olshey is the answer to that question then he's got to go. It's really simple if Dame demands a trade because we get a coach and players that will actually help him contend then we go on record after the trade saying that we accommodated one of the best players we ever had. It would crush the image he has curated as being about the city and organization.

I actually don't think that is who Dame is. I've never read anything from anyone or heard Dame say anything that would make me believe that he has ultimatums in place that prevent this team from making the right moves. I do think he is incredibly loyal to his teammates and coaches... that's a good thing if you have a GM that makes the good decisions that he is being paid to make. Dame is being paid to lead the team and play individually at his best level... I think he does what he's supposed to in order to earn his supermax deal.
 
Dame has not been right since that guy landed on his knee a couple weeks ago. I am guessing there is more there than they are letting on.
 
This loss and the way this season is going is straight on Dame's shoulders. His blase attitude about the state of the team and its mismatched pieces is destroying his mystique of being a "winner". Problem is, he doesn't care. He's comfortable. He's rich. He's a father. He's well respected around the league. But he'll never be a champion at this rate.
One player was made available to the media — newcomer Norman Powell, who had 32 points. He said the Blazers momentarily made it a game only after Damian Lillard had some sharp words in a second-quarter huddle. Powell said Lillard was using words like “soft” to describe the Blazers’ defense and “getting punked” to describe what the Clippers were doing to them.

“I think him getting on us like that in the huddle motivated us, and we came out after that timeout and went on a run,” Powell said. “It shouldn’t take that, your star guy getting on us, we have to have that mindset at the start of the game.”

https://theathletic.com/2503055/202...uestions-after-embarrassing-loss-to-clippers/
 

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