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illmatic99 said:
you shoulda seen the pass he threw to KD on an inbounds play from the baseline last night. Went about 6 feet above Durant's head. I've never seen a PG this bad at alley oops.
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yeah he needs to improve his touch in general, his floater game is awful too.
 
illmatic99 said:
you shoulda seen the pass he threw to KD on an inbounds play from the baseline last night. Went about 6 feet above Durant's head. I've never seen a PG this bad at alley oops.
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Which is funny because I never considered Damon Stoudamire a great point guard, but he threw some nice lobs to Sheed. I think Andre Miller was the best lob thrower we have ever had.
 
illmatic99 said:
here's my logical read in all this in trying to sum up all the news/rumors/interviews.

1. Dame wants a legit chance to contend.
2. He wants to do it Portland.
3. He has been internally pressuring the FO to take more risks, but they have previously resisted (or haven't truly gone all in).
4. The way to address their conservative approach is to apply more pressure, this time through the media.
5. He realizes that has no leverage having signed a super max and is under contract for 4 more years.
6. He and his family are fully committed to the city and they can't simply uproot everyone (he bought his mom/dad houses, bought acres of land for a farm/compound of sorts, has a ton of cousins working in town in various professions, sister who went to and played at Lakeridge high school, brother who coaches football at Jefferson, fiance who started a business, etc, etc)
7. We know Dame is a family guy and will not want to be away from them, especially when he's about to get married and has three kids.
8. The one bullet he has to continue to keep the FO on its toes is hinting of a trade request/demand.
9. He can't fully back away and all out deny that if he wants to maintain a level of pressure.
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I agree with most of this.

I just think that Dame is nearing his breaking point with organization (ie Neil & Jody).
 
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Natebishop3 said:
Which is funny because I never considered Damon Stoudamire a great point guard, but he threw some nice lobs to Sheed. I think Andre Miller was the best lob thrower we have ever had.
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andre miller might be the best lob passer in nba history.

also, marcus camby was better at this than dame is.
 
illmatic99 said:
andre miller might be the best lob passer in nba history.

also, marcus camby was better at this than dame is.
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Man... I loved having Dre. I wanted him on this team since he was with Cleveland. It's too bad we got him at the twilight of his career.
 
blazerkor said:
If the rumor is true he referenced watching Giannis who plays most of his time at the 4.
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I thought he was reported to have said that about enjoying playing with Bam. I don’t think it was a rip in Nurk or a mandate to Olshey. Geez, every single thing Dame says or is reported to have said gets parsed into a million different points of view. No wonder he’s not saying much now.
 
e_blazer said:
I thought he was reported to have said that about enjoying playing with Bam. I don’t think it was a rip in Nurk or a mandate to Olshey. Geez, every single thing Dame says or is reported to have said gets parsed into a million different points of view. No wonder he’s not saying much now.
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I think parsing out every little hint we can is where a lot of us are at with this Dame situation. It was both watching Giannis and playing with Bam according to sources. I do think if he's made that desire known to Neil that Simmons fits the bill beautifully.
 
blazerkor said:
I think parsing out every little hint we can is where a lot of us are at with this Dame situation. It was both watching Giannis and playing with Bam according to sources. I do think if he's made that desire known to Neil that Simmons fits the bill beautifully.
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It's Henry Abbott's sources again, though. It's hard to take the hints seriously when they come from True Hoop, and that's where they keep coming from.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Roy had beef with anyone who took the ball out of his hands. I'm not nearly as in love with Roy as some people around here.
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I always thought it was short-sighted on Roy's part. Andre's ability to see the floor and take some of the ballhandling pressure off Brandon really could have complemented his game. It might even have given him an extra year of longevity. It certainly made the Blazers a tougher team. For as great a player as Brandon was, sometimes you have to understand when you give you get more back and learning to fit his game with Andre's would have benefited both of them.
 
PCmor7 said:
I always thought it was short-sighted on Roy's part. Andre's ability to see the floor and take some of the ballhandling pressure off Brandon really could have complemented his game. It might even have given him an extra year of longevity. It certainly made the Blazers a tougher team. For as great a player as Brandon was, sometimes you have to understand when you give you get more back and learning to fit his game with Andre's would have benefited both of them.
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Brandon just wanted a Steve Blake who would stand there and wait for him to pass him the ball so he could shoot. That's it.

And I remember reports that Brandon wasn't happy when we were feeding Oden in the post.
 
Has Woj ever picked up anything on what Abbott's saying? If he picked it up, I'd give it a little more credence.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Which is funny because I never considered Damon Stoudamire a great point guard, but he threw some nice lobs to Sheed. I think Andre Miller was the best lob thrower we have ever had.
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Our best lob passer was Camby. His lobs to Aldridge led the league one season. Sergio was good too. Esp his lobs from half court to Outlaw.
 
AmirIcon said:
Yet we have Blazer "fans" who keep retweeting and posting this garbage. It's called manufactured consent.

Stop contributing to this slow moving coup.
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Stop talking about a basketball team like it's some kind of government. The fans can be convinced of whatever by the media but that doesn't end in a coup. Also, the guy they keep posting has a pretty good resume and while he's shown to be wildly unreliable, it stands to reason that he's getting his information from somewhere so there may be things to glean from it.
 
Fez Forthright said:
What in the Sam Fuck does that even mean?
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I'd say in context of the tweet he's responding to, Dame's saying that it's obvious that he's not giving up game checks. As obvious as if you're going really fast in a car and hit traffic that you'll slow down.
 
julius said:
well remember, he drinks like a fish, so it stands to reason that he's not that cheap.
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He drinks like a fish? Ugh that's not good. It's not cigarette smoking bad, but it's not gonna help lengthen his career that's for sure. I hadn't heard this though I guess I've seen PLENTY of evidence he likes to party.
 
Idog1976 said:
He drinks like a fish? Ugh that's not good. It's not cigarette smoking bad, but it's not gonna help lengthen his career that's for sure. I hadn't heard this though I guess I've seen PLENTY of evidence he likes to party.
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It's a joke on here. Some people have said it but with all of his talk about his diet and hydration, there's no way he "drinks like a fish". I'm sure he likes to get tipsy every now and then but I very seriously doubt he has anything close to a problem that would hurt his longevity in the league.
 
blazerkor said:
It's a joke on here. Some people have said it but with all of his talk about his diet and hydration, there's no way he "drinks like a fish". I'm sure he likes to get tipsy every now and then but I very seriously doubt he has anything close to a problem that would hurt his longevity in the league.
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Ah OK thanks for that. I was remembering him partying for his birthday a year or two ago with arms around two women and champagne bottle in hand. I have similar pics from back in the day, but unlike Dame I probably couldn't "command a double team" the way he does. ;)
 
blazerkor said:
I think parsing out every little hint we can is where a lot of us are at with this Dame situation. It was both watching Giannis and playing with Bam according to sources. I do think if he's made that desire known to Neil that Simmons fits the bill beautifully.
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I would be completely unsurprised if we went after Jeremy Grant.
 
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