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Why the *edited* smiley face in the thread title? No offense BeerBoy!
 
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Odd that the author says Portland would only have Camby, LMA, Dante and Babbit in the frontcourt then a few paragraphs later says the Blazers would have 4 starting centers and have no need at all for Dampier....

I think it would be rare for all of our centers to be healthy, so I don't see any issues with having 4 when currently 2 of them are going to be out for months and all 3 have had extensive injury issues throughout their careers.

I'd be very happy to see the Blazers sign Dampier.
 
I wish we still had Juwan!!!!
 
While not the most mobile big man around, Dampier would be a better option than having to play Batum at power forward. Could he be signed to a contract that doesn't last the entire year?
 
HCP said:
Why are you glad he is gone? He was a great addition and helped us out big time last season. On and off the court!
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his basketball playing abilities, he's not very good anymore
 
Blazinaway said:
his basketball playing abilities, he's not very good anymore
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Were you watching last season? He was very big part of keeping this team together during December-February. He stepped up, can't deny that.
 
HCP said:
I wish we still had Juwan!!!!
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But we don't, so get over it.

We have to either waive or trade a player in order to make space for Dampier. I'm not sure they want to do that right now. LA will play more center and Cunningham will have to play more PF. They can make it work.
 
Dante has played really well so far.
 
HCP said:
Dante has played really well so far.
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Yep. I have really liked his game. He seems to always be in control, plays within himself and can bang well with the big guys. If we didn't have Batum, I'd groom him to be our starting SF.
 
holy shit. shoot me. i agree with hcp. in a sick and twisted way.... howard might have saved our season last year. i would love him back to for fill in duty with our fragile blazers.
 
MIXUM said:
holy shit. shoot me. i agree with hcp. in a sick and twisted way.... howard might have saved our season last year. i would love him back to for fill in duty with our fragile blazers.
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Nostradumbass strikes again?

Weren't the one that was responsible for these gems before:

"That might be the funniest line of the season because Howard is absolute garbage at thi spoint in his career"

http://sportstwo.com/threads/149980...-miss-Frye.-Howard-is-a-joke.?highlight=juwan
 
Re: Juwan Howard. There are two competing schools of thought on how best to measure a player's contribution (insofar as that is possible). One is the old-fashioned-boxscore method, of which a more sophisticated version is PER. Somebody has already pointed out that Howard's PER was terrible. Personally I prefer the +/- measure, because that would include the effect having that player on court has on the entire team, both on offense and defense. Well, Howard was even more terrible by that measure. On the other hand, he was a great guy and a great professional, and may have had a very positive effect on the young'uns. He also hit a couple of clutch jumpers.

But the Miami Heat are welcome to him.
 
+/- over the whole season seems like a good measure of contribution. Stats aside, watching the games I could see that Howard did almost nothing for us on offense, and he was absolutely terrible on defense. Couldn't guard a stick (without fouling it).
 
Using the "Blech-er Report" and referring to it as newsworthy is a bit like using wikipedia references in a scholarly article; it doesn't work.
 
I think Dampier is the best available free agent center on the market right now. The Blazers would be smart to sign him for the full season, and get an injury exemption (Pendergraph) to make it work under the salary cap rules (and maximum players on a roster rules).

Dampier is not a great player, especially at this point in his career, but he's a legit 7-footer, who knows how to play the game.

Juwan Howard, yeah, coulda shoulda woulda. He bailed the Blazers out big time last season, but he found someplace else he wanted to play, and I think he could be a stabilizing force in Miami.
 
If it were me, I'd sit Oden for the year, get an injury exception from the league, sign Dampier - and move forward.

If at some point (by Spring) Oden is seriously "healed" - then bring him back and waive someone.
 
BoomChakaLaka said:
If it were me, I'd sit Oden for the year, get an injury exception from the league, sign Dampier - and move forward.

If at some point (by Spring) Oden is seriously "healed" - then bring him back and waive someone.
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I hope you are being sarcastic.
 
Juwan Howard was terrible last year, exactly as expected. It's not like it's hard to get a living human to man the center position--you can get someone off the street. What's hard is getting someone to man the position who can play well. Howard didn't do that.
 
Anyone who says Juwan has lost his step just wasn't watching last season. We had SO many miracle wins with him and Aldridge our only big men.

Dampier is just a center, but Juwan can play both positions that we need.

As for his supposedly bad stats, let's see whether the substitute player we finally sign (for more money) does any better at stats. Put this year's Pendergraph or Cunningham in Howard's shoes last year and you'll see much worse stats. If his stats were so bad, who do you propose at $800,000 will have better stats?
 
Dante Cunningham for half the price.

Edit: I think it's actually 1/3rd the price, b/c the vet min is over 1.3M
 
jlprk said:
Put this year's Pendergraph or Cunningham in Howard's shoes last year and you'll see much worse stats. If his stats were so bad, who do you propose at $800,000 will have better stats?
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BrianFromWA said:
Dante Cunningham for half the price.
Edit: I think it's actually 1/3rd the price, b/c the vet min is over 1.3M
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Miami is paying Juwan $854,389 this season. Portland is paying Cunningham and Pendergraph $762,195. That's 89.2%, which is 2.68 times your 33.3%.

http://espn.go.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/mia/miami-heat
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/por/portland-trail-blazers

Let's see Cunningham or Pendergraph get Juwan's stats, even now as a 2nd year player, if either were in Juwan's shoes last year, as a forward having to start at center.

With his experience (16 years) and his raw talent (5th in the draft), Juwan Howard is 5 times the player Cunningham is. Cunningham and Pendergraph have to spend years learning how to play NBA-style to catch up to Juwan. They are scared deer caught in the headlights compared to Juwan. Without Howard we would have lost all those miracle wins and finished sub-.500.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Re: Juwan Howard. There are two competing schools of thought on how best to measure a player's contribution (insofar as that is possible). One is the old-fashioned-boxscore method, of which a more sophisticated version is PER. Somebody has already pointed out that Howard's PER was terrible. Personally I prefer the +/- measure, because that would include the effect having that player on court has on the entire team, both on offense and defense. Well, Howard was even more terrible by that measure. On the other hand, he was a great guy and a great professional, and may have had a very positive effect on the young'uns. He also hit a couple of clutch jumpers.

But the Miami Heat are welcome to him.
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your plus/minus and PER is way up with that post!
 
Whether some of you like it or not, Juwan hit some huge shots last year and played great D. And he will be missed OFF the floor as well. I'm bummed Pendergraph got hurt and am pumped the way Dante is bringin it in preseason. There, I'm done.
 
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