Danny Ferry......

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Even the guy defending Deng describes him in a derogatory way! He's not African American! He's BRITISH!
 
And I think we should be clear here: this is less racism than xenophobia on Ferry's part. He's slurring Africans rather than simply black people.

(Not that that makes it excusable.)

Also: is he describing Deng's GAME (i.e., it's not as good as it appears, or something like that) or his character? The latter would be pretty ridiculous, since he is universally regarded as a great guy. But the former would also be odd, if more understandable.
 
Paul Allen waited a year to interview for GM. His first interview was Danny Ferry. I forget whether that was at the start of the year or the end.
 
Ferry claims he was reading from a list of things said about Deng by people in the organization, not his own words.

FWIW

Seems to me he should have outed the guy who made the derogatory remarks.
 
Denny Crane said:
Ferry claims he was reading from a list of things said about Deng by people in the organization, not his own words.

FWIW

Seems to me he should have outed the guy who made the derogatory remarks.
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AND NOT READ OUT THE COMMENTS! Seriously, first of all, PROOF READ before you're in a conference call with your bosses. And second, even if you DIDN'T, when you get to those words don't you, y'know, STOP READING? And one of the bosses apparently gasped in shock - don't you at that point SAY SOMETHING, like, "yeah, that was inappropriate, wasn't it? I'll look into it."
 
Would it be just as racial if a black executive like say Billy King, called Birdman 'white trash'?

Just curious
 
Rastapopoulos said:
AND NOT READ OUT THE COMMENTS! Seriously, first of all, PROOF READ before you're in a conference call with your bosses. And second, even if you DIDN'T, when you get to those words don't you, y'know, STOP READING? And one of the bosses apparently gasped in shock - don't you at that point SAY SOMETHING, like, "yeah, that was inappropriate, wasn't it? I'll look into it."
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or at least say, several times "REMEMBER, these are NOT MY WORDS. I am reading them because I wanted to expose what some in our front office/group/whatever believes, and how we need to address that. THESE ARE NOT MY WORDS."
 
I believe Larry Bird once said that there aren't enough white guys in the NBA.
 
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MickZagger said:
Would it be just as racial if a black executive like say Billy King, called Birdman 'white trash'?

Just curious
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Many people would consider it understandable if you used harsher language on a felon than on a model citizen. This would be more akin to calling Pryz "white trash".
 
We stereotype here all the time. Whether we are talking about Euros, American born white bigs, or players from the universe of Syracuse.

I did not read the article but my first thought was the guy was just being detailed. Kind of like a personality advanced scouting report. Can where a player is from, be a factor if he will be content in a certain city?

I know I am personally down on drafting Spaniards. They have too many other options.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Many people would consider it understandable if you used harsher language on a felon than on a model citizen. This would be more akin to calling Pryz "white trash".
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Przybilla was kicked out of college.

I personally think that Qataris are overrated, but I ignore them and pick on spoiled Kuwaitis.
 
HCP said:
Maybe Bonzi Wells knew something we didn't!
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I forgot about that:

Then there was an incident while with the Blazers when Wells spit on Ferry, now the Cleveland Cavaliers’ president of basketball operations. Wells’ agent, William Phillips said part of that story always gets omitted.
“Ferry (allegedly) called him a (racist name),” Phillips said. “That part of it never gets reported. And Ferry becomes the president of basketball operations.
Ferry did not return a phone call to The Bee.
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RR7 said:
I still want it to be used more often to describe Steve Nash.
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Seriously though, how did a statement like "African American" become the go-to category for all black people? It seems extremely racist and insensitive to assume that anyone with dark skin is of African or of American descent. Patty Mills is a perfect example. As far as I can tell, the Aborigines were native to Australia, correct? So there's a guy who isn't of African or American descent, and yet I'm sure they would call him African American while he plays in the US. It's just so extremely ignorant.
 
I would call him a Native Australian, but what do i know?
 
Natebishop3 said:
It's amazing how horribly inaccurate "African American" is and yet it is still widely used.
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All Americans are African-American, as Africa is where the human species first resided on the planet.
 
I was thinking about that when I was next to a couple of the Timbers players the other day. Diego Chara is black as hell, but he's full blooded Columbian, and Donovan Rickets is from Jamaica. And I think officially Steve Nash is African-Canadian right?
 
HCP said:
I was thinking about that when I was next to a couple of the Timbers players the other day. Diego Chara is black as hell, but he's full blooded Columbian, and Donovan Rickets is from Jamaica. And I think officially Steve Nash is African-Canadian right?
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Something that I never used to think about until I was told differently is how some people from Mexico, Central America, South America, etc, do not like being called Hispanic. They want to be called Latino/Latina because they don't consider themselves Hispanic. I thought that was interesting and I had no idea that feeling existed.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Seriously though, how did a statement like "African American" become the go-to category for all black people? It seems extremely racist and insensitive to assume that anyone with dark skin is of African or of American descent. Patty Mills is a perfect example. As far as I can tell, the Aborigines were native to Australia, correct? So there's a guy who isn't of African or American descent, and yet I'm sure they would call him African American while he plays in the US. It's just so extremely ignorant.
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That's why I just say Black. Saying African-American is so dumb as 90+% of black people in America weren't born/will never go to Africa probably.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
That's why I just say Black. Saying African-American is so dumb as 90+% of black people in America weren't born/will never go to Africa probably.
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What it boils down to is that the media/corporations are so scared of offending someone, they will knowingly say the wrong thing because virtually nobody will get offended or raise a stink over being called African American. They might think it's stupid, but they're not going to call up the ACLU. Whereas there might still be some people who feel offended when they're called black. That's the best reason I can think of that it's still so widely used.
 
HCP said:
And I think officially Steve Nash is African-Canadian right?
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Canada is part of North America, so can still get away with calling him African American I think
 
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