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I am so sick of spanish fans bitching about nate!!!! SERGIO SUCKS ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE COULD NOT MAKE YOUR NATIONAL TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get a life! and I cant wait to he gets traded because he's going to play even less, beacuse HE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *edited* :biglaugh:
 
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He definitely isn't as good as they think he is. He is better than some give him credit for though. Overall, he is a below average player, imo.
 
Even if he sucks, he's still better than any other PG we have. He certainly deserves more PT. I hope he gets it somewhere.

And the Spanish National team is the second best in the world. Barely. And Sergio deserved to be on it ahead of Raul Lopez, that's for sure. It's just because he wasn't getting PT that he got left off.
 
Sergio is a decent PG in an up tempo game, but he bogs down running set offenses. He's a streaky shooter, poor defender and is barely a legit #2 PG. He has good court vision, but gets too fancy with his passe at times.
 
He's a great passer, but if he can't keep defenses honest with his shooting that negates his main asset. Teams just pack it in on him daring him to shoot. That's what he should be concern about, getting better at shooting the ball, just as Nate says rather than complaining about different styles.
 
Sergio isn't that good. I don't think he is that great of a passer. 3rd year player that declined. Right, its the coaches fault. Victor Kyrapa, Sergei Monia, and Sergio Rodriguez are all the same player. Gonna guess he is as good as gone.
 
I think Sergio's a great passer and overall a pretty good backup for a young guy. Overall I'm certainly happy that he's a Blazer, even if he's not ready to start on a good NBA team just yet.

Ed O.
 
Ed O said:
I think Sergio's a great passer and overall a pretty good backup for a young guy. Overall I'm certainly happy that he's a Blazer, even if he's not ready to start on a good NBA team just yet.

Ed O.
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Pretty delusional. To be a great passer, you have to do it when it means something, not when scrubs are on the floor. Sergio hasn't and can't do that.
 
I'm a fan of Spanish. It's a neat sounding language. But what does my being a fan of the Spanish language have to do with Sergio?
 
SnakeOiler said:
Pretty delusional. To be a great passer, you have to do it when it means something, not when scrubs are on the floor. Sergio hasn't and can't do that.
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Actually being able to make scrubs look good is even MORE impressive to me than being able to do it when superior offensive players are on the floor.

Ed O.
 
Sergio is more of a victim of the system Nate walks (Nate does not run anything)


Let's pretend D'Antoni was our coach instead of Nate. Sergio would be the most popular player on the roster. Look what he did to Duhon for crying out loud?

Sergio has a lot to work on, but if Nash were here Nate would tell him the same things he told Sergio. No, I am not comparing the two talentwise, but their games are similar other than Nash can shoot better.
 
This is coming from a poster whose username is Oden is God....
 
Mediocre Man said:
Sergio is more of a victim of the system Nate walks (Nate does not run anything)


Let's pretend D'Antoni was our coach instead of Nate. Sergio would be the most popular player on the roster. Look what he did to Duhon for crying out loud?

Sergio has a lot to work on, but if Nash were here Nate would tell him the same things he told Sergio. No, I am not comparing the two talentwise, but their games are similar other than Nash can shoot better.
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Which means Ds can't cheat on him without paying a price which makes him much more effective. That right there is a big difference and one of the main things that keeps Sergio on the bench.
 
Sergio has flashes of great play. Sadly it only happens a handful of times a season. I won't miss him.
 
i'd love to see sergio work on and develop a mid-range game. his 3 pt shot isn't good, but it was skewed pretty heavily on the # of heaves he took at the end of quarters. he does need to develop a somewhat consistant jumper to keep teams honest. and the second half of the season he was actually finishing around the basket at a pretty good rate.

to say that he is anything less than a great passer is assine and not worth reading.
 
So far the fans don't believe in Sergio. As of 5/11/09 at 8:35 his approval rating by our oregonian fans are horrible.
Stay 20% with 888 votes
Go 80% with 3506 votes
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I'll give Serg some credit, he made at least some improvement over his absolutely dreadful sophomore season and elevated his game to the 'mediocre' level this past year ... even if you were to factor out the few heaves he made at the end of quarters, his 3 point % suggests he should have been looking for a different shot, part of that can't be helped, because Nate likes his guards to be able to take catch and shoot jumpers; something that isn't really in Sergio's DNA.

I expect that in the right circumstances Sergio could be a productive player, and if he finds that situation I wouldn't be shocked if he becomes a solid 8th man at some point in his career, provided he at least makes marginal improvement to his jumper or at least develops some kind of tear drop or stop and pop shot.

The question of whether or not Sergio is undertalented or just a bad fit isn't easy to answer right now, but I expect we'll find out when he's traded to a team that theoritcally has need of his services.
 
ebott said:
Sergio does not suck.
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Yeah, he does.

Fundamental parts of the game include: shooting, defense, IQ.

Sergio lacks all three.

Maybe when they make basketball without a basket.
 
Nikolokolus said:
I'll give Serg some credit, he made at least some improvement over his absolutely dreadful sophomore season and elevated his game to the 'mediocre' level this past year ... even if you were to factor out the few heaves he made at the end of quarters, his 3 point % suggests he should have been looking for a different shot, part of that can't be helped, because Nate likes his guards to be able to take catch and shoot jumpers; something that isn't really in Sergio's DNA.
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I don't know how many last-second three pointer prayers he took this year (I would be fascinated to know) but I would bet that it was in double digits. Let's say it was 10. He only attempted 114 all year. If we assume he went
1-10, that means he shot 34.6% from three point range. Great? No. Better than his previous two years, where he was just a tick above 28 and 29 percent? Sure.

As for what Nate wants: I don't really care too much what he wants, personally. I look at a simple thing like free throws attempted and it's clear how much more pressure Sergio puts on a defense than Blake does.

Sergio, in 1225 minutes, made 61 of 77 free throws. Blake, in 2188 minutes, made 63 of 75.

Considering that Blake was able to shoot technical free throws occasionally, and that he was often in the game at the end when intentional fouls were committed, it becomes even more obvious between the two players' abilities to get to the line... and that is a critical component, IMO, of a team's success.

Another thing to consider? Sergio is younger NOW than Blake was when he played his first NBA game. Blake has been able to improve his game from benchwarmer to reasonable NBA starter in his time in the league, and Sergio should be expected to do the same... being in a big rush to run a 22 year-old point guard out of town just doesn't add up to me.

Ed O.
 
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I don't know how many last-second three pointer prayers he took this year (I would be fascinated to know) but I would bet that it was in double digits. Let's say it was 10. He only attempted 114 all year. If we assume he went
1-10, that means he shot 34.6% from three point range. Great? No. Better than his previous two years, where he was just a tick above 28 and 29 percent? Sure.

As for what Nate wants: I don't really care too much what he wants, personally. I look at a simple thing like free throws attempted and it's clear how much more pressure Sergio puts on a defense than Blake does.

Sergio, in 1225 minutes, made 61 of 77 free throws. Blake, in 2188 minutes, made 63 of 75.

Considering that Blake was able to shoot technical free throws occasionally, and that he was often in the game at the end when intentional fouls were committed, it becomes even more obvious between the two players' abilities to get to the line... and that is a critical component, IMO, of a team's success.
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Neither point guard puts much pressure on a defense; Sergio had a pretty pedestrian draw foul rate of 7% and Steve was absolutely horrid at 2%. On the surface you might say Sergio was three times better at drawing fouls than Steve, but three times better than god fucking awful is still nothing to crow about. (I'd put the line at somewhere around 10% for adequate-to-good).

Another thing to consider? Sergio is younger NOW than Blake was when he played his first NBA game. Blake has been able to improve his game from benchwarmer to reasonable NBA starter in his time in the league, and Sergio should be expected to do the same... being in a big rush to run a 22 year-old point guard out of town just doesn't add up to me.

Ed O.
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I'm not in a big hurry to run Sergio out of town, but I think the writing is pretty clearly on the wall that his playing days here are done. Part of Sergio's problem is Nate's system and the other is the fact that he doesn't seem to play all that well with Brandon, to me that means he'd probably be completely adequate as a 10-15 minute backup point guard, but until and unless Nate and Brandon are out of the picture he's never going to get the minutes and role that he wants.
 
I have always been a supporter of Sergio and I think he still has tons of potential. He is very exciting and fun to watch. He has improved his defense and shooting (slighlty) the last 2 years........but......unfortunatly he will never get the oportunity to blossom and reach his potential in Nates system. Nate is a VERY controling coach and I think watching Sergio run the offense with his near wild, high risk/reward, seeming out-of-control style must feel like someone is dancing on Nates nerves with golf spikes on. He is just extreamely reluctant to give Sergio a legitimate chance to play.

When Blake was out for that streach of games early in the year, Sergio finally got some REAL play time and I though did pretty well. Made some mistakes and had some invisible games, but it really looked like he got more and more comfortable and steady as the games went on......unfortunatly, Bayless started getting more and more minutes as well, some times more than Sergio, due again to Nates "fear" of Sergios style.

Guess we will never know....until he is playing elswhere of course.
 
Nikolokolus said:
I'm not in a big hurry to run Sergio out of town, but I think the writing is pretty clearly on the wall that his playing days here are done. Part of Sergio's problem is Nate's system and the other is the fact that he doesn't seem to play all that well with Brandon, to me that means he'd probably be completely adequate as a 10-15 minute backup point guard, but until and unless Nate and Brandon are out of the picture he's never going to get the minutes and role that he wants.
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I didn't mean to imply that you wanted him out of town... as I was responding to your post and putting that last bit in I had thought that it might look like I was.

I tend to agree with you that he's a bad fit in Portland, but I'd rather have the system change a bit to give him a chance to succeed than give him away.

Ed O.
 
SERGIO IS GARBAGE AND WILL BE OUT OF THE NBA AFTER NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DUDE LACKS EVERYTHING YOU WOULD WANT IN A CHAMPIONSHIP POINT GUARD!
 
ODENISGOD said:
SERGIO IS GARBAGE AND WILL BE OUT OF THE NBA AFTER NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DUDE LACKS EVERYTHING YOU WOULD WANT IN A CHAMPIONSHIP POINT GUARD!
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Pretty harsh for somoene who is a jump shot away from being Steve Nash. If he get's one close to that he will be a very good starter on an uptempo team.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Pretty harsh for somoene who is a jump shot away from being Steve Nash. If he get's one close to that he will be a very good starter on an uptempo team.
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And, as much as we might be adding to the Jermaine O'Neal/Chauncey Billups "exception prototypes", one only need look as far as Jose Calderon in terms of a guy discovering a perimeter jumper.

Calderon didn't shoot well from downtown until his third NBA season (when he was 26).

Does this mean Sergio WILL be a good/great shooter someday? No. Does it mean that it's POSSIBLE? Sure.

Ed O.
 
Ed O said:
And, as much as we might be adding to the Jermaine O'Neal/Chauncey Billups "exception prototypes", one only need look as far as Jose Calderon in terms of a guy discovering a perimeter jumper.

Calderon didn't shoot well from downtown until his third NBA season (when he was 26).

Does this mean Sergio WILL be a good/great shooter someday? No. Does it mean that it's POSSIBLE? Sure.

Ed O.
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I thnk a lot of people forget how uber young Sergio is.
 
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