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blue32 said:
It's cute you think it's cute. It's not about Trump kool-aid, it's about common sense here. You don't have it on this subject, others do. Oh well. Hopefully next time you're listening to your iPhone and gangsta rap comes on talkin' about smacking bitches n' ho's you'll understand the hypocrisy of this all.
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If a rapper runs for president I expect his lyrics to be fair game. But to make the argument that CJ can't saying anything about Trump's statements because he listens to rap is silly.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
If a rapper runs for president I expect his lyrics to be fair game. But to make the argument that CJ can't saying anything about Trump's statements because he listens to rap is silly.
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I was only calling out the hypocrisy of people speaking out against such "terrible" words, when many people party/dance to them like its 1999.

To take it one step further, like Trump said and some of you guys apparently agree with, "Words are just words".

But actions are a whole different ball game. So, can we focus on the women that were threatened by Clinton to hush while her husband was in office? I feel like that's an important issue to bring up.
 
blue32 said:
But actions are a whole different ball game. So, can we focus on the women that were threatened by Clinton to hush while her husband was in office? I feel like that's an important issue to bring up.
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Do you think that those women are terrible and that Bill is a victim?
 
blue32 said:
Nice try.
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Over the weekend, Donald Trump has called former President Bill Clinton an abuser of women and Hillary Clinton a bully who intimidated his victims.

But if you rewind to 1998, the Republican presidential nominee had a very different view of the 42nd president, defending him as the real "victim" in the wake of the fallout of the Monica Lewinsky scandal and blasting the accusers as "terrible" and "unattractive."

He also suggested that Clinton should have kept the scandal -- which he said "should have been nothing -- to himself."

Days after President Clinton admitted to having an inappropriate relationship with former White House intern Monica Lewinsky, Trump said Clinton was a “victim” and critiqued the physical appearances of various women with whom Clinton had been accused of having extramarital relations at different times.

“It’s like it's from hell, it's a terrible group of people,” Trump said in an interview with FOX News' Neil Cavuto on Aug. 19, 1998.

Asked by Cavuto if Clinton’s image as a “quasi-sex symbol” stood to somehow benefit from the alleged extramarital relations, Trump took issue with the characterization.

“I don't necessarily agree with his victims, his victims are terrible,” Trump said. “He is really a victim himself. But he put himself in that position.”

“The whole group, Paula Jones, Lewinsky, it's just a really unattractive group. I'm not just talking about physical," he said.

“Would it be any different if it were a supermodel crowd?” Cavuto then asked.

“I think at least it would be more pleasant to watch,” Trump replied.

Trump suggested that Clinton could have avoided the public relations fallout that followed his admission of "inappropriate" relations with Lewinsky had he stayed silent on the topic altogether, rather than initially denying the reports of an sexual relations only to later admit to a relationship.

“It's a shame, it's really a shame,” Trump said. “I've watched all my life politicians in New York, something gets brought up on them. I don't talk about my personal life. So what are you going to do? I don't talk about personal life.”

“They've taken nothing and made it a big monster,” Trump said in reference to the Lewinsky scandal. “I mean they've made Watergate out of really what should've been nothing.”

“I don't know if that's a good thing in terms of what Starr has done or a terrible thing, I think it's a terrible thing, actually,” Trump added, presumably referring to the former Whitewater independent counsel who expanded his investigation into the Lewinsky affair.

As far as his personal opinion of Clinton, Trump gave Clinton a strong rating.

“I think he's terrific. I think the guy's terrific. I just hate the way he tried to get out of this mess,” Trump said.

“In terms of myself, I love him as a president because business has been great, the economy's been booming. We have to give him credit,” he said.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/flas...-clintons-accusers-terrible/story?id=42686582
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Over the weekend, Donald Trump has called former President Bill Clinton an abuser of women and Hillary Clinton a bully who intimidated his victims.

But if you rewind to 1998, the Republican presidential nominee had a very different view of the 42nd president, defending him as the real "victim" in the wake of the fallout of the Monica Lewinsky scandal and blasting the accusers as "terrible" and "unattractive."

He also suggested that Clinton should have kept the scandal -- which he said "should have been nothing -- to himself."

Days after President Clinton admitted to having an inappropriate relationship with former White House intern Monica Lewinsky, Trump said Clinton was a “victim” and critiqued the physical appearances of various women with whom Clinton had been accused of having extramarital relations at different times.

“It’s like it's from hell, it's a terrible group of people,” Trump said in an interview with FOX News' Neil Cavuto on Aug. 19, 1998.

Asked by Cavuto if Clinton’s image as a “quasi-sex symbol” stood to somehow benefit from the alleged extramarital relations, Trump took issue with the characterization.

“I don't necessarily agree with his victims, his victims are terrible,” Trump said. “He is really a victim himself. But he put himself in that position.”

“The whole group, Paula Jones, Lewinsky, it's just a really unattractive group. I'm not just talking about physical," he said.

“Would it be any different if it were a supermodel crowd?” Cavuto then asked.

“I think at least it would be more pleasant to watch,” Trump replied.

Trump suggested that Clinton could have avoided the public relations fallout that followed his admission of "inappropriate" relations with Lewinsky had he stayed silent on the topic altogether, rather than initially denying the reports of an sexual relations only to later admit to a relationship.

“It's a shame, it's really a shame,” Trump said. “I've watched all my life politicians in New York, something gets brought up on them. I don't talk about my personal life. So what are you going to do? I don't talk about personal life.”

“They've taken nothing and made it a big monster,” Trump said in reference to the Lewinsky scandal. “I mean they've made Watergate out of really what should've been nothing.”

“I don't know if that's a good thing in terms of what Starr has done or a terrible thing, I think it's a terrible thing, actually,” Trump added, presumably referring to the former Whitewater independent counsel who expanded his investigation into the Lewinsky affair.

As far as his personal opinion of Clinton, Trump gave Clinton a strong rating.

“I think he's terrific. I think the guy's terrific. I just hate the way he tried to get out of this mess,” Trump said.

“In terms of myself, I love him as a president because business has been great, the economy's been booming. We have to give him credit,” he said.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/flas...-clintons-accusers-terrible/story?id=42686582
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Oh I'm sure you were just salivating with that in your copy paste buffer.... Does it change the fact of what we were originally talking about, in regards to Trumps tape, and the left's hypocrisy with it?

Or are you just going to bring up shit from the 90's?

Typical, with you. Find yourself in a corner and deflect out to something else.
 
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blue32 said:
It's just stupid because real people know what really goes on and this is just men being men; we're fucking vulgar that's how we are.
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Speak for yourself. I feel sorry for any women who have had the unfortunate displeasure of experiencing your backwards viewpoint.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
Speak for yourself. I feel sorry for any women who have had the unfortunate displeasure of experiencing your backwards viewpoint.
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I'm so sorry you disagree with me. I guess SlyPokerDog can go back to his Convent now, while the real world spins outside..
 
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"It’s hard for me to gauge what would happen if Mr. Trump were to lose. I think it’s more likely he’ll lose than not. If he were to win, I think my party would be particularly troubled between those who were strong supporters of Mr. Trump and a smaller number at that stage who would be wanting to go in a different direction. But if he were to lose, then I think there are going to be many, many people who still carry his banner — a banner, if you will, of anger, resentment, wanting dramatic change, different policies on immigration and trade than we have typically adopted as a party versus those who are the traditional, more mainstream Republicans. Whether they can come back together again or not is a darn good question. I happen to think that for that to happen requires a person of unusual skill: a Churchill, an Eisenhower, an individual who’s able to step forward, a Reagan, who’s able to step forward and bring people together."

"I don’t know that we will see that person in 2020 or in the months leading up to that,” he said. “But absent that kind of leadership, I think it will be very difficult for the Humpty Dumpty to be put back together again." - Romney

Ha! That'll be the day.
 
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