Decision Time On Options for CJ, Meyers and T-Rob

[Wizard Mentor]

salary will go way up in the next couple of years. I'd probably sign them all.

 

[blue32]

Id like to see CJ and TRob, no to Meyers.

 

[BBert]

LOL. The Blazers aren't giving up on Meyers or CJ, as some of you would like. And neither would I. I don't know if that means they extend them or wait but it probably means they hedge their bets and extend them for a bargain price. I would. We'll see.

 

[PDXFonz]

This means T-Rob will be an unrestricted free agent. Which doesn't mean he won't re-sign here in Portland. He will have teams after him willing to pay him more, but most (if not all) of those teams will likely be non playoff fringe teams looking to get to the next level.

I predict T-Rob stays in Portland.

 

[PDXFonz]

LOL. The Blazers aren't giving up on Meyers or CJ, as some of you would like. And neither would I. I don't know if that means they extend them or wait but it probably means they hedge their bets and extend them for a bargain price. I would. We'll see.

Meyers actually has the potential to be a decent spread 5. He could easily turn out to be a poor mans spencer hawes, hes got the hair for it too.

 

[magnifier661]

Meyers is a joke. He has the ability to shoot the ball and be a spread 5 like others mentioned. But what everyone fails to acknowledge is his lack of effort on the defensive end. He is always late for the rebound, never boxes out and is usually always getting beat.

At least Hawes, Frye and other stretch players can fucking box out!

 

[Blazer4ever]

T-Rob - Keep
CJ - meh
Leonard - let go

 

[BlazerWookee]

Meyers is a joke. He has the ability to shoot the ball and be a spread 5 like others mentioned. But what everyone fails to acknowledge is his lack of effort on the defensive end. He is always late for the rebound, never boxes out and is usually always getting beat.

At least Hawes, Frye and other stretch players can fucking box out!

Lack of effort? I couldn't disagree more. He may not do the right thing very well, and usually he's trying to do the wrong thing, but he sure as hell tries hard...

 

[magnifier661]

Lack of effort? I couldn't disagree more. He may not do the right thing very well, and usually he's trying to do the wrong thing, but he sure as hell tries hard...

Fuck well that's even more disheartening then! If he's trying hard and sucking this bad, the ship has sunk! I was giving him the benefit of doubt, blaming this on effort.

This only further supports my argument that Leonard is a lost cause

 

[Blazer4ever]

I'm with Mags.
Nothing against Meyers personally, he's a real nice kid, but he just doesn't get it and it seems like he never will.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Fuck well that's even more disheartening then! If he's trying hard and sucking this bad, the ship has sunk! I was giving him the benefit of doubt, blaming this on effort.

This only further supports my argument that Leonard is a lost cause

Did you watch the L*ker game, mags? Admittedly I didn't watch a lot of it, but in a short stretch I saw him hit a 3 in the flow of the offense, force a miss by staying straight up on defense and moving his body well, block a posterizing dunk attempt so that the ball stuck between the rim and the backboard, battle for a rebound and tipping it to a teammate on the third leaping attempt, set a competent screen in transition, and make a quick, sharp, and accurate swing pass that would count as a hockey assist. In that same stretch of time, I only noticed two mistakes, a really REALLY poorly-timed leap at a jump ball (more the ref's fault than his, but just barely), and a late rotation on D because he got caught with his head turned the wrong way.

Can you honestly say, without hyperbole, that you can't see any improvement?

 

[kjironman1]

Did you watch the L*ker game, mags? Admittedly I didn't watch a lot of it, but in a short stretch I saw him hit a 3 in the flow of the offense, force a miss by staying straight up on defense and moving his body well, block a posterizing dunk attempt so that the ball stuck between the rim and the backboard, battle for a rebound and tipping it to a teammate on the third leaping attempt, set a competent screen in transition, and make a quick, sharp, and accurate swing pass that would count as a hockey assist. In that same stretch of time, I only noticed two mistakes, a really REALLY poorly-timed leap at a jump ball (more the ref's fault than his, but just barely), and a late rotation on D because he got caught with his head turned the wrong way.

Can you honestly say, without hyperbole, that you can't see any improvement?

Watch the highlights of the Laker game right here. You will see Leonard hit not one, not two but three treys and move very well. But as has been said. This is preseason.
http://www.nba.com/blazers/?ls=iref:nba:gnav

 

[Blazer4ever]

His BBall IQ is the worst I've ever seen.

 

[magnifier661]

Did you watch the L*ker game, mags? Admittedly I didn't watch a lot of it, but in a short stretch I saw him hit a 3 in the flow of the offense, force a miss by staying straight up on defense and moving his body well, block a posterizing dunk attempt so that the ball stuck between the rim and the backboard, battle for a rebound and tipping it to a teammate on the third leaping attempt, set a competent screen in transition, and make a quick, sharp, and accurate swing pass that would count as a hockey assist. In that same stretch of time, I only noticed two mistakes, a really REALLY poorly-timed leap at a jump ball (more the ref's fault than his, but just barely), and a late rotation on D because he got caught with his head turned the wrong way.

Can you honestly say, without hyperbole, that you can't see any improvement?

Hitting threes does not impress me for our center. I want our center to protect the paint and get rebounds. I guess I'm old school like that.

Leonard will never be a center I support until he rebounds, boxes out and makes a much better effort defensively

 

[Hobbesarable]

Hitting threes does not impress me for our center. I want our center to protect the paint and get rebounds. I guess I'm old school like that.

Leonard will never be a center I support until he rebounds, boxes out and makes a much better effort defensively

I have to agree with Wookee on the effort. The kid gives effort, but he doesn't know where he needs to be on the court, especially on defense.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Spencer Hawes spent four years being terrible in Sacramento, with tons of PT, before he became a legit NBA player. To suggest that Leonard is definitively a lost cause at this stage of his career is silly.

 

[BlazerWookee]

His BBall IQ is the worst I've ever seen.

Then you never saw Ha play...

 

[magnifier661]

Spencer Hawes spent four years being terrible in Sacramento, with tons of PT, before he became a legit NBA player. To suggest that Leonard is definitively a lost cause at this stage of his career is silly.

Then I'm silly. Have him develop somewhere else. At this stage, I would rather have Freeland than Leonard. At least freeland boxes out, rebounds and makes a valiant effort defensively.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Then I'm silly. Have him develop somewhere else. At this stage, I would rather have Freeland than Leonard. At least freeland boxes out, rebounds and makes a valiant effort defensively.

There's a difference between "he'll never be a player" and "we don't have the time to wait for him" . The former is premature; the latter is reasonable.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Spencer Hawes spent four years being terrible in Sacramento, with tons of PT, before he became a legit NBA player. To suggest that Leonard is definitively a lost cause at this stage of his career is silly.

Bias, you're comparing him to an NBA player. Compare him to DLeaguers or hey, anyone on these boards. GMs have spoken and we're all lost (NBA player) causes. Hell, there are billions of lost causes on this planet. Leonard doesn't deserve to be categorized as an obvious NBA player. That being said, I'm sticking to my previous theory that he should be allowed to play out his contract and give him a new 2-year league MINIMUM contract with the accompanying roster spot. If he doesn't improve by then, dump him.

 

[barfo]

Robinson makes his fare share of mistakes.

That made me laugh.

barfo

 

[MARIS61]

Meyers Leonard will lead his team to a Championship title one day.

His prime years are nearly a decade away, only an absolute moron would allow another team a shot at stealing him.

That bears repeating, only an absolute moron would allow another team a shot at stealing him.

 

[magnifier661]

There's a difference between "he'll never be a player" and "we don't have the time to wait for him" . The former is premature; the latter is reasonable.

Well this is what I've said

Hitting threes does not impress me for our center. I want our center to protect the paint and get rebounds. I guess I'm old school like that.

Leonard will never be a center I support until he rebounds, boxes out and makes a much better effort defensively

As a Blazer fan, I've seen this "wait he's got promise, he's got a perfect NBA body" way too many times. This will be his third season with very little "defensive improvement".

Then this surfer kid decides, hey I want to shoot threes because it's cool! Fuck that shit! I'm tired of soft. Leave that to our wings. I want a bruiser 7 footer. We already got our perimeter forward in Aldridge anyway.

 

[magnifier661]

Meyers Leonard will lead his team to a Championship title one day.

His prime years are nearly a decade away, only an absolute moron would allow another team a shot at stealing him.

That bears repeating, only an absolute moron would allow another team a shot at stealing him.

Then I'm a moron. I'll be bumping this thread when Meyers is rotting on some bench in China

 

[Sinobas]

Meyers will never be that guy. He's a stretch 4. I would not extend him though. The only reason to extend a guy is if you are fairly certain you want to retain him and he'd demand more money. Don't see either T-Rob or Meyers warranting that. This will give us another year to see how they develop.

 

[andalusian]

Meyers Leonard will lead his team to a Championship title one day.

Is this the Real Madrid forums, becauseI am almost certain we had this discussion about a young lad named sergio before.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

The only reason to extend a guy is if you are fairly certain you want to retain him and he'd demand more money.

No. Another reason to extend him would be to retain him as a trade asset for this coming off-season.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I predict that CJ (obviously) and Leo's options are picked up and T-Rob is shopped.

 

[Sinobas]

No. Another reason to extend him would be to retain him as a trade asset for this coming off-season.

If he ain't worth the price his trade value wouldn't be worth much.

 

[Schilly]

Amazingly most NBA GMs actually value guys of Meyer's size athleticism and age... even if they are raw and a reach. Look at Hasheem Thabeet. He was more worthless than Meyers and still getting contracts.