OT Defunding the police, the good and the bad from a city that did it.

[SlyPokerDog]

Please give this a listen. @ABM and enjoyed it. This explains the good and bad about defunding the police from a city that was the first to do it. Very informative. It's from the people who actually did it.

https://play.google.com/music/liste...jStMI8qcHFl78#/ps/Ib6qd4lcx7srqz7u5qsigzsgpge

In this special episode of Stay Tuned, “The Camden Policing Model,” former New Jersey Attorney General and CAFE Insider co-host Anne Milgram interviews former Camden Police Chief Scott Thomson, whose reimagining of law enforcement in Camden has become a national model. Anne and Chief Thomson discuss their extensive collaboration in implementing Camden’s reforms, the challenges of state-level political ecosystems, and the lessons that they take as we work to reimagine policing across the country.

At least @ABM took the time to listen to this.

Props to you!

 

[dviss1]

This will be my only comment of the thread because frankly, I'm sick of this shit....

52% of our budget goes to policing... 52 FUCKING percent...

What they want you to believe is Defund = Abolish.

Well while over funding our police force, they've been defunding our schools for DECADES...

They're still here...

 

[Lanny]

This will be my only comment of the thread because frankly, I'm sick of this shit....

52% of our budget goes to policing... 52 FUCKING percent...

What they want you to believe is Defund = Abolish.

Well while over funding our police force, they've been defunding our schools for DECADES...

They're still here...

Exactly right.

 

[tester551]

This will be my only comment of the thread because frankly, I'm sick of this shit....

52% of our budget goes to policing... 52 FUCKING percent...

What they want you to believe is Defund = Abolish.

Well while over funding our police force, they've been defunding our schools for DECADES...

They're still here...

Where are you getting 52%?

From the actual City Budget numbers, it appears the actual number is less than 10%.
Table 5 from this report (pages 49-53) indicates that the Police received ~ $480,000,000 ($250,000,000 Police Bureau budget + $230,000,000 Fire/Police Retirement fund) from a total City budget of $5,800,000,000
https://www.portlandoregon.gov/cbo/article/760527

Schools is a completely different story.... The primary funding sources are from state funds (not local - like it is for police).
From the state budget, almost 50% of the budget goes towards education.
https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/lfo/Documents/2019-21 Budget Highlights.pdf


Please at least TRY to get the fact straight before going on a tirade...

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Please give this a listen. @ABM and enjoyed it. This explains the good and bad about defunding the police from a city that was the first to do it. Very informative. It's from the people who actually did it.

https://play.google.com/music/liste...jStMI8qcHFl78#/ps/Ib6qd4lcx7srqz7u5qsigzsgpge

In this special episode of Stay Tuned, “The Camden Policing Model,” former New Jersey Attorney General and CAFE Insider co-host Anne Milgram interviews former Camden Police Chief Scott Thomson, whose reimagining of law enforcement in Camden has become a national model. Anne and Chief Thomson discuss their extensive collaboration in implementing Camden’s reforms, the challenges of state-level political ecosystems, and the lessons that they take as we work to reimagine policing across the country.

@e_blazer I read your reply about defunding.

Give this a listen. It will explain a lot. It's not very long. Even @ABM listened to it. But to address your point in your post I don't believe BLM coined the term defunding the police.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Please give this a listen. @ABM and enjoyed it. This explains the good and bad about defunding the police from a city that was the first to do it. Very informative. It's from the people who actually did it.

https://play.google.com/music/liste...jStMI8qcHFl78#/ps/Ib6qd4lcx7srqz7u5qsigzsgpge

In this special episode of Stay Tuned, “The Camden Policing Model,” former New Jersey Attorney General and CAFE Insider co-host Anne Milgram interviews former Camden Police Chief Scott Thomson, whose reimagining of law enforcement in Camden has become a national model. Anne and Chief Thomson discuss their extensive collaboration in implementing Camden’s reforms, the challenges of state-level political ecosystems, and the lessons that they take as we work to reimagine policing across the country.

Bumped for @ABM.