OT Defunding the police, the good and the bad from a city that did it.

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Please give this a listen. @ABM and enjoyed it. This explains the good and bad about defunding the police from a city that was the first to do it. Very informative. It's from the people who actually did it.

https://play.google.com/music/liste...jStMI8qcHFl78#/ps/Ib6qd4lcx7srqz7u5qsigzsgpge

In this special episode of Stay Tuned, “The Camden Policing Model,” former New Jersey Attorney General and CAFE Insider co-host Anne Milgram interviews former Camden Police Chief Scott Thomson, whose reimagining of law enforcement in Camden has become a national model. Anne and Chief Thomson discuss their extensive collaboration in implementing Camden’s reforms, the challenges of state-level political ecosystems, and the lessons that they take as we work to reimagine policing across the country.


At least @ABM took the time to listen to this.

Props to you!
 
This will be my only comment of the thread because frankly, I'm sick of this shit....

52% of our budget goes to policing... 52 FUCKING percent...

What they want you to believe is Defund = Abolish.

Well while over funding our police force, they've been defunding our schools for DECADES...

They're still here...
 
This will be my only comment of the thread because frankly, I'm sick of this shit....

52% of our budget goes to policing... 52 FUCKING percent...

What they want you to believe is Defund = Abolish.

Well while over funding our police force, they've been defunding our schools for DECADES...

They're still here...
Exactly right.
 
This will be my only comment of the thread because frankly, I'm sick of this shit....

52% of our budget goes to policing... 52 FUCKING percent...


What they want you to believe is Defund = Abolish.

Well while over funding our police force, they've been defunding our schools for DECADES...

They're still here...
Where are you getting 52%?

From the actual City Budget numbers, it appears the actual number is less than 10%.
Table 5 from this report (pages 49-53) indicates that the Police received ~ $480,000,000 ($250,000,000 Police Bureau budget + $230,000,000 Fire/Police Retirement fund) from a total City budget of $5,800,000,000
https://www.portlandoregon.gov/cbo/article/760527

Schools is a completely different story.... The primary funding sources are from state funds (not local - like it is for police).
From the state budget, almost 50% of the budget goes towards education.
https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/lfo/Documents/2019-21 Budget Highlights.pdf
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Please at least TRY to get the fact straight before going on a tirade...
 
Please give this a listen. @ABM and enjoyed it. This explains the good and bad about defunding the police from a city that was the first to do it. Very informative. It's from the people who actually did it.

https://play.google.com/music/liste...jStMI8qcHFl78#/ps/Ib6qd4lcx7srqz7u5qsigzsgpge

In this special episode of Stay Tuned, “The Camden Policing Model,” former New Jersey Attorney General and CAFE Insider co-host Anne Milgram interviews former Camden Police Chief Scott Thomson, whose reimagining of law enforcement in Camden has become a national model. Anne and Chief Thomson discuss their extensive collaboration in implementing Camden’s reforms, the challenges of state-level political ecosystems, and the lessons that they take as we work to reimagine policing across the country.

@e_blazer I read your reply about defunding.

Give this a listen. It will explain a lot. It's not very long. Even @ABM listened to it. But to address your point in your post I don't believe BLM coined the term defunding the police.
 
Please give this a listen. @ABM and enjoyed it. This explains the good and bad about defunding the police from a city that was the first to do it. Very informative. It's from the people who actually did it.

https://play.google.com/music/liste...jStMI8qcHFl78#/ps/Ib6qd4lcx7srqz7u5qsigzsgpge

In this special episode of Stay Tuned, “The Camden Policing Model,” former New Jersey Attorney General and CAFE Insider co-host Anne Milgram interviews former Camden Police Chief Scott Thomson, whose reimagining of law enforcement in Camden has become a national model. Anne and Chief Thomson discuss their extensive collaboration in implementing Camden’s reforms, the challenges of state-level political ecosystems, and the lessons that they take as we work to reimagine policing across the country.

Bumped for @ABM.
 
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