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Denny Crane said:
Agriculture and irrigation have been around for thousands of years. They've been moving water to areas that don't have enough for like, forever.
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That is one of the interesting things to observe when visiting Ephesus. Their water system was quite elaborate a couple thousand years back.
 
Denny Crane said:
California directs billions of gallons of water from the rivers and snow melt into the sea instead of the aquaducts. I don't think that's entirely true.
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The run off out the Sacramento River is really quite high. When I was up to the railroad bridge at Rio Vista last November, I calculated the run off to be about 5.5 knots. That is a big river flowing at that speed. The cost to the central valley and the dead orchards there, has to be huge! I do not really under stand it, since the difference is only a few miles difference of where the salt water begins and where fresh water is the norm. It switches with the available water anyway, regardless of what the policy is. It seems the goal is to just flush the salt water back down stream as far as possible when ever possible. When it's not possible the salt water move up stream with the tide anyway.
 
barfo said:
I was walking down the street and heard someone passing say "...and I won't stand for it, I just won't. If he wants..."

This is outrageous! Obviously the rest of their conversation was exactly how I imagined it, so somebody needs to do something!

barfo
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lmao! Now that was funny and exactly what I was thinking when I read the OP. Well done, :chestbump:
 
MarAzul said:
Where do you get your insight here? I think about 25% of the city I am in right now is illegal!
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uh marzy, not all hispanics are illegal and in fact, the majority are legal. How would you know that 25% are illegal? because of the color of their skin? That can be construed as being racist.
 
CupWizier said:
uh marzy, not all hispanics are illegal and in fact, the majority are legal. How would you know that 25% are illegal? because of the color of their skin? That can be construed as being racist.
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Bilingual paranoia would be my guess
 
andalusian said:
California can supply the acreage and sun. It only seems reasonable that the rest of the country will be willing to provide water for all this produce that it consumes.
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Whoa! I missed this one before. So when people buy the produce from California, paying in cash money, you want them to provide the water also?
Well now, this is a novel new economic plan! California dumps the Sacramento River into the ocean to keep the salt water at bay from the delta and other folks provide the water and the cash to buy the produce.

The owners of the Islands in the delta already have the sweetest of deals, and you just made their deal even sweeter. One Island I was anchored by has been in the family for over a 100 years now. The entire island of 3400 acres is owned by the family. The County provides a ferry service to the island. The State keeps water in the rivers for their use in irrigation. The Corp of engineers maintains the dike that completely surrounds the island, which is 16' below low tide. And now other people are going to help them out even more under your plan by providing more water. Some folks really are just blessed.

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The Potato patch just off the Stockton ship channel. The surrounding farm land is 16' below sea level, thanks to the US Army Corp of Engineers the farmers are still farming it. I sinks a little more each year as they pump the water out from under the land. The river flows in the Sacramento and San Joaquin must be remain sufficient to prevent the saltwater encroachment from the tidal flow from the bays down stream.
 
riverman said:
They work for agriculture as well..and are currently used for it...I like your idea about recycling plants as well....another agricultural breakthrough recently has been agricultural towers that grow crops using very little land, hence less evaporation...saw some in the Arizona desert that were pretty cool.
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My brother (in AZ) and I (in FL) are working on the "engineered agriculture" stuff right now. Side project from our "real" work, so still in "expensive hobby" phase, but we're getting there.
 
I'd have to look it up, but I think that the reason Hoover Dam/Lake Mead is a problem right now is that the politicians making the water use treaties weren't smart about it. I may be getting the specifics slightly wrong, but it was something like this:

Instead of saying something like "Hey, Basin States and Mexico, we'll give you x% of whatever we have" they calculated out what 20% was and said "we'll send 1.5M acre-feet (or whatever) per year downstream. THe problem is that in the 20's when the treaty was signed there was a lot more rain than there is now throughout the west, and the Colorado River had a lot more flow.
 
MarAzul said:
Ha!
That dolt makes the point he is trying to refute.
Water storage in the last;

years
60 21 million acre feet
50 8.6 million acre feet
40 1.6 million acre feet
30 1.0 million acre feet mean while in the last 40 years the population has doubled.
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I never made any point or refuted any point. Simply posted an article for you to read. It's nice to see that I reduced you to a personal attack. Maybe Sly needs to put you in timeout for your pathetically bad behaviour. :beatinto:
 
Girls, girls, you're both pretty in your bathing suits.
 
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