Politics Democrats vent but can't stop Trump from leaving Paris climate agreement

[Denny Crane]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...mp-leaving-paris-climate-agreement/102343042/

WASHINGTON — Democratic lawmakers slammed President Trump on Wednesday as news spread that he plans to pull out of the Paris climate accord, but there's not much they can do to about it if he does.

Trump announced on Twitter that he will make a decision on Thursday, and news reports Wednesday indicated he is moving toward withdrawal.

A Republican-controlled Congress couldn't stop President Barack Obama in 2015 from signing on to the treaty designed to cut lower the risks of climate change by cutting emissions, and the Democrats can't stop Trump from pulling America out of the landmark deal signed by more than 190 countries.

The deal is considered an executive agreement, and therefore not a traditional treaty requiring ratification by two-thirds of the Senate, because it doesn't bind the country to certain outcomes such as specific reductions in greenhouse gas emissions. It was a point highlighted by environmental activists two years ago when explaining why Obama could sign on to the accord without congressional consent.

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Nearly two dozen Republican senators, including Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, wrote a letter last month to the president urging him to pull out of the deal because it threatens the Trump agenda to roll back regulations and boost the economy.

 

[Denny Crane]

Treaties are the law of the land, according to the Constitution. This is no treaty, it wasn't voted on by congress.

I don't think it's about the cut in carbon emissions that's the problem. It's the money we're spending on other countries' efforts to follow suit. Obama signed us up to lead the transfer of $100B in annual "climate finance" from the developed world to the developing countries that pledge nothing.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Republican Congressman Says God Will 'Take Care Of' Climate Change

Michigan Rep. Tim Walberg said during a town hall in Coldwater, Mich., on Friday that while he believes climate change is real, it is not something for humans to solve.


"I believe there's climate change. I believe there's been climate change since the beginning of time," Walberg said. "Do I think man has some impact? Yeah, of course. Can man change the entire universe? No."

He continued: "Why do I believe that? Well, as a Christian, I believe that there is a creator in God who is much bigger than us. And I'm confident that, if there's a real problem, he can take care of it."

http://time.com/4800000/tim-walberg-god-climate-change/

 

[riverman]

It's the money we're spending

build a wall....protect the environment..build a wall...protect the environment.....sure...it's the money...and those damned Europeans!!!

 

[Denny Crane]

build a wall....protect the environment..build a wall...protect the environment.....sure...it's the money...and those damned Europeans!!!

There's no evidence this accord accomplishes anything other than the transfer of money from the US to other countries, and a hit to our GDP.

It's one more step toward erasing what damage Obama did.

 

[Denny Crane]

Since some of us can't read more than 140 characters:

 

[riverman]

There's no evidence this accord accomplishes anything other than the transfer of money from the US to other countries, and a hit to our GDP.

It's one more step toward erasing what damage Obama did.

Funny thing about nature...it tends to not recognize international borders.....you seriously state there's NO EVIDENCE that our contributions to the planets health accomplish anything and hurt the GDP? So an arms race will really boost the GDP and be pretty bad for the environment....you must be thrilled

 

[riverman]

coal will save you Denny

 

[Denny Crane]

Funny thing about nature...it tends to not recognize international borders.....you seriously state there's NO EVIDENCE that our contributions to the planets health accomplish nothing and hurt the GDP? So an arms race will really boost the GDP and be pretty bad for the environment....you must be thrilled

I state that the goals of this accord and the models disagree. The models, the UN, etc., all say this agreement will accomplish nothing. It will not accomplish any stated goal.

 

[riverman]

Since some of us can't read more than 140 characters:

You could take some night courses to brush up

 

[Denny Crane]

coal will save you Denny

Coal will save China and India and Pakistan. Hundreds of new coal plants being built there. Not here.

Getting out of this bad deal doesn't mean we're going to open the floodgates. It's likely we will still meet the emissions targets in the agreement regardless of the agreement in place or not.

 

[riverman]

Coal will save China and India and Pakistan

coal will cause acid rain all throughout those countries...it's why they walk around with umbrellas and 5 year old kids have grey hair over there.

 

[Denny Crane]

coal will cause acid rain all throughout those countries...it's why they walk around with umbrellas and 5 year old kids have grey hair over there.

Fire and brimstone. Preach on!

 

[riverman]

Fire and brimstone. Preach on!

GOP Congressman Tim Walberg says God will solve any global climate problems we have....good to know we elect officials that rule by prayer and wait for God to fix things around here. That's your fire and brimstone....personally, I'd start by not turning the air black with coal

 

[riverman]

The forbidden city in Beijing......

 

[riverman]

Clean water....too busy making money to clean it up

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Clean water....too busy making money to clean it up
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That's our problem?

 

[riverman]

Invest in paper masks and make a fortune!

 

[Denny Crane]

GOP Congressman Tim Walberg says God will solve any global climate problems we have....good to know we elect officials that rule by prayer and wait for God to fix things around here. That's your fire and brimstone....personally, I'd start by not turning the air black with coal

Preach on. We'll burn in hell if we don't obey!

 

[riverman]

We'll burn in hell if we don't obey!

you moved to Los Angeles?

 

[Denny Crane]

you moved to Los Angeles?

Sort of.

Funny that you don't recognize how your rhetoric mimics that of the most religious persons.

 

[riverman]

Sort of.

Funny that you don't recognize how your rhetoric mimics that of the most religious persons.

we Taoists get that a lot but we're actually not into organized religion at all....the reason it seems funny to you is that you practice detachment from your fellow earthlings....your rhetoric is more Nihilistic in nature....life boat where the fat guy eats the weak and keeps the last jug of water for himself.

 

[Denny Crane]

we Taoists get that a lot but we're actually not into organized religion at all....the reason it seems funny to you is that you practice detachment from your fellow earthlings....your rhetoric is more Nihilistic in nature....life boat where the fat guy eats the weak and keeps the last jug of water for himself.

Hardly. I favor free associations among people. Just not forced ones.

Preach on!

 

[riverman]

Hardly. I favor free associations among people who hate democrats. Just not forced ones.

Preach on!

there you go....all fixed

 

[Denny Crane]

there you go....all fixed

Really?

I'm pro union.

You're not looking good here.

 

[riverman]

You're not looking good here

nobody looks good through Trump colored glasses

 

[riverman]

Big picture....China has an open door now to assume the leading role in the international community...from Europe to Africa to Mexico....China will take full advantage of Trump's isolationist bluster...Merkel met with their prime minister just yesterday. meanwhile we sell weapons like gangbusters...

 

[Chris Craig]

Republican Congressman Says God Will 'Take Care Of' Climate Change

Michigan Rep. Tim Walberg said during a town hall in Coldwater, Mich., on Friday that while he believes climate change is real, it is not something for humans to solve.


"I believe there's climate change. I believe there's been climate change since the beginning of time," Walberg said. "Do I think man has some impact? Yeah, of course. Can man change the entire universe? No."

He continued: "Why do I believe that? Well, as a Christian, I believe that there is a creator in God who is much bigger than us. And I'm confident that, if there's a real problem, he can take care of it."

http://time.com/4800000/tim-walberg-god-climate-change/

So why does he need to be in Congress? God will do his job for him

 

[MarAzul]

Big picture

 

[MarAzul]

Really?

I'm pro union.

You're not looking good here.

I'm not pro union.
He still isn't looking good here.