"Denver and the northwest division

[Trailblazers76]

I just realized if Denver wins they will be the first northwest division team to win the title since the Sonics in 1979. And since that barely counts now, the last would be ya boys the 77 Blazers.

I would never have thought to ever root for the Nuggets but I think it's about time the Northwest Division represents.

 

[Chris Craig]

It's been a tough division too...one of the toughest in the West.

 

[Strenuus]

That's quite a nugget of information...

 

[Hoopguru]

Its obvious that you better have length and strength up front to contend. If we go with small ball it simply wont work to advance in playoffs. Even the Warriors know this now.

 

[wizenheimer]

Its obvious that you better have length and strength up front to contend. If we go with small ball it simply wont work to advance in playoffs. Even the Warriors know this now.

length...yes, but strength? I'm thinking mobility is more important. Gordon & Porter have length but they can cover well on the perimeter; Gordon has the strength to defend well in the paint but Porter doesn't

Denver just has excellent roster construction and roster balance. And they went about it the smart way, unlike Portland, by developing a core than building around it. Now, they did have the greatest 2nd round luck in modern NBA history by drafting Jokic. There's no template for that

but while Portland had a 1 player core while wasting 1st round picks trading for RoCo and Nance and wasting MLE's on Derrick Jones & Payton, Denver was trading for Gordon & KCP, investing the MLE on Bruce Brown, and using picks they didn't trade away on Porter and Braun.

great management is critical and the Blazers spent a decade with the shitty-stupid management of Olshey, and the current debatable management of Cronin

 

[Shaboid]

That's quite a nugget of information...

This joke is what you were awake at 5 in the morning for?

 

[Tince]

I just realized if Denver wins they will be the first northwest division team to win the title since the Sonics in 1979. And since that barely counts now, the last would be ya boys the 77 Blazers.

I would never have thought to ever root for the Nuggets but I think it's about time the Northwest Division represents.

First western conference team outside of California or Texas to win the finals since 1979.

 

[Strenuus]

This joke is what you were awake at 5 in the morning for?

ALL DAY. ALL DAY.

 

[BIG Q]

Don't forget, Portland was in the Pacific Division with Seattle, LAL, GSW, Clippers and Suns for many, many years. All of the Showtime Lakers titles. But the realignment has not been good to what is now the Northwest Division.

 

[BassPlaya]

That's quite a nugget of information...

That's gold Jerry......GOLD!

 

[tykendo]

I just realized if Denver wins they will be the first northwest division team to win the title since the Sonics in 1979. And since that barely counts now, the last would be ya boys the 77 Blazers.

I would never have thought to ever root for the Nuggets but I think it's about time the Northwest Division represents.

Either we rule the West or Denver does. I get that Denver is there now, but hopefully we can as well after this offseason. The rest of the League can suck it.

 

[tykendo]

length...yes, but strength? I'm thinking mobility is more important. Gordon & Porter have length but they can cover well on the perimeter; Gordon has the strength to defend well in the paint but Porter doesn't

Denver just has excellent roster construction and roster balance. And they went about it the smart way, unlike Portland, by developing a core than building around it. Now, they did have the greatest 2nd round luck in modern NBA history by drafting Jokic. There's no template for that

but while Portland had a 1 player core while wasting 1st round picks trading for RoCo and Nance and wasting MLE's on Derrick Jones & Payton, Denver was trading for Gordon & KCP, investing the MLE on Bruce Brown, and using picks they didn't trade away on Porter and Braun.

great management is critical and the Blazers spent a decade with the shitty-stupid management of Olshey, and the current debatable management of Cronin

At least Cronin has a chance to prove himself. Olshey proved himself to be a buffoon.

 

[KingSpeed]

At least Cronin has a chance to prove himself. Olshey proved himself to be a buffoon.

Olshey lost Aldridge and rebuilt the team with spare parts into a 2-time #3 seed and a WCF berth. He could’ve done worse. Our greatest memories since Sheed have been because of Olshey.

 

[STOMP]

All the Nuggets starters are under contract next year, only KC-P has an out the season after. KC-P is also the eldest starter at age 29... Jokic is 27.

They are 15-4 in these playoffs, decidedly rolling through everyone they've faced. The Western Conference #1 seed is likely to be even better next season, this could be the first of many titles for them

STOMP

 

[1 Eye Jack]

That's quite a nugget of information...

That's gold Jerry......GOLD!

really shouldn’t make a Jokic of it

 

[Tince]

All the Nuggets starters are under contract next year, only KC-P has an out the season after. KC-P is also the eldest starter at age 29... Jokic is 27.

They are 15-4 in these playoffs, decidedly rolling through everyone they've faced. The Western Conference #1 seed is likely to be even better next season, this could be the first of many titles for them

STOMP

I would bet Denver doesn't win two more titles in the Jokic/Murray era. Doesn't mean they're not a great team, deserving of the championship; the new rules are going to make becoming a dynasty that much harder.

 

[STOMP]

I would bet Denver doesn't win two more titles in the Jokic/Murray era. Doesn't mean they're not a great team, deserving of the championship; the new rules are going to make becoming a dynasty that much harder.

Winning a single championship is never easy, let alone two more. A team has to be very very good, healthy and often lucky too... I said could not will be. I'm sure you'd have people lined up for miles to place that bet but what rules are you referring to?

STOMP

 

[Tince]

Winning a single championship is never easy, let alone two more. A team has to be very very good, healthy and often lucky too... I said could not will be. I'm sure you'd have people lined up for miles to place that bet but what rules are you referring to?

STOMP

Gotcha...I guess any of the 30 teams could win many titles in the future.

The new CBA rules.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

Olshey lost Aldridge and rebuilt the team with spare parts into a 2-time #3 seed and a WCF berth. He could’ve done worse. Our greatest memories since Sheed have been because of Olshey.

But will forever be remembered for this....

 

[STOMP]

Gotcha...I guess any of the 30 teams could win many titles in the future.

While thats true, no team in the league has as good of a shot at winning a few in the near future as the Nuggets. Their guys are in their primes and already under contract for the next few seasons.

The new CBA rules.

which again shouldn't affect the Nuggets for a few more years as their guys are already under contract

STOMP

 

[Tince]

While thats true, no team in the league has as good of a shot at winning a few in the near future as the Nuggets. Their guys are in their primes and already under contract for the next few seasons.


which again shouldn't affect the Nuggets for a few more years as their guys are already under contract

STOMP

I don't know about the first statement. I don't agree with the second one. The tax, exception, and tradability of players in the new CBA will be things they have to address starting this summer. For example, it wouldn't be shocking for them to lose Bruce Brown for nothing. As I understand it, the new rules apply to existing contracts, they're not grandfathered in.

 

[STOMP]

I don't know about the first statement.

pray tell who you think has a better shot of winning a few in the next few years?

I don't agree with the second one. The tax, exception, and tradability of players in the new CBA will be things they have to address starting this summer. For example, it wouldn't be shocking for them to lose Bruce Brown for nothing.

sorry that I said guys instead of their starters (again) as I try not to be redundant and had already identified who I was speaking about. Since Brown has a player option this summer, it should have been obvious he was not someone I was referring to.

STOMP

 

[Tince]

pray tell who you think has a better shot of winning a few in the next few years?


sorry that I said guys instead of their starters (again) as I try not to be redundant and had already identified who I was speaking about. Since Brown has a player option this summer, it should have been obvious he was not someone I was referring to.

STOMP

Boston. Could also be a team that hasn't been formed. I suspect player movement is only going to increase. Ultimately, I wouldn't put a significant percentage on any team.

I don't always read (and remember) all the posts, so my bad if you mentioned it was only the starters you were talking about. Regardless, bench depth matters, so losing Brown for nothing would be an example of the CBA impacting Denver's ability to maintain this years success for the next 5ish years.

 

[wizenheimer]

next year's tax threshold is around 162M. The Apron around 169M. Denver has 169M in guarantees next season with only 10 players. Denver was a taxpayer this season and that was with Jokic on his rookie extension. His super-max starts next season. Denver will have to start worrying about repeater tax but with real chances at another title, they might not worry a lot

 

[STOMP]

Boston. Could also be a team that hasn't been formed.

Please. The Celtics have major concerns in their frontcourt going forward. Horford will be 37 next season and Williams has a degenerative knee and can't be counted on... dude is 25 and played less then half the season because of the same knee that caused him to slip when he was drafted. I'd place their odds of winning multiple championships over the next 5ish years about the same as them blowing things up. Like Denver they have some stars, but they need to add major pieces, Denver doesn't. It's a team game. Sorry, but you don't get to take the field in answering the question I posed.... I asked for a team.

STOMP

 

[Tince]

Please. The Celtics have major concerns in their frontcourt going forward. Horford will be 37 next season and Williams has a degenerative knee and can't be counted on... dude is 25 and played less then half the season because of the same knee that caused him to slip when he was drafted. I'd place their odds of winning multiple championships over the next 5ish years about the same as them blowing things up. Like Denver they have some stars, but they've a lot more questions about the rest of their team and it is a team game. They need to add major pieces, Denver doesn't. Sorry, but you don't get to take the field in answering this question.

STOMP

You asked me to pick a team, so I did. I 100% agree the Celtics have issues moving forward. I wouldn't pick them to win a majority of the titles in the near future either.

The field is the right answer in my opinion. It's better than picking Denver or Boston to win a few titles in the near future. I think we'll be seeing less dynasties moving forward, but I may be wrong.

 

[STOMP]

The field is the right answer in my opinion.

it always is, which is why it isn't an option to the question of what team is most likely to win. Come on now, you're being silly

STOMP

 

[Tince]

it always is, which is why it isn't an option to the question of what team is most likely to win. Come on now, you're being silly

STOMP

I already gave you a team; you even quoted it and made a response, silly!

 

[Phatguysrule]

Olshey lost Aldridge and rebuilt the team with spare parts into a 2-time #3 seed and a WCF berth. He could’ve done worse. Our greatest memories since Sheed have been because of Olshey.

Yes, we've had worse bafoons than Olshey. Unfortunately.

 

[Phatguysrule]

next year's tax threshold is around 162M. The Apron around 169M. Denver has 169M in guarantees next season with only 10 players. Denver was a taxpayer this season and that was with Jokic on his rookie extension. His super-max starts next season. Denver will have to start worrying about repeater tax but with real chances at another title, they might not worry a lot

I gotta think being a championship contender pays for the repeater tax, right?