Deron will stay only with Howard

[Mediocre Man]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/221302/Nets_Must_Acquire_Howard_To_Keep_Williams



So I ask ya.....How likely do you think it is now that Brooklyn will acquire one of the top picks to trade for Howard with?

 

[BBert]

Jesus, with D-Will and Howard our Brooklyn Nyets pick next year will be crap (if we don't get it this year).




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[THE HCP]

^Just thinking the same thing

 

[Mediocre Man]

A little over 8 hours to see how corrupt the league is on National tv

 

[THE HCP]

How would they do it this time? No cards to put in a freezer.

 

[Reep]

I don't think #2 or #3 would do it, unless Orlando is high on Drummond. Orlando could do better with the L@kers or get some other young proven talent. NJ needs the first pick.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Sign and trade brook lopez, marshon brooks and two or three would probably do it for orlando

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

"sources say"

 

[e_blazer]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/221302/Nets_Must_Acquire_Howard_To_Keep_Williams



So I ask ya.....How likely do you think it is now that Brooklyn will acquire one of the top picks to trade for Howard with?

Hmmm. About 1 in 4.

 

[BBert]

Try this low-tech lottery simulator: If you toss a balanced coin twice there is a 25% chance it comes up heads (or tails) both times. Happens all the time. Very possible. Same chance that the Nyets get in the top 3. I'm not going to hold my breath we get that pick.

I'm praying the Blazers name is not called at or before No. 11. Unless I'm mistaken, that would mean we vault into the top 3 ourselves, right?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Jesus, with D-Will and Howard our Brooklyn Nyets pick next year will be crap (if we don't get it this year).

What a horrible thought.

 

[Eastoff]

Try this low-tech lottery simulator: If you toss a balanced coin twice there is a 25% chance it comes up heads (or tails) both times. Happens all the time. Very possible. Same chance that the Nyets get in the top 3. I'm not going to hold my breath we get that pick.

I'm praying the Blazers name is not called at or before No. 11. Unless I'm mistaken, that would mean we vault into the top 3 ourselves, right?

Yes, and dramatically increasing our chance of getting New Jersey's pick as well.

 

[Sedatedfork]

Try this low-tech lottery simulator: If you toss a balanced coin twice there is a 25% chance it comes up heads (or tails) both times. Happens all the time. Very possible. Same chance that the Nyets get in the top 3. I'm not going to hold my breath we get that pick.

I'm praying the Blazers name is not called at or before No. 11. Unless I'm mistaken, that would mean we vault into the top 3 ourselves, right?

Well technically that is a 50% chance. There are 4 outcomes (HH, HT, TH, TT). HH or TT happen 50% of the time. You would actually have to announce HH or TT before you start flipping your coin to have a 25% chance. You were probably saying this, but the way you typed it out it made it look like it was more likely than it actually is.

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't see any way that NJ gets Howard, so they can kiss Deron goodbye.

 

[PapaG]

I don't see any way that NJ gets Howard, so they can kiss Deron goodbye.

But Brooklyn...

 

[Natebishop3]

But Brooklyn...

Still no chance.

 

[Draco]

I don't see any way that NJ gets Howard, so they can kiss Deron goodbye.

To where? Dallas will have to gut their roster for the cap room to sign him, bye bye Jason Terry/Kidd/Haywood. Does he really want to be paired with only an aging Dirk and not much else? Is he going to consider going back to Utah or coming to Portland? I doubt either of those seriously interest him.

There are a lot of concerns with Brooklyn, but this isn't a summer when the Miami, Chicago, LA, New York teams have cap space. I think he sticks with the Nets just because there isn't any better options.

 

[Reep]

Anyone want to post a factually summary no more than two paragraphs about what Insider says are good fits for Deron as an FA?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Anyone want to post a factually summary no more than two paragraphs about what Insider says are good fits for Deron as an FA?

I am afraid to now

 

[Reep]

Okay, found it posted on a Pacers board.

5-star fit: NYets
4-star fit: Dallas (potentially with Howard)
3-star fit(s): Jazz, Suns, 76ers, Blazers.

Funny, they posted the full article over there.

 

[Natebishop3]

To where? Dallas will have to gut their roster for the cap room to sign him, bye bye Jason Terry/Kidd/Haywood. Does he really want to be paired with only an aging Dirk and not much else? Is he going to consider going back to Utah or coming to Portland? I doubt either of those seriously interest him.

There are a lot of concerns with Brooklyn, but this isn't a summer when the Miami, Chicago, LA, New York teams have cap space. I think he sticks with the Nets just because there isn't any better options.

The Nets have an extremely weak roster, even for the east. Why would he want to lock himself into that team for the next four or five years with no guarantee that they'll get Howard or any other star?

 

[Reep]

The Nets have an extremely weak roster, even for the east. Why would he want to lock himself into that team for the next four or five years with no guarantee that they'll get Howard or any other star?

Endorsement money. I think he would make way more there than anywhere else. NYK are in real trouble, new team with a big audience, lots of jersey sales, he could be the first face of the franchise. Dallas would be home, but Brooklyn is where he will make the most contract and endorsement money. Isn't there a way where Brooklyn could wait out the year and sign Howard as an FA (or trade midseason next year), and still get max money?

I think Portland does make sense for him, but I don't think it has any of the things that truly motivate him. Dallas only makes sense if they can get Howard there somehow later. He left a solid Utah team for money to get where he is now. He has shown his motivation. Why would he change that now?

 

[Eastoff]

He left a solid Utah team for money to get where he is now. He has shown his motivation. Why would he change that now?

winner, winner, chicken dinner

 

[Reep]

He talks winner, but his preferences have always been more about money.

 

[BBert]

Well technically that is a 50% chance. There are 4 outcomes (HH, HT, TH, TT). HH or TT happen 50% of the time. You would actually have to announce HH or TT before you start flipping your coin to have a 25% chance. You were probably saying this, but the way you typed it out it made it look like it was more likely than it actually is.

True. Thanks.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I can't stand the new brand of me-first superstars.

 

[Reep]

Honestly, I would really prefer to find someone through the draft to take on that position. But, I just don't see it happening in the next few years.

I used to like the Clips as a second team, but with pulling over Chris Paul, and all his ego, (don't get me started on Blake) I really can't get behind them.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

If Blazers were lucky enough to get Williams, how many games before he demands a trade?

 

[Reep]

If Blazers were lucky enough to get Williams, how many games before he demands a trade?

If he signed with Portland (big if) it would only be because they had a good window to compete. If LMA stays healthy and Batum improves, how could they not be competitive. You have your big shot guy handling the ball, good shooters around him, and some good fast break runners. If they got Williams I can't seem him demanding a trade unless there are some major chemistry issues that prevent them from winning.

 

[PapaG]

He talks winner, but his preferences have always been more about money.

How so? He spent how many years in Utah before getting out of a franchise that has never won a title? Plus, there is a lot of buzz regarding the Brooklyn franchise, and their owner Ivan Drago seems willing to spend money.

I guess I don't see how Williams staying in Brooklyn is a bad move. It's at least a good of a situation as Portland, plus they have a GM and a coach, too.