Did KP really turn down this package at the deadline???

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I don't think KP ever intended to get Carter at all, but just to drive up the price for him. I remember him almost laugh at a question about Carter in an interview after the deadline.
 
are you surprised? thats ok... all the pritchard supporters will see the next 4 games why he threw this team under teh bus this season.

but hey... wait till next year.

Why didn't the LAST 3 games prove he was correct for standing pat with this squad? Why will the next 4 games prove he was wrong?
 
no way around it.... pritchard dropped the ball big time

it will be fun to see everyone turn when we dont make the playoffs caus eof the trade deadline debacle
 
CAUSE THE LAST 3 GAMES WERE VS 2 OF THE WORST TEAMS IN THE NBA. And the hawks were destroyed by utah.
The clippers were wout zach, thorton, camby. Im supposed to think all is well and pritchard proved me wrong lol?
 
no way around it.... pritchard dropped the ball big time

I think that we need to all acknowledge that this offer may or may not have been on the table.

IF he turned it down, I think he blew it. "Blew it" insofar as that's about as much current and future talent as we could EVER hope to get for RLEC, and it would have made us better in the short and long run.

it will be fun to see everyone turn when we dont make the playoffs caus eof the trade deadline debacle

Well, first of all, I'm not sure that it was a debacle.

Secondly, I'm pretty confident that we're making the playoffs, whether there was a debacle or not.

Ed O.
 
But what if the "talent" wasn't at a position of need? One could make the case that there are at least two outcomes hinging on KP taking the rumored deal.

Outcome One: He gets Carter as our 3rd SG, moving him to SF. Taking almost all of Batum's and Outlaw's SF minutes, and dropping Travis to almost solely a backup PF, which with LMA means he's getting 8-12 mpg. Making our offense somewhat better, though our defense is still quite shoddy and I submit we still need an upgrade at some point of PG. We get 2 draft picks as well. Total outlay for VC is his contract (which puts us over the LuxTax this year, btw) and the lux taxes for this year (relatively minimal, maybe 5M or so) the lux tax in 2010-11 (when we'll have 3 max-or-close-to players and Joel and Oden as our big salaries). So around a 50M cost for an offensive upgrade at SG/SF and two draft picks.

Outcome Two. We "go to war with what we have". We let RLEC expire, giving us the chance to have our normal draft prep, armed with cash, Travis and Blake's non-guaranteed 20090-10 contracts, a boatload of 2nds and a TE to get an extra pick if we target a player we can get. We read the tea leaves to see if we can get a guy (say, Sessions?) at a position of upgrade need for around our 7M or so ,or make either a "lopsided trade" or a S&T for who we want. Summary: Guy we really want, at a position of upgrade need, for 7M or so per year increase (either the signing, or the difference in lopsided trades). Outlay: extra 7M per year, plus maybe 6M for draft picks.

I'm not positive he "blew it". I think this is him considering all options and choosing the harder, and less popular, right.
 
I highly doubt that trade was on the table. Wasn't all the talk at the deadline about NJ's reluctance for giving up GS' draft pick? And now they'd give us Dallas' as well, plus just get cap savings in Raef?

I call bullshit on that one. If that was all NJ's asking price for Vince, they would've gotten rid of him somewhere else.
 
I highly doubt that trade was on the table. Wasn't all the talk at the deadline about NJ's reluctance for giving up GS' draft pick? And now they'd give us Dallas' as well, plus just get cap savings in Raef?

I call bullshit on that one. If that was all NJ's asking price for Vince, they would've gotten rid of him somewhere else.

Alex, there you go with your reasoning and logic again. When will you learn that there's no room for that here; if you can't consistently bring panic, grief and nonsense to this board on a daily basis, you need to be traded.

Edit: I forgot to add "sorry, it's the truth."
 
I don't think KP ever intended to get Carter at all, but just to drive up the price for him. I remember him almost laugh at a question about Carter in an interview after the deadline.

He was asked how many beers he would have had to drink to trade for Carter. His answer: "many".
 
I highly doubt that trade was on the table. Wasn't all the talk at the deadline about NJ's reluctance for giving up GS' draft pick? And now they'd give us Dallas' as well, plus just get cap savings in Raef?

I call bullshit on that one. If that was all NJ's asking price for Vince, they would've gotten rid of him somewhere else.


Totally. Thorn was whining about Portland insisting on GS's pick, and now the story is the team turned it down. This is damage control for Thorn, who had one job to do at the deadline (trade Carter and free up $25 million in cap space this summer), and instead failed miserably.
 
Alex, there you go with your reasoning and logic again. When will you learn that there's no room for that here; if you can't consistently bring panic, grief and nonsense to this board on a daily basis, you need to be traded.

Edit: I forgot to add "sorry, it's the truth."

Sorry. How about this?

"Its Official: Kevin Pritchard is teh asshole

Its unreal peple think 4 gmaes is a lock. printt those tixets...."
 
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I don't think KP ever intended to get Carter at all, but just to drive up the price for him. I remember him almost laugh at a question about Carter in an interview after the deadline.

I thought I heard KP after the deadline answer a question about how many beers would he have had to drink to trade for VC and he said a lot.
 
I think the hard reality is that Paul Allen can no longer afford to take on massive salaries. I don't think he is going to go over the luxury tax level again unless that player makes a title almost a sure thing.

Though I think Carter wouldn't be a bad addition, no way he ensures a title. He might have been enough to get over the top in a playoff series, but not much more then that. So I can see KP turning this down for purely financial reasons.

I think much of the NBA, Portland included, will not go over the cap anymore. It seems to me Portland has the team they are going to have for the most part. Any addition will be of the budget veteran type. The free-agents-to-be this summer are going to find themselves taking huge pay cuts if they get signed at all.
 
Sorry. How about this?

"Its Official: Kevin Pritchard is teh asshole

Its unreal peple think 4 gmaes is a lock. printt those tixets...."

Close; nice try but your spelling is too good and if you really want to get people's attention, you have to randomly bold shit like this!

edit: oh hell, bold the WHOLE reply for an even more spectacular effect!!!
 
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The ignore feature is better than nothing, but it does have its flaws. I don't like to put people on ignore, because it makes the threads harder to read and understand. Besides, I want to hear peoples opinions and not filter our just those that I agree with.

That said, I think certain posters have completely crossed the line with their constant negativity. There is a difference with stating your opinions, and essentially trolling. It has certainly reduced the amount of time I spend on this board.

So I am stuck between using the ignore feature, which I don't like, and putting up with trolls. Thus far I would rather put up with the trolls, but either option is annoying.

If I was a regular at a bar or restaurant, and another regular was always there shouting and getting into fights...I wouldn't want to just "ignore" him, nor would I want to listen to him and put up with him. I would hope the bar manager would 86 him for the good of the establishment. Why doesn't that happen here?

He's defended by moderators on here so he isn't going anywhere unfortunately. BUT if the Blazers win in Hou or SA on this upcoming road trip, he has agreed to LEAVE the board for ONE WEEK. Isn't that right Mixum?
 
There was some interesting stuff on BlazersEdge about Paul Allen's finances and if he can really take on the extra salaries. He'll certainly pay for Roy/LMA/Oden but not for an aging Vince or guys who he thinks won't take them to the next level.

In short order:

* Charter Communications, the cable company that Allen is said to have a 50% stake in, has filed for bankruptcy, after not making interest payments of $73 million dollars. The bankruptcy reduced the company's debt by 8 billion dollars. Reportedly, Charter had 21 billion dollars in long term debt. For a look at Charter's stock price free fall, click here. Allen did receive some much-needed good news regarding Charter in the form of President Obama's stimulus bill -- which should net him some tax savings.
* Last month, Paul Allen reportedly laid off 50 employees at Vulcan, 9 percent of the total staff.
* Here's Microsoft's stock price history. As recently as April 2008, Microsoft was trading at 31. Today, it trades at 17. According to the most recent report I could find, Paul Allen owned 136 million shares of Microsoft stock as recently as 2006. Obviously this number could have changed dramatically in the last 3 years. But that stake, at last April's stock price, would have been worth roughly 4.2 billion dollars. Based on today's stock price, that holding would be worth roughly 2.2 billion dollars.
* On Valentine's Day it was announced that Paul Allen sold off his remaining stake in DreamWorks Animation Studio, ending a fifteen year business relationship.

http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/2/24/768932/paul-allen-s-money-trouble

Something worth pondering. The guy is still a multi-billionaire but he's still going to run his business and when the time comes to spend to win a title or improve the team, he's proven he'll do it.
 
CAUSE THE LAST 3 GAMES WERE VS 2 OF THE WORST TEAMS IN THE NBA. And the hawks were destroyed by utah.
The clippers were wout zach, thorton, camby. Im supposed to think all is well and pritchard proved me wrong lol?

Atlanta one of the worst teams in the NBA? Ok...
 
Close; nice try but your spelling is too good and if you really want to get people's attention, you have to randomly bold shit like this!

Dammit! I knew there was something I was missing... It must be painful trying to be fake all the time.
 
Blake and Outlaw are in a similar position to Stackhouse. Together they are slated to make $7.6 million next season. However, their salaries are not guaranteed for the season. That means a team could trade for Blake and Outlaw and, if they chose to waive them, would cut $7.6 million from their salaries. Both players have big roles on the Blazers, but Kevin Pritchard could be inclined to trade them if the package was sweet enough.

I don't think that's true. They're slated to make that much only if Portland exercises their team-option year. If Portland does this, their salary is guaranteed. A team can not now trade for these players until after the July Moratorium either. A team could waive them once they've acquired them via trade, but those contracts are guaranteed.

Am I right?
 
Why didn't the LAST 3 games prove he was correct for standing pat with this squad? Why will the next 4 games prove he was wrong?


Serious question: how long do you think we can go with Pryz as our only real center? Joel is most effective when you limit his minutes.
 
This couldn't have been a real offer simply becuase the Nets don't own a GS 1st round pick, unless you think the Ws are going to make the playoffs. If the Warriors continue to fall in the lottery, it's 2 second round picks.

Even if Portland agreed to take whatever pick the Nets end up getting from GS, is it even possible to trade another teams conditional picks?
 
Actually the MLE and the cap space with Raef , Channing and Fuffin is pretty close. about 1.5 more I think than the MLE.
they haven't set the 2009-10 cap yet, so we have only guesses where the Blazers are going to be in relation to it or what the MLE will be. Anyone know when the league typically announces this?

STOMP
 
This couldn't have been a real offer simply becuase the Nets don't own a GS 1st round pick, unless you think the Ws are going to make the playoffs. If the Warriors continue to fall in the lottery, it's 2 second round picks.

Even if Portland agreed to take whatever pick the Nets end up getting from GS, is it even possible to trade another teams conditional picks?

Maybe it's this pick they were talking about:
New Jersey receives 2011 Golden State first round pick (lottery protected in 2011, top 11 protected in 2012, top 10 protected in 2013. *If it is not conveyed by 2013, the Nets get second-round picks in 2013 and 2015).

And I don't see why you can't trade conditional picks. You just take over the rights of the conditions of the pick.
 
The ignore feature is better than nothing, but it does have its flaws. I don't like to put people on ignore, because it makes the threads harder to read and understand. Besides, I want to hear peoples opinions and not filter our just those that I agree with.

That said, I think certain posters have completely crossed the line with their constant negativity. There is a difference with stating your opinions, and essentially trolling. It has certainly reduced the amount of time I spend on this board.

So I am stuck between using the ignore feature, which I don't like, and putting up with trolls. Thus far I would rather put up with the trolls, but either option is annoying.

If I was a regular at a bar or restaurant, and another regular was always there shouting and getting into fights...I wouldn't want to just "ignore" him, nor would I want to listen to him and put up with him. I would hope the bar manager would 86 him for the good of the establishment. Why doesn't that happen here?

Ha! This is the first time I've ever replied to my own post.

Anyways...the more I think about this, the more curious I am. Is there a Mod that can answer my question from the quote above? I'm not trying to start controversy, I'm genuinely interested in the answer.
 
Ha! This is the first time I've ever replied to my own post.

Anyways...the more I think about this, the more curious I am. Is there a Mod that can answer my question from the quote above? I'm not trying to start controversy, I'm genuinely interested in the answer.

I'm guessing job security??? Without that blatant troll, there would be too much bliss and harmony here and we can't have that now, can we?
 

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