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I would cry. Im heavily invested both emotionally and financially…


Edit: crap. Does anyone know how to shrink up a vid size like pictures, to be small enough to post here?
With pics, i email myself to resize, but the video i want to post isn't providing that option.
 
The seal of approval on Sharpe seems pretty set.

Simons is merely one the best shooters in the NBA, and he’s not THAT short … but his below average D … and he has value. The idea of Simons plus the 3rd frigging pick not getting a serious forward to go with Grant? There’s good reason to have hope — Dame + Sharpe + Grant + incoming Stud … Getting 3 was so lucky!
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Giannis or if we get two of Bridges Brown Embiid Siakam. Those are the only players I trade Sharpe for.

Yeah those are all extremely unlikely trades - that's the point, he's nearly untradable.

I trade #3 or Dame before Sharpe.
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I would include Shaedon in a trade for Embiid. It would suck to see him go and I'd much rather it be Ant, Nurk, Nas, picks 3 and 23 (guarantee the Bulls our pick in 2024 by sending them a future second) 2025 pick swap, 2026 first, 2027 swap, 2028 first, 2029 swap, 2030 first.

If they got Shae I wouldn't want to give them anything but him, Ant, Nurk and pick 3.
 
HoopsFanAZ said:
The seal of approval on Sharpe seems pretty set.

Simons is merely one the best shooters in the NBA, and he’s not THAT short … but his below average D … and he has value. The idea of Simons plus the 3rd frigging pick not getting a serious forward to go with Grant? There’s good reason to have hope — Dame + Sharpe + Grant + incoming Stud … Getting 3 was so lucky!
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ASSUMING we can get a "stud"... we still may not get home court advantage this year, and we'll be paying out the wazoo for Dame, Grant, and "stud" for the privilege.

The reality is that some Blazers fans tell themselves that Siakam would make a big difference the same way they told themselves Grant would make a big difference. Siakam would be better (he BETTER be, if we're giving up Simons and a likely future star) but the team still would not be very good.
 
Ed O said:
ASSUMING we can get a "stud"... we still may not get home court advantage this year, and we'll be paying out the wazoo for Dame, Grant, and "stud" for the privilege.

The reality is that some Blazers fans tell themselves that Siakam would make a big difference the same way they told themselves Grant would make a big difference. Siakam would be better (he BETTER be, if we're giving up Simons and a likely future star) but the team still would not be very good.
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If you got Siakam and pick 13 for Ant, Nas and pick 3 then you would still have Nurks salary pick 13, pick 23, the GP2 TPE, if we wanted all of our future FRPs starting in 2026 and swaps starting in 2025 to try and build an immediately contending roster. You can get some pretty damn good rotation players to go with Dame, Shaedon, Grant and Siakam with all of those assets.
 
HoopsFanAZ said:
The seal of approval on Sharpe seems pretty set.

Simons is merely one the best shooters in the NBA, and he’s not THAT short … but his below average D … and he has value. The idea of Simons plus the 3rd frigging pick not getting a serious forward to go with Grant? There’s good reason to have hope — Dame + Sharpe + Grant + incoming Stud … Getting 3 was so lucky!
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Don't you know we're getting Jaylen Brown for Ant + #3 ?
 
BlazerBender said:
I would cry. Im heavily invested both emotionally and financially…


Edit: crap. Does anyone know how to shrink up a vid size like pictures, to be small enough to post here?
With pics, i email myself to resize, but the video i want to post isn't providing that option.
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Upload the video to YouTube. Then provide the link (click on the Share button below the video you've uploaded) here, the thumbnail of the video will appear as seen below.
No need to shorten the video.
 
Ed O said:
ASSUMING we can get a "stud"... we still may not get home court advantage this year, and we'll be paying out the wazoo for Dame, Grant, and "stud" for the privilege.

The reality is that some Blazers fans tell themselves that Siakam would make a big difference the same way they told themselves Grant would make a big difference. Siakam would be better (he BETTER be, if we're giving up Simons and a likely future star) but the team still would not be very good.
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Reasonable enough.
But trade Dame and lose the trade. That’s what happens, but sometimes it’s better than getting nothing — LMA — but expect the loss, regardless.
Then, with even a Jaylen Brown turning 27 in return with Grant re-signed (or maybe sign and traded for lesser assets), then build around young players who aren’t top players until they’re in their mid-20s (if they ever become studs) which means LIKELY sucking for several year in hopes of building a contender … as we’ve seen other teams suck for years on their build-up.

With a Brown or Bridges or Siakam for Ant + 3 (expect an overpay because Cronin expects others to see it that way) … Portland will have their best forwards since Sheed and a superstar guard and an exception to the 19 year old in Sharpe. And they’re not done building, still.

If others see mediocrity IF Cronin can swing the BIG deal, then there’s nothing to really argue about. It works or not, and if not the pieces are traded off for a total rebuild and sucking and tanking …

No BIG deal gets done? That will suck. But that BIG deal or Plan B is hopefully done during the draft.
 
they always say players are first to know if young guys can become stars.

like when every superstar in the league was blowing smoke up Devin Booker's ass when he was losing 60 games a year.
 
HoopsFanAZ said:
Reasonable enough. But trade Dame and lose the trade. That’s what happens, but sometimes it’s better than getting nothing
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I truly don't get how you're trying to frame this holds any logical water. The only way they trade Dame this offseason is if he demands a trade plus they get an offer they want. If they keep the pick, does Dame demand a trade?

If they keep the pick, that should be a whole lot more then nothing. If they choose to trade Dame because he demanded out, again they get back a whole lot more then nothing.

Portland management is not between a rock and a hard place

STOMP
 
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STOMP said:
The only way they trade Dame this offseason is if he demands a trade plus they get an offer they want. If they keep the pick, does Dame demand a trade?
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I think Dame would demand a trade only if Cronin didn't add any veterans at all. Scoot or Miller should be more ready to contribute than Sharpe was this past season. Dame will see that if he attends the workouts.
Sharpe's going to be better next season than he was his rookie season. That by itself adds talent to the roster.
 
blazerfan11 said:
I think Dame would demand a trade only if Cronin didn't add any veterans at all. Scoot or Miller should be more ready to contribute than Sharpe was this past season. Dame will see that if he attends the workouts. Sharpe's going to be better next season than he was his rookie season. That by itself adds talent to the roster.
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While I reserve the right to change my mind as I'm still digging through things, I don't think Scoot makes it to #3. If so, I'm guessing they pass on Miller and take Walker who (IMO) is not only at least as good a prospect, but would make them better in the short term.

STOMP
 
illmatic99 said:
they always say players are first to know if young guys can become stars.

like when every superstar in the league was blowing smoke up Devin Booker's ass when he was losing 60 games a year.
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I know it's super cliche......... but game recognize game.
 
STOMP said:
While I reserve the right to change my mind as I'm still digging through things, I don't think Scoot makes it to #3. If so, I'm guessing they pass on Miller and take Walker who (IMO) is not only at least as good a prospect, but would make them better in the short term.

STOMP
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Walker is considerably lower rated than the top 4 guys. I would be prepared to root for Walker if he was drafted here, because I trust Schmitz. But I would hope it’s trading down to #5 with more assets coming back to us.
 
Ed O said:
ASSUMING we can get a "stud"... we still may not get home court advantage this year, and we'll be paying out the wazoo for Dame, Grant, and "stud" for the privilege.

The reality is that some Blazers fans tell themselves that Siakam would make a big difference the same way they told themselves Grant would make a big difference. Siakam would be better (he BETTER be, if we're giving up Simons and a likely future star) but the team still would not be very good.
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OK Eddy. Absolutes are okie dokie when you're spewing them.
 
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Dude is probably our SF of the future (I said as much, even when people claimed he should only be SG) depending on what we do in this draft. At the very least, people writing it off as shouldn't happen are going to look foolish. "Play him at Center then" - famous quote by Bobby Knight when people wanted to pass on Jordan.
 
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Lol i was getting so much shade here by some of you for saying Shaedon can still grow last yr and be a mainstay SF.

6'8 is tough to believe but sure why not.
 
illmatic99 said:
Lol i was getting so much shade here by some of you for saying Shaedon can still grow last yr and be a mainstay SF.

6'8 is tough to believe but sure why not.
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Do you have any concerns that too much too quick and may affect his agility, etc?

sometimes a quick spurt causes people to lose their balance and what not?

im a bit concerned
 
Driew said:
It's three inches I'm sure he'll be fine
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I went from 5’10” to 6’3” from age 15-17. It totally knocked me off my sports balance. My senior year in high school i was a walking toothpick and lost all my dribbling handles.

now im not saying im anything like sharpe but to say its just three inches is minimizing the potential effects a growth spurt like that can have on coordination.
 
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