Do we need to trade for another big?

[Rastapopoulos]

Now we know that Oden is out indefinitely, and Joel probably shouldn't come back for a while, are we seriously going into the season with a frontcourt rotation of Camby (not exactly a famous iron man), Aldridge and Pendergraph? (Especially given Pendergraph's, um, erratic play in Summer league?)

Personally I hope Cho is trying his hardest to move some of our guards for a big. I'm still intrigued by Varejao, and I have to think that Cleveland would be tempted to part with him for more scoring, but I also read that Denver are interested and would be happy to get him back as part of a larger Melo trade. Any suggestions (other than Hasheem Thabeet, of course)?

 

[MIXUM]

depends on pryz. if he can be back by mid november... no. if hes out till mid - late december.... yes.

forget oden at this point. guy isnt sure if he will be back by xmas. that should tell you all you need to know.

pendergraph blows. if we count on him we're dead anyway. with camby being injury prone and LA getting major minutes...id say get dampier ASAP. Cant hurt.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Man this is freaking me out, Mixum hit every point I was going to bring up.

As for whom they should get, I have no idea. Dampier is available, but I've never been a huge fan ... better than the alternative of a Camby-Penderstiff rotation though.

 

[MIXUM]

ya know what nic... i will give everyone a bold prediction here.

pryz is ready by early november making oden look like a bigger joke. how can a guy who had his knee blow up twice be closer to returning then oden who had his injury earlier and only once? that is just scary bad.

 

[STOMP]

Wasn't Cunningham ahead of Pendergraph in the rotation last year... and didn't he log virtually all of his minutes at the 4 spot?

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[PtldPlatypus]

ya know what nic... i will give everyone a bold prediction here.

pryz is ready by early november making oden look like a bigger joke. how can a guy who had his knee blow up twice be closer to returning then oden who had his injury earlier and only once? that is just scary bad.

I was actually thinking about starting a new thread with a poll based on this very question--who will play in a game first this year, Oden or Przybilla. I think more and more are coming to the conclusion that it will be Joel.

 

[Draco]

I was actually thinking about starting a new thread with a poll based on this very question--who will play in a game first this year, Oden or Przybilla. I think more and more are coming to the conclusion that it will be Joel.

But what if Pryz plays first but is a diminished player whereas Oden takes longer to return but makes a complete recovery? I would love for the guys to be healthy now, I'm dissapointed Oden is recovering so slowly, but in the end I only care about actual contributions on the basketball court.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

PLEASE follow the ground rules:
DO NOT quote MIXUM. Do not respond to MIXUM. Otherwise it spoils life for the majority of us who have him/her/it on ignore.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Man this is freaking me out, Mixum hit every point I was going to bring up.

Death is the only option at this point.

As for whom they should get, I have no idea. Dampier is available, but I've never been a huge fan ... better than the alternative of a Camby-Penderstiff rotation though.

So are you saying release Rudy (and Mills of course)? Because we don't have a roster spot. And you're assuming Dampier has no better offers.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

PLEASE follow the ground rules:
DO NOT quote MIXUM. Do not respond to MIXUM. Otherwise it spoils life for the majority of us who have him/her/it on ignore.

Then you might want to put me on ignore too. Nice knowing you.

 

[BGrantFan]

Man this is freaking me out, Mixum hit every point I was going to bring up.

As for whom they should get, I have no idea. Dampier is available, but I've never been a huge fan ... better than the alternative of a Camby-Penderstiff rotation though.

I'm wondering who will sign Dampier. If the answer is "nobody", then the Blazers may as well see what they have from Pendergraph as an emergency center, and sign Damp in a few weeks if Li'l Bit won't be able to be effective. I'd hate to cut somebody for Dampier, though.

 

[BGrantFan]

PLEASE follow the ground rules:
DO NOT quote MIXUM. Do not respond to MIXUM. Otherwise it spoils life for the majority of us who have him/her/it on ignore.

Don't you admit to having at least 11 posters on ignore? I'm guessing I'm one of them, but it does explain why you bring up points after the same points have already been posted by others.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

In general, teams do not trade their bigs for guards- unless there's a darn compelling reason. And what guards would we trade that have any real value? The only two we have we'd trade with any value are Roy (and that ain't gonna happen) and Miller (but that would leave us without a PG- and don't ANY of you knuckleheads even suggest Bayless as out PG. just keep drinking your dad's vodka and keep your mouths shut until you learn the NBA).

So it's a 5% chance we're going to do that.

We might get away with trading Babbitt and a guard for a big.

 

[MickZagger]

If we have to rely on Pendergraph for any kind of minutes we are going to be in trouble. The guy was brutal last year, he was even more brutal to watch in summer league. Sure he might have ADD and look like he's bad sometimes, but the guy sucks!

 

[BrianFromWA]

We wouldn't need to trade to get Dampier.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

We wouldn't need to trade to get Dampier.

True. But we'd have to lose a contract- like rudy?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Then you might want to put me on ignore too. Nice knowing you.

Fair enough, but it's getting to the point that I'm seeing entire threads of "this message is hidden". I can't really say I feel like I'm missing out, though.

 

[blazerboy30]

In general, teams do not trade their bigs for guards- unless there's a darn compelling reason. And what guards would we trade that have any real value? The only two we have we'd trade with any value are Roy (and that ain't gonna happen) and Miller (but that would leave us without a PG- and don't ANY of you knuckleheads even suggest Bayless as out PG. just keep drinking your dad's vodka and keep your mouths shut until you learn the NBA).

So it's a 5% chance we're going to do that.

We might get away with trading Babbitt and a guard for a big.

You're right. No team would ever trade a big, like Camby, for smalls, like Blake and Outlaw.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

You're right. No team would ever trade a big, like Camby, for smalls, like Blake and Outlaw.

Read my post, boy.

And, oh, yeah, psssssssssssssssst- Outlaw isn't a guard.

Just thought you'd like to know for future reference.

 

[hasoos]

Kevin Love just hurt his knee. Perfect time to trade for him. Maybe we can stockpile all of the big gimps in the league.

 

[BrianFromWA]

there aren't a lot of big-for-small trades, and almost none where both teams don't get a position of need back (see Ford-for-Villanueva).

 

[BrianFromWA]

Kevin Love just hurt his knee. Perfect time to trade for him. Maybe we can stockpile all of the big gimps in the league.

I'm down with that. Better than stockpiling end-of-the-bench combo guards, imho.

 

[blazerboy30]

Read my post, boy.

I did. It was filled with unfounded conjecture and false "facts", all while you told other posters to "just keep drinking your dad's vodka and keep your mouths shut until you learn the NBA", making you look foolish... boy.

And, oh, yeah, psssssssssssssssst- Outlaw isn't a guard.

Just thought you'd like to know for future reference.

bigs, smalls, guards, forwards. Semantics. Outlaw certainly isn't a "big". The obvious message of your lame post was "teams don't trade bigs for smalls". Which we've experienced is wrong.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Camby 6'11 PF/C
Outlaw 6'9 PF/SF

And from what I read, he said "generally". Aside from the two trades brought up here, do you remember a plethora of "big-for-small" trades?

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Camby 6'11 PF/C
Outlaw 6'9 PF/SF

And from what I read, he said "generally". Aside from the two trades brought up here, do you remember a plethora of "big-for-small" trades?

He got caught and had to try and justify his way out.

Epic fail.

It happens to all of us occasionally.

 

[MickZagger]

Fair enough, but it's getting to the point that I'm seeing entire threads of "this message is hidden". I can't really say I feel like I'm missing out, though.

Did you wear ear plugs at school growing up?

 

[blazerboy30]

Camby 6'11 PF/C
Outlaw 6'9 PF/SF

Durant is 6'11". He' ain't a "big". What's your point?

And from what I read, he said "generally". Aside from the two trades brought up here, do you remember a plethora of "big-for-small" trades?

He, the one that supposedly said "generally", is also the guy who put a concrete number of 5% in his post. I don't need to list a plethora of trades to show that it is incredibly ignorant and foolish to say:

So it's a 5% chance we're going to do that.

while calling other posters knuckleheads and saying they need to learn the NBA.

 

[blazerboy30]

He got caught and had to try and justify his way out.

You're right. I did get caught calling out your faulty "logic". I use the word logic very generously here.

Epic fail.

Oh, look at you. Trying to use that hip, new interwebs language those young kids are using these days. How cute.

It happens to all of us occasionally.

Some of you more (a lot more) than others.

 

[jlprk]

"Do we need to trade for another big?"

WHY oh WHY didn't we keep Juwan Howard???

The biggest mistake of the summer.

 

[STOMP]

Camby 6'11 PF/C
Outlaw 6'9 PF/SF

just for reference... while those are their listed heights, Camby's 6'11 was his barefoot measured height at his pre-draft. For some reason Outlaw's predraft stuff isn't listed at the usual spots, but (for what it's worth) I recall him being measured at 6'7.5 barefoot with a 7'2 wingspan. There used to be a link that I could pass along that listed him with other guys from that draft but it seems to have dried up.

... if TO is a Big, then what is Dante? He's certainly bigger then Travis, he bangs/boards better. He logged nearly 100% of his minutes at PF last year. 2nd time I've posed this question in this thread... why is DC as a Big not worthy of a mention while Pendergraph is? Oh and Babbitt is at least as much of a Big as Travis too

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