Trade Idea Do you want to trade for Harden?

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Bring Harden to Rip City?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 18.2%

  • No

    Votes: 27 81.8%
  • Total voters
    33
We don't have the assets to get him. Unless we feel ok with trading CJ+Nurk+a million pick swaps and I'm pretty sure just Ben Simmons is more appealing than all this.
 
The only thing we have they'd want is Dame, and that's a non-starter. We also couldn't trade Covington.

So I answered Yes. Because whatever we'd give up would be such a goddamned bargain you do it immediately and figure shit out later. Dame + Harden would be the best offensive backcourt ever(?)

Plus Covington and a bunch of scrubs.

That's really not a lot worse than what the Lakers had to work with when they got AD.

It'd never happen. But I wouldn't mind it at all if it did.
 
We'd have to gut the team, CJ, Trent, and probably 4 first round picks or swaps.

I dont think he's a big enough upgrade as Dame and Hardin have duplicate advantages.

We need more wings, I'd rather use those picks to get another wing and keep Trent.

Plus Hardin is a punk and watching him scam refs is stupid.

I voted No. Where is the Fuck NO option?
 
I love hypotheticals but at this point we should discuss real potentials...

Unless the objective is to NOT foretell what we do.
 
I wish there was a trade ideas thread this could be combined with....
otherwise we will have a thread for every outlandish trade that goes through some peoples heads...
 
We don't win a Championship unless we get a real 2nd SUPERstar, not just Star, a damn SUPERSTAR. At least top 10 Player. Neither CJ or Nurk is one of that caliber
 
Labinot41 said:
We don't win a Championship unless we get a real 2nd SUPERstar, not just Star, a damn SUPERSTAR. At least top 10 Player. Neither CJ or Nurk is one of that caliber
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But having a 2nd SUPERstar doesn't necessarily mean a team will win. Harden and Westbrook are both superstars, they didn't win. George and Leonard are both superstars, they didn't win. LeBron, Wade and Bosh only one 50% of the time they were teammates.

I think having a better balanced team is more important than having 2 Superstars and a bunch of scrubs.
 
I would hate to watch him play but the value is just too great. Doubt it would get us closer to a title
 
Labinot41 said:
We don't win a Championship unless we get a real 2nd SUPERstar, not just Star, a damn SUPERSTAR. At least top 10 Player. Neither CJ or Nurk is one of that caliber
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That's another absolutist take from you. They're getting old. We can definitely win a championship with one superstar surrounded by great role players and one other star/all-star, it's just that that second star needs to be complementary to Dame's game not detrimental like CJ is. Also, lets not pretend to know Nurk's ceiling.
 
blazerkor said:
That's another absolutist take from you. They're getting old. We can definitely win a championship with one superstar surrounded by great role players and one other star/all-star, it's just that that second star needs to be complementary to Dame's game not detrimental like CJ is. Also, lets not pretend to know Nurk's ceiling.
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No it's absolutely not, the NBA is a Superstar league, tell me the last time a team has won with one Superstar and a good team? Dirk in 2011, but time has changed since back then dramaticly
 
Labinot41 said:
No it's absolutely not, the NBA is a Superstar league, tell me the last time a team has won with one Superstar and a good team? Dirk in 2011, but time has changed since back then dramaticly
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Toronto just last season. Kawhi was the only Superstar.
 
RR7 said:
Toronto just last season. Kawhi was the only Superstar.
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I agree, i would say that team was better than the 2011 mavs team though, Siakam was a star in the making and the other players were really good. But they dont win the Championship without KD and Klay going down
 
illmatic99 said:
I would hate to watch him play but the value is just too great. Doubt it would get us closer to a title
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That's why we would totally make a trade that got us Harden, especially if it was on the cheap and then flip him for an all-nba level player that actually fits with Dame. I could see a scenario where we trade CJ, Zach and 2 first rounders to Houston for Harden. Then we trade Harden to the Sixers for Simmons and Zhaire Smith. Now you might ask yourself why would the Rockets take CJ, Zach and picks for Harden when they could have just got Simmons and filler? The answer to that is simple... they wouldn't.
 
Labinot41 said:
No it's absolutely not, the NBA is a Superstar league, tell me the last time a team has won with one Superstar and a good team? Dirk in 2011, but time has changed since back then dramaticly
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Has it though... that Dirk team beat the Heatles... three superstars. The game never changes that much. Neither Klay or Draymond are or ever were top ten players, so I guess their championship doesn't count. Wait, who else was top ten on the Raptors when they won it with Kawhi? Who was the other superstar with an over the hill Tim Duncan in 2014? The only all-nba team player they had that season was Tony Parker and he wasn't a superstar, Kawhi wasn't a superstar yet and Duncan was old and not on an all-nba team but somehow they managed to win the title and put the three superstar Heatles down for good. I guess three championships since the league changed so drastically nine seasons ago isn't enough to think that a team without two top ten players could possibly win a championship.

That shit up there about Siakam is really something else. First you tell me "at least top 10" and then it's like... oh but Siakam was on the rise, on the rise to what? Do you think Siakam is or ever will be at least top 10?
 
Yes, if you have the chance to bring in a top 10 player, you do it.

However, the only reason to trade Harden is if you want to go young, and while I am very high
on our younger players, they are not hot commodities league wide. So, the Rockets wouldn't be
interested.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Yes, if you have the chance to bring in a top 10 player, you do it.

However, the only reason to trade Harden is if you want to go young, and while I am very high
on our younger players, they are not hot commodities league wide. So, the Rockets wouldn't be
interested.
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No way Harden and Dame would co-exist.
 
blazerkor said:
Has it though... that Dirk team beat the Heatles... three superstars. The game never changes that much. Neither Klay or Draymond are or ever were top ten players, so I guess their championship doesn't count. Wait, who else was top ten on the Raptors when they won it with Kawhi? Who was the other superstar with an over the hill Tim Duncan in 2014? The only all-nba team player they had that season was Tony Parker and he wasn't a superstar, Kawhi wasn't a superstar yet and Duncan was old and not on an all-nba team but somehow they managed to win the title and put the three superstar Heatles down for good. I guess three championships since the league changed so drastically nine seasons ago isn't enough to think that a team without two top ten players could possibly win a championship.

That shit up there about Siakam is really something else. First you tell me "at least top 10" and then it's like... oh but Siakam was on the rise, on the rise to what? Do you think Siakam is or ever will be at least top 10?
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Toronto doesn't win the Championship without KD and Klay getting injured. They were really lucky in the finals. I'm just saying as great as Dame is we need another Superstar to increase the chances of winning a Chip, and i take JHarden immediatly
 
Labinot41 said:
Toronto doesn't win the Championship without KD and Klay getting injured. They were really lucky in the finals. I'm just saying as great as Dame is we need another Superstar to increase the chances of winning a Chip, and i take JHarden immediatly
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Dude, come up with whatever justifications you want. You were dead wrong. Teams can still win championships as teams. The game hasn't changed. Teams need real talent in order to win but that talent can be concentrated in two players or spread out over seven. Teams can win either of those ways or some way in between those. You like to speak in absolutes and that is absolutely foolish.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
based on what?
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Both need the ball in their hands and both think they should get the last shot. If Dames would be ok with 50% fewer shots and maybe become of a distributor first PG I guess there is a chance it could work.
Just my opinion is all. None of us in here no anything for certain when it comes to round ball at this level.
 
Fuck no. One of my least favorite stars ever. There’s only one ball
 
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