Donaghy ESPN interview

[STOMP]

Names Rasheed (among several players) he and other refs singled out to make suffer. I thought the most damning section of this video was the last few quotes

STOMP

 

[BenDavis503]

I am glad that this is all getting out.

 

[BenDavis503]

Why is no one commenting on this? This is HUGE news.

The last part of the story is the worst. Yikes. Hard to be a fan after that.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

If I'm Sheed, I file a lawsuit. I want all of my fines refunded immediately. This is fucking horse shit.

 

[Buzz Killington]

We all knew this.

 

[Blazed Mania 52]

Well gotta thank those refs for my depression that first started in 2000....

 

[Crimson the Cat]

We all knew this.

We had an idea that this was possibly happening, but we didn't have this sort of unequivocal proof.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

"I don't believe it's a true athletic competition." - Donaghy

 

[blue32]

What can we do about it? The NBA seems to not give a shit, and portray Tim to be a lying POS, even though the FBI says he's fully cooperated.

So how can we put pressure on the NBA to change their reffing policies, etc? I would love to have some changes to make it fair. Hell bring back the replacements, at least to my perception, they were less biased and didn't do the "Star" treatment.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

Refs hated Sheed = Refs punished Sheed by hurting the team he played for = Portland would have won 2000 WCF vs. Lakers = Portland HAS two NBA championships.

Fuck the NBA. I'm celebrating Portland's second championship the rest of the year.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

I think Donaghy is partially playing to the common sentiment among fans that there is star treatment and that the NBA values entertainment over fair competition. Any 12 year old watching the NBA could have said what Donaghy did at the end. If he had said that he was the one, rogue ref and that everything is okay... no one would buy his book.

Then again, it's hard not to believe someone corroborating the feelings you've had for years.

So, I don't know. I don't see the NBA changing any time soon. I've resigned to the fact that the Blazers are cursed, so whatever.

 

[Buzz Killington]

We had an idea that this was possibly happening, but we didn't have this sort of unequivocal proof.

any transcript?

 

[Crimson the Cat]

any transcript?

Not that I could find. Just the vid.

 

[maxiep]

I thought it was interesting he said he hasn't watched a game in two years. I understand his time in the joint, but he doesn't care about hoops now?

 

[maxiep]

As for this interview, I only have one thing to say: "Ball Don't Lie!"

 

[maxiep]

I don't get the Chauncey hate by the refs.

 

[Paxil]

Nothing new. His biggest point is that you could call 20 fouls or 100 fouls in a game and be justified. We all know that. We also knew certain refs have preferences. We knew that. He just put all the information that is out there to use for his own benefit. (Well... and the mobs)

Since he was approached by the mob and his family threatened if he didn't give them the picks... you have to believe that other refs were also approached. Has the NBA ever had a ref report that happened? Not that I have ever heard admitted. But logically... other refs must have been approached. It defies logic to think that just one was.

Also... the NBA knows darn well things like people pay to see stars... so you don't want stars to foul out of games. This can actually *create* a star... they get away with more... they get more calls etc... and the NBA makes more money. A friend of mine had a friend in college who went to some NBA ref training camp... and they made it clear that the NBA doesn't want stars fouling out of games. We've seen it time after time when a star has 5 fouls and then commits 6th... mysteriously it is called on the next closest player. That shit happens over and over.

Anyway... I believe what he is saying. I think there are probably worse things going on too.

What is amazingly sad is his 70-80% success against the spread. That is an amazing success rate... and it definitely points to some manipulation.

 

[maxiep]

My favorite tech of all time was this one: [video=youtube;in-W5OuCmS4]

Luckily it was just the WCF, so the game was no big deal. :shakeshead:

 

[crowTrobot]

Refs hated Sheed = Refs punished Sheed by hurting the team he played for = Portland would have won 2000 WCF vs. Lakers

the refs weren't the reason we collapsed in the 4Q of game 7

 

[Buzz Killington]

Fuck Ron Garretson.

 

[Paxil]

Yeah... Rasheed gets a T for staring and didn't Jordan threaten a ref's job on the court if he called a T on him? Isn't there a clip of him daring a ref to call T?

 

[drexlersdad]

the refs weren't the reason we collapsed in the 4Q of game 7

I seem to remember sheer trying to post up a bunch at the start of the 4th and getting hacked every play.... And no calls

 

[Buzz Killington]

"What was done to Rasheed Wallace?"

We would see who gave him the technical foul the quickest.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

the refs weren't the reason we collapsed in the 4Q of game 7

There were questionable fouls throughout the fourth quarter. At one point it seemed like we were playing against six Lakers. This after all of the momentum leading up to the game was on our side.

We missed a ton of shots. But, were there non-calls on some of those shots. Were we not getting a fair shake on the defensive-end and it got into our heads?

You believe what you want. I'll believe what I want.

That Blazers' team won it all that year.

There, I feel better now.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

I seem to remember sheer trying to post up a bunch at the start of the 4th and getting hacked every play.... And no calls

Right, and remember Smitty getting hammered in the paint and another non-call, which I believe, consequently led to a fastbreak opportunity and score.

 

[hasoos]

the refs weren't the reason we collapsed in the 4Q of game 7

So that somehow makes it right?

 

[Crimson the Cat]

"What was done to Rasheed Wallace?"

We would see who gave him the technical foul the quickest.

Here's another thought. Take away the unfair treatment that year by the refs and would Portland have secured HCA? Would Pip and Sabas have been more rested down the stretch and not have to carry all of the load?

 

[Crimson the Cat]

How many championships were handed - arranged? - to the Lakers?

It could be argued that Sacramento was screwed as well.

 

[Buzz Killington]

That was actually the most egregious example. Blatantly obvious throwing of an NBA game.

 

[maxiep]

How many championships were handed - arranged? - to the Lakers?

It could be argued that Sacramento was screwed as well.

Cow Town should be pissed. Game 6 was the worst officiated game in NBA history.

Enjoy those two rings, L*ker fans. They're about as real as the tits on the L*ker girls.