Politics "Don't be fooled" by Trumps economy

[Lanny]

I have sold several homes recently to first time buyers who named Trump's tax cuts and his economic strategy as the reasons they were able to finally grasp the American Dream.

This proves that there are a lot of ignorant people in the world.

 

[Lanny]

Wow, did they reopen the La Pine Coal Mine at long last?

barfo

The General Store is booming.

 

[CupWizier]

The General Store is booming.

At this rate, in 10 more years La Pine might be as big as my high school when I graduated.

 

[MARIS61]

http://www.lapine.org/dbpages/DirectoryAlphaDB.php

 

[Gronk Brady]

There is no economic "boon" for the middle class. All but the rich got peanuts while the rich got caviar

What a bullshit liberal lie... Obama’s 8 years in office killed the middle class... Trumps policy’s are giving people in this country the ability to get back to the middle class with all the job that have been created... typical way of thinking... more concern with how rich people are doing than looking in the mirror and focusing on your own life... not realizing that the rich people and corporations are creating the job market that Obama tried to kill.... not realizing that less regulation makes it easier for them to start a business... instead this mentally enslaved mindset want you to think it’s better to pay more taxes in to wastfull government programs like Obama did so him, the Clintons and there friends can get rich abusing the system

 

[Gronk Brady]

More likely the 'Anti' party. I see them as devolving into a rejection of everything that's holding us together. Everything Obama did is being demolished with gusto. Even our Constitution is getting a work over.

Every thing Obama did?? Obama tried to turn this country into Venezuela... Trump is saving it just in time... Obama killed the middle class wit his tax, poor trade deals, and regulation... 4 more years of Obama and we all would be waiting in line to get bread

 

[Gronk Brady]

lol.

Seriously, how miserable that you are unhappy with our country’s economy thriving with record a unemployed, record stock market, and wages finally starting to increase... you ignore actual results for false liberal narratives to complain and make yourself feel better about losing the election... even Trump hating CNN is now giving Trump credit for the economy... you must be a really unhappy person

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

What a bullshit liberal lie... Obama’s 8 years in office killed the middle class... Trumps policy’s are giving people in this country the ability to get back to the middle class with all the job that have been created... typical liberal loon why of thinking... more concern with how rich people are doing than looking in the mirror and focusing on your own life... not realizing that the rich people and corporations are creating the job market that Obama tried to kill.... not realizing that less regulation makes it easier for them to start a business... instead this mentally enslaved moron liberal mindset want you to think it’s better to pay more taxes in to wastfull government programs like Obama did so him, the Clintons and there friends can get rich abusing the system

Every thing Obama did?? Obama tried to turn this country into Venezuela... Trump is saving it just in time... Obama killed the middle class wit his tax, poor trade deals, and regulation... 4 more years of Obama and we all would be waiting in line to get bread

Uh oh, seems as if someone started drinking a little too early this morning........

 

[Lanny]

http://www.lapine.org/dbpages/DirectoryAlphaDB.php

A lot of these are in Bend or Sunriver. I even saw one in Eugene and another in Christmas Valley.

By the way, there was a con man by the name of Charles Simmons back in 1961 that started Christmas Valley as part of a con game. How do I know? My mother was one of his marks. Tried to make a mark out of young Lanny but I quit going to the meetings. When I quit his henchman got up in front of the group and bad mouthed me. I wound up being the only one with any sense and the courage of my conviction to withstand their attempts to bring me back into the fold. It was this experience that made me wise to Trump and his con games, e.g. Trump University (LOL)

 

[Lanny]

Seriously, how miserable that you are unhappy with our country’s economy thriving with record a unemployed, record stock market, and wages finally starting to increase... you ignore actual results for false liberal narratives to complain and make yourself feel better about losing the election... even Trump hating CNN is now giving Trump credit for the economy... you must be a really unhappy person

I'm going to have to count this as a personal insult.

 

[Lanny]

lol, spoken like someone who is clueless.

Cup, how can I say someone is insulting you if you insult them? Neither is good.

 

[Lanny]

Every thing Obama did?? Obama tried to turn this country into Venezuela... Trump is saving it just in time... Obama killed the middle class wit his tax, poor trade deals, and regulation... 4 more years of Obama and we all would be waiting in line to get bread

They said this about Obama for eight years and yet here we are.

Now, an awful lot of people are saying that our country is being eroded at an accelerating rate. Could they all be wrong?

 

[Gronk Brady]

They said this about Obama for eight years and yet here we are.

Now, an awful lot of people are saying that our country is being eroded at an accelerating rate. Could they all be wrong?

“A lot of people are saying”... this is what I am talking about... you value an opinion more the the actual facts and results... the unemployment at 3.7% is a 49 year low - FACT, the stock market is at a record high - FACT, renogatiated trade deals that benefit US economy - Fact... why do you ignore the actual numbers and replace with opinions as fact... what is being eroded, and who are these people??

 

[Hoopguru]

Why cant we all just credit where credit is due?

Obama did some good things and this President is too.

 

[Gronk Brady]

Why cant we all just credit where credit is due?

Obama did some good things and this President is too.

What good thing did Obama do? Deliver 2 billion cash to Iran over night in a cargo plane without congress approval? Or corrupting the justice department for political gains, or regulations that killed businesses? Name one thing good and I will wait...

 

[Lanny]

“A lot of people are saying”... this is what I am talking about... you value an opinion more the the actual facts and results... the unemployment at 3.7% is a 49 year low - FACT, the stock market is at a record high - FACT, renogatiated trade deals that benefit US economy - Fact... why do you ignore the actual numbers and replace with opinions as fact... what is being eroded, and who are these people??

Okay, I learned in business that it's wise to seek out the advice of experts before leaping to a conclusion. I rely on my ability to find such experts. I would include the likes of Fareed Zakaria as an expert. Fareed is one who warns us about what's happening to our country and he explains why.

As for the economy, I have to conclude that Obama saved our economy from a worse disaster than the Great Depression and we are rolling along largely because of that.

Trump's contribution is from deregulation which has a terrible cost. For example, did you know that thanks to Trump it is now okay to dump mining tailings in our rivers and streams?

Did you know that coral is dying at an alarming rate due to Global Warming which our genius President says is a hoax? What about the sea level rise in Florida and Bangladesh? Water now bubbles up through man hole covers whenever we have a high tide in Miami. Hurricanes now do much more damage than ever before. Africa is undergoing a drought of monumental proportions. The stock market is up partially as a result of a huge windfall tax reduction on large corporations and the expense? The expense is that we are now $1.5 Trillion further in debt and there is no end in sight of our massive deficit.

Race relations couldn't be worse and children are being forcibly separated from their parents.

Mass shootings now occur more frequently than ever before.

Women are increasingly prohibited from legal abortion or even birth control. This is especially true of poor women.

The list is nearly endless.

We need that blue wave now.

 

[Lanny]

What good thing did Obama do? Deliver 2 billion cash to Iran over night in a cargo plane without congress approval? Or corrupting the justice department for political gains, or regulations that killed businesses? Name one thing good and I will wait...

That $2 Billion was owed to them.

There is absolutely zero evidence of the justice department being subverted until Trump came along. He is firing everyone until he gets someone who will act on his behalf. That's not how the Justice Department works, they uphold the Constitution not Trump.
Look how many indictments and convictions Mueller has. Yes, Mueller, you know, the Republican? Oh me, they're picking on Trump with all these convictions, many of which are guilty pleas, for crying out loud.

Come on November.

 

[Gronk Brady]

Okay, I learned in business that it's wise to seek out the advice of experts before leaping to a conclusion. I rely on my ability to find such experts. I would include the likes of Fareed Zakaria as an expert. Fareed is one who warns us about what's happening to our country and he explains why.

As for the economy, I have to conclude that Obama saved our economy from a worse disaster than the Great Depression and we are rolling along largely because of that.

Trump's contribution is from deregulation which has a terrible cost. For example, did you know that thanks to Trump it is now okay to dump mining tailings in our rivers and streams?

Did you know that coral is dying at an alarming rate due to Global Warming which our genius President says is a hoax? What about the sea level rise in Florida and Bangladesh? Water now bubbles up through man hole covers whenever we have a high tide in Miami. Hurricanes now do much more damage than ever before. Africa is undergoing a drought of monumental proportions. The stock market is up partially as a result of a huge windfall tax reduction on large corporations and the expense? The expense is that we are now $1.5 Trillion further in debt and there is no end in sight of our massive deficit.

Race relations couldn't be worse and children are being forcibly separated from their parents.

Mass shootings now occur more frequently than ever before.

Women are increasingly prohibited from legal abortion or even birth control. This is especially true of poor women.

The list is nearly endless.

We need that blue wave now.

Fareed Zakaria is a partisan hack... if you believe what he is saying as fact then there is no need for me to read further... but I did so I will reply

Race relations are worse because of liberal media like CNN... when Democrats can’t win on policy, they result to mudsliging and calling any republican racist with no basis... they know most people are too busy or lazy to research claims... that most people run with a headline as fact. Trump was in the public eye for 70 years and no one ever called him racist... he was seen hanging out with the likes of Don King, Mike Tyson and was being rapped about by every rapper... now he runs for president and he is all of a sudden racist... ok. This is the democratic playbook, identity politics... and since 90% of media is liberal they constantly push their message down your throat and ignorant people will believe it... so I put 100% of blame on media

As for shootings, I’m anti gun, so I won’t argue with you there.

For abortions, I don’t believe in them. Again, it’s media trying to spin this as pro choice... when the real choice is having responsible sex or giving child for adoption... ending the baby’s life should not be a choice

 

[Hoopguru]

What good thing did Obama do? Deliver 2 billion cash to Iran over night in a cargo plane without congress approval? Or corrupting the justice department for political gains, or regulations that killed businesses? Name one thing good and I will wait...

He did help get us out of a recession & lower unemployment rates substantially
Ended the War in Iraq
Got UBL
Help Save US Automakers
Nominated the first hispanic SCJ
Reduce our presence in Afg.
Shook up health care

I wasn't a big Obama fan because I always got he feeling he was not pro business and pro big government.
Im a libertarian that endorse small gov, pro business, and liberal to moderate on social issues.

Its a world market place more than ever and we need to help business small & large to prosper and compete in a world arena.

 

[Chris Craig]

@Gronk Brady and @CupWizier both of you chill it out with the insults

 

[Gronk Brady]

That $2 Billion was owed to them.

There is absolutely zero evidence of the justice department being subverted until Trump came along. He is firing everyone until he gets someone who will act on his behalf. That's not how the Justice Department works, they uphold the Constitution not Trump.
Look how many indictments and convictions Mueller has. Yes, Mueller, you know, the Republican? Oh me, they're picking on Trump with all these convictions, many of which are guilty pleas, for crying out loud.

Come on November.

You don’t pay back countries that are funding terrorist... and you don’t deliver money in cash in a cargo plane over night without anyone knowing... some shady shit right there.

Now to the justice department... this is what actually turned me from Democrat to Republican... when Loretta Lynch met with Bill Clinton on the tarmac while Hillary was under investigation... I watched the entire 6 hour congressional hearing of Lynch getting questioned... and I was so disgusted watching her avoid answering questions under oath, obviously hiding something... this was not someone’s opinion... I watched for myself... then soon after Donna Brazille was caught giving debate question to Hillary... the Democratic Party has no ethics and it’s quire frightening

 

[barfo]

What a bullshit liberal lie...

For someone who thinks he is 'winning' you sure come across as very angry.

barfo

 

[Gronk Brady]

For someone who thinks he is 'winning' you sure come across as very angry.

barfo

Not angry at all, very happy actually... just don’t understand how anyone can be upset about the country doing well just because of your political affiliation... it’s like getting on an airplane and hoping it crashes because you don’t like the pilot... if Trump wasn’t performing I would get it... but his economy is booming and helping everyone... I just don’t get people rooting against America

 

[barfo]

Not angry at all, very happy actually... just don’t understand how anyone can be upset about the country doing well just because of your political affiliation... it’s like getting on an airplane and hoping it crashes because you don’t like the pilot... if Trump wasn’t performing I would get it... but his economy is booming and helping everyone... I just don’t get people rooting against America

No one is rooting against America. That's a silly thing to say.

barfo

 

[Gronk Brady]

No one is rooting against America. That's a silly thing to say.

barfo

That is exactly what you are doing when you predict doom and gloom in the future instead of accepting the fact of what is actually happening now... people have opportunity to change their lives if they want to... the jobs are there... and you couldn’t say that during the 8 years Obama was in office... even CNN who hates Trump gave him credit yesterday

 

[barfo]

That is exactly what you are doing when you predict doom and gloom in the future instead of accepting the fact of what is actually happening now... people have opportunity to change their lives if they want to... the jobs are there... and you couldn’t say that during the 8 years Obama was in office... even CNN who hates Trump gave him credit yesterday

No, a prediction of doom and gloom is not 'rooting against' anything. There is a difference between "I fear something bad will happen" and "I want something bad to happen".

Here's the way the unemployment rate has changed over the past 10 years. You think Trump has changed the direction significantly?

barfo

 

[CupWizier]

@Gronk Brady and @CupWizier both of you chill it out with the insults

As long as he is allowed to continue to post personal attacks, I will fire back at him any time he does.

 

[Chris Craig]

As long as he is allowed to continue to post personal attacks, I will fire back at him any time he does.

Enough

He is not allowed. You have both been warned

 

[CupWizier]

Enough

He is not allowed. You have both been warned

I call BS on that one as I have seen him all over various threads attacking posters. I call him clueless once after he personally attacked me and I will continue everytime he attacks me. Ban me if you want, but I am not putting up with this guys shit anymore.

 

[Gronk Brady]

I call BS on that one as I have seen him all over various threads attacking posters. I call him clueless once after he personally attacked me and I will continue everytime he attacks me. Ban me if you want, but I am not putting up with this guys shit anymore.

Good riddance... please ban him