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CupWizier said:
I call BS on that one as I have seen him all over various threads attacking posters. I call him clueless once after he personally attacked me and I will continue everytime he attacks me. Ban me if you want, but I am not putting up with this guys shit anymore.
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I have seen it too. They have all been edited or deleted. As have your insults. He is not allowed. No one is allowed to hurl personal insults. I am not putting up with any of it.
 
Gronk Brady said:
Not angry at all, very happy actually... just don’t understand how anyone can be upset about the country doing well just because of your political affiliation... it’s like getting on an airplane and hoping it crashes because you don’t like the pilot... if Trump wasn’t performing I would get it... but his economy is booming and helping everyone... I just don’t get people rooting against America
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And yet you forget the harm Trump has done:

Pretty much insulted every one of our allies
Praises dictators as great people
Has created more separation in this country than anyone else
Has removed regulations that help create clean air
Has removed regulations that help keep our waters clean
Has removed regulations in the work force that were implemented for safety
Has opened up the ability to do off shore drilling for oil along the west coast.
Has opened up the ability to mine in some of our national park areas
Has opened up the ability to clear cut trees
Has separated kids from their families and have locked them up in cages
Has had numerous people indicted from his administration
Has turned over an alarming amount of positions in his administration
Calls the press and democrats as enemies which is creating more separation
Insults people on a daily basis from every day citizens to opposing party members
and the list goes on and on

Yeah, he's just been great for this country.
 
CupWizier said:
And yet you forget the harm Trump has done:

Pretty much insulted every one of our allies
Praises dictators as great people
Has created more separation in this country than anyone else
Has removed regulations that help create clean air
Has removed regulations that help keep our waters clean
Has removed regulations in the work force that were implemented for safety
Has opened up the ability to do off shore drilling for oil along the west coast.
Has opened up the ability to mine in some of our national park areas
Has opened up the ability to clear cut trees
Has separated kids from their families and have locked them up in cages
Has had numerous people indicted from his administration
Has turned over an alarming amount of positions in his administration
Calls the press and democrats as enemies which is creating more separation
Insults people on a daily basis from every day citizens to opposing party members
and the list goes on and on

Yeah, he's just been great for this country.
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Thanks for your list of false liberal fear tactic talking points that a have zero impact on people’s lives... do you work for CNN?
 
Gronk Brady said:
Thanks for your list of false liberal fear tactic talking points that a have zero impact on people’s lives... do you work for CNN?
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False? All of those are true
 
Gronk Brady said:
Thanks for your list of false liberal fear tactic talking points that a have zero impact on people’s lives... do you work for CNN?
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False? Prove they are false then

I am not a liberal

Many of those things impact lives on a daily basis or in the long run. You don't like clean air, clean water, safe working environments or land protected from severe abuse like it was done many years ago?

I don't work.
 
CupWizier said:
False? Prove they are false then

I am not a liberal

Many of those things impact lives on a daily basis or in the long run. You don't like clean air, clean water, safe working environments or land protected from severe abuse like it was done many years ago?

I don't work.
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Look, no one political party will solve all problems... I myself prioritize. I believe in small government, lower taxes, I’m anti abortion, pro gay marriage, anti gun... at this time I believe the most important issue is the economy... if people can’t put food on the table to feed their families then nothing else matters... it must be easy to ignore that when you don’t work. Trump is doing a great job and everyone knows it even tho democrats don’t want to admit it... but my biggest issue with Democrats is the corruption... what I saw during the last election was dispicaple and enabled me to be open minded and realize I was republican... and this stunt the dems pulled with Kavanaugh ensures I will never be a Democrat again... just disgusting behavior
 
Gronk Brady said:
Look, no one political party will solve all problems... I myself prioritize. I believe in small government, lower taxes, I’m anti abortion, pro gay marriage, anti gun... at this time I believe the most important issue is the economy... if people can’t put food on the table to feed their families then nothing else matters... it must be easy to ignore that when you don’t work. Trump is doing a great job and everyone knows it even tho democrats don’t want to admit it... but my biggest issue with Democrats is the corruption... what I saw during the last election was dispicaple and enabled me to be open minded and realize I was republican... and this stunt the dems pulled with Kavanaugh ensures I will never be a Democrat again... just disgusting behavior
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Repiblicans are corrupt too. Both sides play the same games. Both are dirty. If you think switching to republican means you are part of an innocent virtuous party you are wrong.
 
Scott Pruitt? Tom Price? Michael Flynn? Paul Manafort? Rick Gates? Michael Cohen?

barfo
 
Gronk Brady said:
Look, no one political party will solve all problems... I myself prioritize. I believe in small government, lower taxes, I’m anti abortion, pro gay marriage, anti gun... at this time I believe the most important issue is the economy... if people can’t put food on the table to feed their families then nothing else matters... it must be easy to ignore that when you don’t work. Trump is doing a great job and everyone knows it even tho democrats don’t want to admit it... but my biggest issue with Democrats is the corruption... what I saw during the last election was dispicaple and enabled me to be open minded and realize I was republican... and this stunt the dems pulled with Kavanaugh ensures I will never be a Democrat again... just disgusting behavior
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That's a pretty hypocritical view. You think it's despicable what the democrats did, but I didn't hear you mention anything about what the republicans did when they blocked the Garland nomination for about a year and used the excuse that it was close to election time and now this time it was much closer to election time but no big deal. McConnel even stated that it was his goal to make sure Obama didn't get anything passed during his last few years office. You don't find that "despicable"? I call it obstruction of justice and he should have been impeached for that comment. There was plenty of food on my table before trump came along and I don't work cause I am retired. Something you may not be able to do if trump and his administration get there way and start defunding SSI and taking money away from it to balance his trillion dollar deficit tax plan.
 
CupWizier said:
That's a pretty hypocritical view. You think it's despicable what the democrats did, but I didn't hear you mention anything about what the republicans did when they blocked the Garland nomination for about a year and used the excuse that it was close to election time and now this time it was much closer to election time but no big deal. McConnel even stated that it was his goal to make sure Obama didn't get anything passed during his last few years office. You don't find that "despicable"? I call it obstruction of justice and he should have been impeached for that comment. There was plenty of food on my table before trump came along and I don't work cause I am retired. Something you may not be able to do if trump and his administration get there way and start defunding SSI and taking money away from it to balance his trillion dollar deficit tax plan.
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Not voting on a candidate because an election was coming up is a little different than accusing a guy of being a serial rapist... give me a break
 
barfo said:
Scott Pruitt? Tom Price? Michael Flynn? Paul Manafort? Rick Gates? Michael Cohen?

barfo
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There is also a difference between temporary ex associates/employees having personal tax issues vs your Attorney General covering up crimes committed by the Secretary of State, then having the DNC chair give debate questions to their candidate, then Obama delivering 2 billion dollars in unmarked bills in a cargo plane overnight to a terrorist supporting Iran
 
Gronk Brady said:
Not voting on a candidate because an election was coming up is a little different than accusing a guy of being a serial rapist... give me a break
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actually it isn't as blocking a nomination for about a year for NO reason was bad and how do you know the accusations aren't legit? There were so many other factors for not confirming Kavanaugh that the sexual assault allegations played very little into my opinion of him. There has to be much better options.
 
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Gronk Brady said:
There is also a difference between temporary ex associates/employees having personal tax issues vs your Attorney General covering up crimes committed by the Secretary of State, then having the DNC chair give debate questions to their candidate, then Obama delivering 2 billion dollars in unmarked bills in a cargo plane overnight to a terrorist supporting Iran
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I don't think you are being very honest here. Temporary? Cohen worked for him for more than a decade. Pruitt, Flynn, Manafort, and Price were only 'temporary' because their corruption was exposed.

The Iran deal was a multi-national agreement, and completely legal under US law. Your definition of 'corrupt' seems to be 'anything Gronk Brady doesn't like'.

The debate question (singular)? Yeah, that qualifies as corrupt.

AG covering up crimes by the Sec State? That's a conspiracy theory.

Manafort, Flynn, Cohen, Gates? Those are felons.

barfo
 
Gronk Brady said:
Fareed Zakaria is a partisan hack... if you believe what he is saying as fact then there is no need for me to read further... but I did so I will reply

Race relations are worse because of liberal media like CNN... when Democrats can’t win on policy, they result to mudsliging and calling any republican racist with no basis... they know most people are too busy or lazy to research claims... that most people run with a headline as fact. Trump was in the public eye for 70 years and no one ever called him racist... he was seen hanging out with the likes of Don King, Mike Tyson and was being rapped about by every rapper... now he runs for president and he is all of a sudden racist... ok. This is the democratic playbook, identity politics... and since 90% of media is liberal they constantly push their message down your throat and ignorant people will believe it... so I put 100% of blame on media

As for shootings, I’m anti gun, so I won’t argue with you there.

For abortions, I don’t believe in them. Again, it’s media trying to spin this as pro choice... when the real choice is having responsible sex or giving child for adoption... ending the baby’s life should not be a choice
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There is no need for you to read further.
 
Gronk Brady said:
You don’t pay back countries that are funding terrorist... and you don’t deliver money in cash in a cargo plane over night without anyone knowing... some shady shit right there.

Now to the justice department... this is what actually turned me from Democrat to Republican... when Loretta Lynch met with Bill Clinton on the tarmac while Hillary was under investigation... I watched the entire 6 hour congressional hearing of Lynch getting questioned... and I was so disgusted watching her avoid answering questions under oath, obviously hiding something... this was not someone’s opinion... I watched for myself... then soon after Donna Brazille was caught giving debate question to Hillary... the Democratic Party has no ethics and it’s quire frightening
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You deliver $400 Million in cash as secretly as possible, although I can't find where it was done at night. Perhaps you could back up your assertion. The reason for a secret delivery of such a large amount of cash should be obvious. The cash was not done in dollars but rather an assortment of currencies from other nations because Congress outlawed the delivery of dollars to Iran. The date of the delivery coincided with the release of four American hostages.
According to Fact Check the total was closer to $1.7 Billion which was arrived at because of interest accrued over nearly 40 years. I think it was somewhere around 37 years.
If you are prohibited from using banks to transfer the money, how else can you deliver the cash?
A simple Google will tell you all of this.
 
If you really want to look at facts, Kavanough committed perjury during his confirmation hearings. Don't even try to deny it. The guy lied in court. Fuck off with trying to pretend you are on the right side of history. Back ass Republicans are going to bring our country down. Fuck their selfish and bigoted ways.
 
theprunetang said:
If you really want to look at facts, Kavanough committed perjury during his confirmation hearings. Don't even try to deny it. The guy lied in court. Fuck off with trying to pretend you are on the right side of history. You back ass Republicans are going to bring our country down. Fuck your selfish and bigoted ways.
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I think lying in court is a prerequisite for becoming an elected official, political party notwithstanding.
 
https://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2018/10/dow_slides_another_546_points.html

U.S. stocks tumbled a second day, with major averages notching wild swings in heavy volume. Treasuries surged after a strong 30-year auction, the dollar fell with oil, and gold, that traditional safe haven, posted its biggest gain in more than two years.

The S&P 500 Index fell more than 2 percent for a second straight day and is now in its longest slide since 2016. The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped more than 500 points. Tech shares that bore the brunt of the selling Wednesday fared relatively better Thursday, though the Nasdaq 100 Index's losses from an August record reached 8 percent.
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But I thought Trump was supposed to be GOOD for the economy?
 
It's the Fed mucking with interest rates. When interest rates go up some investing shifts to bonds with guaranteed returns rather the stocks.
 
tlongII said:
It's the Fed mucking with interest rates. When interest rates go up some investing shifts to bonds with guaranteed returns rather the stocks.
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I've been saying this for years.

Once they start raising rates to normal levels, shit will start tanking. This goes back all the way to TARP/Bush when they started making investments foolproof by lowering rates to nothing.
 
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theprunetang said:
If you really want to look at facts, Kavanough committed perjury during his confirmation hearings. Don't even try to deny it. The guy lied in court. Fuck off with trying to pretend you are on the right side of history. You back ass Republicans are going to bring our country down. Fuck your selfish and bigoted ways.
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Perhaps your post needs to return to studying mushrooms. It has a shitty outlook.
 
MarAzul said:
Perhaps youryour post needs to return to studying mushrooms. It has a shitty outlook.
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Perhaps you need to stop eating those mushrooms as it has obviously deteriorated your posts "shitty attitude". :bgrin::bgrin::bgrin:
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
I've been saying this for years.

Once they start raising rates to normal levels, shit will start tanking. This goes back all the way to TARP/Bush when they started making investments foolproof by lowering rates to nothing.
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There were a lot of people giving him all the credit when the economy was doing well after he took office.
 
MARIS61 said:
Must have been massive, La Pine High School currently has 550 students.
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Do the students drop out at age 65, or do they keep going in hopes they finally graduate?

barfo
 
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