Don't you love these guys??

[jtballa2o1]

This team is just sooo fun to watch, they come up with new ways to lose every game. up by 7 with less than 90 seconds left(wolves) , up by 4 with less than 90 left (warriors) , blow out by 34(kings), fast break blow out (suns, the game the nets just have that special feeling there gonna get there a$$ rocked), defeated by the team you have own the last 7 years(knicks), How couldn't you love these guys, impressing us every game.

 

[Belarus]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Jan 27 2008, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This team is just sooo fun to watch, they come up with new ways to lose every game. up by 7 with less than 90 seconds left(wolves) , up by 4 with less than 90 left (warriors) , blow out by 34(kings), fast break blow out (suns, the game the nets just have that special feeling there gonna get there a$$ rocked), defeated by the team you have own the last 7 years(knicks), How couldn't you love these guys, impressing us every game.</div>
Absolutely! Nets rock!!

 

[soul driver]

I really, really, really don't want to say this but:
I've seen some of the recent games. how is it that the KNICKS are playing better team basketball and are more enteraining then the Nets? What is this, 1994!?

 

[jtballa2o1]

yea sooo how do u guys think the nets will lose the next game? Im thinking its gonna be one of those game were only 200 people show up to the izod center and the nets maintain a 12 point margin under the bucks and never look like they realized there playing the game.

 

[Belarus]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ Jan 27 2008, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I really, really, really don't want to say this but:
I've seen some of the recent games. how is it that the KNICKS are playing better team basketball and are more enteraining then the Nets? What is this, 1994!?</div>
you guys probably do not understand or refuse to accept the fact that the coach simply has lost his team. team does not respond. that's the main reason. another reason is our best player, our captain also has lost all desire to play for this team and although it's bad, I hardly blame him. Hello, Thorn.

 

[Universe]

We need Starbury back ASAP!

 

[jtballa2o1]

Wait? didnt Rod give this guy an extension in the off season?? thats great, this teams a huge mess.

 

[peterlnj]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus @ Jan 27 2008, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ Jan 27 2008, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I really, really, really don't want to say this but:
I've seen some of the recent games. how is it that the KNICKS are playing better team basketball and are more enteraining then the Nets? What is this, 1994!?</div>
you guys probably do not understand or refuse to accept the fact that the coach simply has lost his team. team does not respond. that's the main reason. another reason is our best player, our captain also has lost all desire to play for this team and although it's bad, I hardly blame him. Hello, Thorn.
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I could not agree more. I am convinced that the only reason LFrank has not been fired is that the extension is still fresh and they would have to pay him out. His job is to provide a system and get them to execute. He sucks at both. It is so obvious that the team has tuned him out. Fire him and I hat to say it, trade JKidd. I wanted to see him finish here but it is just so obvious he wants to be elsewhere.

The team loses money at a big rate and I wonder how long Ratner will put up with it and if they will move to Brooklyn when there is a brand new already built arena in Newark.

Fire Frank and if that does not work, start blowing it up. This team has too much talent to be this bad.

 

[Dumpy]

The team was put together poorly. There is no bench to speak of. Boki has regressed, Wright has not advanced, and Marcus has not developed. The injury to Krstic has had far-reaching effects--with Boone and Sean Williams in the starting lineup, it makes the bench that much worse.

I know it is in vogue to blame Frank, but the fact is that EVERY NBA team is loaded with talent. What has kept the Nets afloat recently has been Kidd's willpower. Now, he doesn't give a shit. In conjunction with Krstic's injury, the failure to develop a bench, and the nagging injuries (so we think) of Carter and RJ, it is no surprise what has happened.

Rod Thorn has yet to show that he is capable of putting together a team.

 

[Lavalamp]

The Nets will probably finish 39-43 and be 6th place in the East and play Orlando.

We beat Orlando once, Orlando beat us once. It could be another upset like we did against Toronto.

 

[killa kadafi191]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jan 27 2008, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Nets will probably finish 39-43 and be 6th place in the East and play Orlando.

We beat Orlando once, Orlando beat us once. It could be another upset like we did against Toronto.</div>


and still lose in the second round. Where is the improvement????

 

[Lavalamp]

Well sometimes injuries happen. That year that Detroit beat the Lakers, Malone had that bad knee injury, and no one expected Detroit to be the champs.

Maybe the Nets could beat Detroit if there was a Chauncy & Rasheed injury.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Jan 27 2008, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We need Starbury back ASAP!</div>
They're really not much better than the Knicks, if any at all.

And this squad will take away Knick fans when they move to Brooklyn.

JK

 

[killa kadafi191]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jan 27 2008, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well sometimes injuries happen. That year that Detroit beat the Lakers, Malone had that bad knee injury, and no one expected Detroit to be the champs.

Maybe the Nets could beat Detroit if there was a Chauncy & Rasheed injury.</div>

Malone being injured wasn't why the Pistons won they out played the Lakers. Simple and Plain. Injuries happen but if your counting on injuries instead of talent it already shows the state of this team

 

[Belarus]

"The locker room seemed to be a mix of players who were down, almost defeated, and others who seemed not to care." - Al Iannazzone after the loss to Wolves.
Clearly, no change is needed. Let's ride it out. ****

 

[Lavalamp]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (killa kadafi191 @ Jan 27 2008, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jan 27 2008, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well sometimes injuries happen. That year that Detroit beat the Lakers, Malone had that bad knee injury, and no one expected Detroit to be the champs.

Maybe the Nets could beat Detroit if there was a Chauncy & Rasheed injury.</div>

Malone being injured wasn't why the Pistons won they out played the Lakers. Simple and Plain. Injuries happen but if your counting on injuries instead of talent it already shows the state of this team


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I think part of it is that Detroit outplayed the Lakers, but Malone being injured definitely hurt, they didn't have much depth behind Malone.

Another example is Miami vs. Detroit, it went to 7 games and Shaq had that deep thigh contusion, and Wade had a strained rib or something, and since they weren't healthy they lost.

Another example is Phoenix vs. San Antonio, when Joe Johnson was injured for most (or was it all) of the series, which clearly affected their ability to compete with San Antonio, because Joe Johnson was playing like 40 mpg, and did for the entire season, and his backup was pretty bad. I think it was Eddie House or something.

My point is that any team can have injuries, and sway the odds of who is going to win.

 

[o.iatlhawksfan]

Wow I really didn't think it could get this bad.

 

[Kids Play]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus @ Jan 27 2008, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ Jan 27 2008, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I really, really, really don't want to say this but:
I've seen some of the recent games. how is it that the KNICKS are playing better team basketball and are more enteraining then the Nets? What is this, 1994!?</div>
you guys probably do not understand or refuse to accept the fact that the coach simply has lost his team. team does not respond. that's the main reason. another reason is our best player, our captain also has lost all desire to play for this team and although it's bad, I hardly blame him. Hello, Thorn.
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I agree, Frank has lost this team. People say that it looks like Vince and Kidd don't care, they have to much pride not to care. What are they supposed to do sit on the bench and cry in public. Just think what they must have felt when they saw our off season pick-ups. Maglore (who Frank won't even put in the game unless all of our other bigs are in foul trouble) Allen (who does have a good jump shot, but he is old and can not defend the younger players, and has anyone else noticed that when he is hitting his shot Frank takes him out for long stretches of time) and Armstrong (who is also old and has had one good game, and that was against his old team so he had something to prove). Then you had Williams who was injured at the start of the season, but Frank had killed his confidence during the playoffs anyway. Then you have Boki who seems like a different player and they should have never expected anything from Wright (and it's not that he can't do it as we have seen, it looks like he is afraid to be good because then everyone will expect it of him all the time) Frank does not have a clue and will never be able to bring this team together

. I think one of the other coaches in the NBA told him that when he looks at his win/loss totals the first number should always be smaller than the second number and he believed it. I don't think we should trade Kidd. They would have to get a pg who has some experience not some new rookie. You can feel and see the difference when Kidd is not in the game.

 

[Jizzy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jan 27 2008, 10:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The team was put together poorly. There is no bench to speak of. Boki has regressed, Wright has not advanced, and Marcus has not developed. The injury to Krstic has had far-reaching effects--with Boone and Sean Williams in the starting lineup, it makes the bench that much worse.

I know it is in vogue to blame Frank, but the fact is that EVERY NBA team is loaded with talent. What has kept the Nets afloat recently has been Kidd's willpower. Now, he doesn't give a shit. In conjunction with Krstic's injury, the failure to develop a bench, and the nagging injuries (so we think) of Carter and RJ, it is no surprise what has happened.

Rod Thorn has yet to show that he is capable of putting together a team.</div>
i literally cried when i read this. good post, dumpy

 

[Dumpy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Jan 28 2008, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jan 27 2008, 10:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The team was put together poorly. There is no bench to speak of. Boki has regressed, Wright has not advanced, and Marcus has not developed. The injury to Krstic has had far-reaching effects--with Boone and Sean Williams in the starting lineup, it makes the bench that much worse.

I know it is in vogue to blame Frank, but the fact is that EVERY NBA team is loaded with talent. What has kept the Nets afloat recently has been Kidd's willpower. Now, he doesn't give a shit. In conjunction with Krstic's injury, the failure to develop a bench, and the nagging injuries (so we think) of Carter and RJ, it is no surprise what has happened.

Rod Thorn has yet to show that he is capable of putting together a team.</div>
i literally cried when i read this. good post, dumpy

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thanks Jizzy--when you think about it, we've been realy spoiled by Kidd's willpower and the Nets' ability to play together as a team the last few years--and Frank deserves at least some of the credit for that. If you look at perenial doormats like Atlanta and Charlotte, on paper they don't have any less talent than the nets do. The bad teams just tend to play selfishly--which shows up on defense--and don't have any depth. Right now, for instance, Charlotte can bring Felton, Okafor, Gerald Wallace, and Jason Richardson--that is definitely more firepower than we have. Why do we think that we're automatically better than a team like that just because we have Jason Kidd (who shoots 35%)?

 

[GMJ]

Well Dumpy I don't know if you can blame the personal disappointments on Thorn. Ok, I didn't like the Wright pick, but are you saying you wouldn't have taken a top 5 draft pick talent at 22 when you needed a pg? And who saw Boki going from hero to zero? He was our best bench player last year, of course we were going to resign him. Nenad's been injured, but that's not on Thorn at all. Now I agree that his veteran FA signings have been poop, but the team was supposed to be a lot better till everyone packed it in.

 

[Dumpy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jan 28 2008, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well Dumpy I don't know if you can blame the personal disappointments on Thorn. Ok, I didn't like the Wright pick, but are you saying you wouldn't have taken a top 5 draft pick talent at 22 when you needed a pg? And who saw Boki going from hero to zero? He was our best bench player last year, of course we were going to resign him. Nenad's been injured, but that's not on Thorn at all. Now I agree that his veteran FA signings have been poop, but the team was supposed to be a lot better till everyone packed it in.</div>

I'm just talking about the free agency signings. but part of it is the decision to sign vets to one-year deals and never try to develop unsigned young free agents. There is no continuity, and they never get someone who could gradually improve. It's half the roster, you know.