Dothan Police Department Planted Drugs on Young Black Men For Years

[dviss1]

quit posting stupid shit. and grow up.

Your post is evidence enough for me to understand what kind of parental skills your post has.

Like I said, don't say shit about my parenting skills or my child. That is across the line. And I am completely serious mother fucker we can meet up at Mount Tabor. You keep my kid out of anything we post.

 

[dviss1]

And you know what, you'd be lucky to have a child like I have. He's an amazing boy. Smart, kind, loving, and more forward-thinking then half of you in here.

 

[dviss1]

Id say most pigs will plant evidence or lie to save their own ass if they fuck up, or beat someone a little too much, or what have you. This is common sense. Self preservation is a powerful motivator.

I don't give any police or anyone with a gun who is readily able to use it any benefit of any doubt. You have a gun so you are a potential killer.

 

[dviss1]

Not to mention, all of the race baiting, and insinuating people are racist are below the belt and designed to get an emotional response. He can take it, he dishes it just as well.

You motherfuckers come in here daily and blame black people as a whole for this and that all fucking day. I can't even call you "white people" as a group or I get called racist... Fuck that shit... None of you know me personally. Those of you who have met me and my child have nothing but kind words to say about us and acknowledgments on how well behaved and smart he is.

So when my son is running for mayor, vote for him because it'll be one of the best things you ever do.

 

[dviss1]

We need to privatize the police so people can pay for the level of protection they want.

Also you'd be able to give a little extra to your private police to arrest the people you don't like.

I don't know about privatization. Whenever there is a profit motive things always go awry. That's what's going on in our for-profit prison model. I normally support unions but in all honestly the police union isn't doing shit to protect the public from their officers who are shooting us in the back. Officer Frashour has his job back after murdering Aaron Campbell cowardly by shooting him in the back while running away. I said it, and I'll say it again: fuck the police.

 

[MarAzul]

Over and over and over groups of police are shown to be racist.

Really! Is this in fact true or is it the police policies that are objectionable? Shooting the guy in Chicago I think is a policy problem. Same in Ferguson, Same with the kid in Cleveland, and the Guy chocked to death in NY.

Perhaps voters need to insist upon change, but "fuck the police" will not change a thing, it will assure more of the same.

 

[MarAzul]

So when my son is running for mayor

So when my son is running for mayor, vote for him because it'll be one of the best things you ever do.

Right on! Will his rally Slogan be, "Fuck the Police"?

 

[MarAzul]

You have a gun so you are a potential killer

That is valuable to remember.

 

[blue32]

Like I said, don't say shit about my parenting skills or my child. That is across the line. And I am completely serious mother fucker we can meet up at Mount Tabor. You keep my kid out of anything we post.

....Really? You really need to seek some anger management skills. Hopefully it stops with you.

Right on! Will his rally Slogan be, "Fuck the Police"?

I really hope that type of attitude and the aggressive "e-thug" stuff is just online show.

 

[blue32]

I don't subscribe to the "fuck the police" stance but more of a "clean up the police" stance. But to act like you don't understand why people, especially black people, would adopt the "fuck the police" viewpoint is blind to reality. Over and over and over groups of police are shown to be racist. And when you have an extreme position of power like police, and abuse that power, people will turn on you and forgo any respect.

Now I personally try and give every individual, police, black, Jewish, woman, Muslim... The benefit of the doubt. I honestly believe most in every group are good and honest. But just as many here jump to the edges and don't immediately trust Muslims, others who see repeated abuses by police don't immediately trust the Police.

Further, I absolutely agree with you. I never said I didn't understand why black people would say that. However, it's not an excuse. No rational person can sit there and say "fuck the police" and expect that to be constructive for anyone or anything. When people are responsible for another persons life and upbringing and you foster an ideal like that, it's just bad news all around.

 

[blue32]

You motherfuckers come in here daily and blame black people as a whole for this and that all fucking day. I can't even call you "white people" as a group or I get called racist... Fuck that shit... None of you know me personally. Those of you who have met me and my child have nothing but kind words to say about us and acknowledgments on how well behaved and smart he is.

So when my son is running for mayor, vote for him because it'll be one of the best things you ever do.

Your posts are the biggest hypocrites when it comes to race. You ask for empathy, yet give none. You ask for people to step in your shoes, yet when they try you just tell them they're opinions don't matter. Furthermore, you sit there and advocate shit like Dave Chappelle and his racist acts, yet condemn whites when they do shit like that.

SlyPokerDog edit

 

[Further]

I don't give any police or anyone with a gun who is readily able to use it any benefit of any doubt. You have a gun so you are a potential killer.

While you are technically right, everyone with a knife, a car or a bottle of draino is also a potential killer. I do agree with you on a lot but i think you see this issue too rigidly. I understand where that comes from, but 100,000,000 Americans own guns and 1) they aren't all possible killers (I'm not) and 2) you can't put the genie back in the bottle. That doesn't mean there aren't some logical steps that can be taken like mandating ALL gn sales have to pass through back ground checks. From the right and the left there are too many people who aren't willing to see, or at least admit, that there are realities in the world that need to be dealt with even if they don't fit into an ideological box.

P.S. I hope I get the honor to vote for you child some day.

 

[Further]

Further, I absolutely agree with you. I never said I didn't understand why black people would say that. However, it's not an excuse. No rational person can sit there and say "fuck the police" and expect that to be constructive for anyone or anything. When people are responsible for another persons life and upbringing and you foster an ideal like that, it's just bad news all around.

The one real problem with the "fuck the Police" stance is that they are needed for our society to work right. A few years ago I went with a friend who was sexually attacked to the police to file a report. The individual officers we dealt with were outstanding, they were bight, helpful, and they acted immediately and arrested the attacker and gathered sufficient evidence to send the guy to jail. We need the good ones. So lets fix the situation so we get more of the good ones instead of just mistrusting all of them. (I also have two stories of bad cops from my past). We should never turn a blind eye to the bad ones, but we also must recognize and appreciate the good ones. And, encourage change so that the system turns out more of the good ones and filters out the racist, sexist, violent, mean, lazy, or uncaring ones.

 

[dviss1]

Your posts are the biggest hypocrites when it comes to race. You ask for empathy, yet give none. You ask for people to step in your shoes, yet when they try you just tell them they're opinions don't matter. Furthermore, you sit there and advocate shit like Dave Chappelle and his racist acts, yet condemn whites when they do shit like that.

SlyPokerDog edit

Show me one post arrive advocated Dave Chappelle as being acceptable and not racist. I specifically said that when he dressed up in a white face that it was racist.

 

[dviss1]

When we say fuck the police we are specifically talking about the ones who are crooked. Just like you simply don't understand what we mean when we say black live matter and you counter it with all lives matter. No, what we are saying is hello, black lives matter too. But we are also saying that we simply don't trust any of them because so many of them treat us like shit and take our children's lives. When we are killed we're told "chill out" or "they're not all bad". And I'm like fuck that. I will only trust the police officer when they are treating me with respect. That doesn't mean I'm going to walk around telling the police fuck them.

 

[MarAzul]

Well Done! The police in San Bernardino deserve to hear it! They did indeed earn their pay yesterday. I am sure more will be required to follow their example soon.

 

[dviss1]

....Really? You really need to seek some anger management skills. Hopefully it stops with you.



I really hope that type of attitude and the aggressive "e-thug" stuff is just online show.

Keep talking about my kid and you'll see...

 

[blue32]

Show me one post arrive advocated Dave Chappelle as being acceptable and not racist. I specifically said that when he dressed up in a white face that it was racist.

Sure you said that, then you said "but it's funny as hell" And when white people do like it you get all butt hurt.

 

[blue32]

Keep talking about my kid and you'll see...

Stop. Now you're just embarrassing yourself.

 

[Further]

When we say fuck the police we are specifically talking about the ones who are crooked. Just like you simply don't understand what we mean when we say black live matter and you counter it with all lives matter. No, what we are saying is hello, black lives matter too. But we are also saying that we simply don't trust any of them because so many of them treat us like shit and take our children's lives. When we are killed we're told "chill out" or "they're not all bad". And I'm like fuck that. I will only trust the police officer when they are treating me with respect. That doesn't mean I'm going to walk around telling the police fuck them.

I get this and I am on board with black lives mattering too, and with having a tough time looking for the good cops through the forest of ass holes you've dealt with.

That being said, and a little bit of a side issue, I just wish that some of the rhetoric were different because it makes an us vs them issue out of something that should bring us all together. I'm not blaming you, or the BLM movement, or the asses on the other side that always have flippant remarks like "what, white lives don't mean shit?" I'm just saying that as long as phrasing continues along the way it is, people who might otherwise join and walk side by side in support are made to feel like they are part of the problem. This extends to just about every issue, I'm just picking on the BLM one at the moment. But I know I would feel uncomfortable marching with BLM because of so much of the things I've heard and signage I've read that would make me worry about my safety. But I am fully in favor of changing the biased system, getting rid of pay for stay jailing, terrible drug laws, racist police, prosecuting officers who betray the public good and shoot innocents. I hope the phrasing changes, the rhetoric subsides, so that we can join up and actually fix this system. Because believe it or not, the right needs the left, and the left needs the right to get any actual substantive changes to take hold.

 

[dviss1]

Sure you said that, then you said "but it's funny as hell" And when white people do like it you get all butt hurt.

Sounds like you're the one getting butt hurt. It was funny as hell. That doesn't stop it from being racist. I love SNL but sometimes they do dumb shit like black jeopardy. While its funny as a hell it's still racist.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I think everyone needs to calm the fuck down. Technology is going to be the end of this shit. If I were a black guy I'd wear a camera that records to the cloud 24/7.

These donkey fucking rednecks can't get away with this shit much longer.

 

[dviss1]

Stop. Now you're just embarrassing yourself.

The people here that have met me and send me with my kid know that I'm not embarrassing myself. Now, bottom line you know what to do. Keep any reference to my family out of your mouth.

 

[dviss1]

I think everyone needs to calm the fuck down. Technology is going to be the end of this shit. If I were a black guy I'd wear a camera that records to the cloud 24/7.

These donkey fucking rednecks can't get away with this shit much longer.

This literally made me LOL.

 

[dviss1]

Sure you said that, then you said "but it's funny as hell" And when white people do like it you get all butt hurt.

Now you're not making sense. I don't get butt hurt when people think Dave Chappelle as funny as hell... What are you talking about?

 

[dviss1]

Because believe it or not, the right needs the left, and the left needs the right to get any actual substantive changes to take hold.

I have always said that we need opposition parties that actually debate the merits of the argument. If that happened we would actually have real progress in this country.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

This literally made me LOL.

Look, I believe it. I can't remember where it was but I read about a state where the Highway Patrol was fighting the local sheriff over who got to sieze more drug money. They let the drugs come in but did 90 percent or some number of the stops on the out of state side of the freeway so they could get the cash.

Cops and the politicians that point them in the bullshit directions they do won't be able to get away with this for long. Watch how many people they harass for trying to record them doing their jobs.

When there is no phone to sieze and the footage is already saved somewhere they can't just delete it they are fucked.

 

[blue32]

The people here that have met me and send me with my kid know that I'm not embarrassing myself. Now, bottom line you know what to do. Keep any reference to my family out of your mouth.

Stop with the shallow threats. I will never be scared of some online dork (pulling my inner HCP). And I know what you look like (from the meets) so yeah, you just chill out.

And the reference to butt-hurt was when you get mad at other people's 'black face' acts, when you sit there and laugh about chapelles racist stuff.

 

[Further]

In Russia nary a car goes by without a dash cam. I too think it's just a matter of time, years not decades before all the youth, (and eventually the adults too) start wearing cameras 24/7. It's just about them getting tiny, light and inconspicuous enough to be totally unobtrusive in ones routine.

 

[dviss1]

Stop with the shallow threats. I will never be scared of some online dork (pulling my inner HCP). And I know what you look like (from the meets) so yeah, you just chill out.

And the reference to butt-hurt was when you get mad at other people's 'black face' acts, when you sit there and laugh about chapelles racist stuff.

So you know what I look ... Ok... My mother taught me there are no rules in fighting. She punch my uncle and his face when she was pregnant with me. I don't fight fair. I punch balls. I gouge eyes. I punch tracheas. There's not a person in this forum that's as quick as me. This is not some internet threat. So again keep my family out of everything you post. And equating Dave Chappelle skit to College white boys having blackface parties is comparing apples to oranges.