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What could maybe work is CJ for Orlando's two first round picks: no. 4 and no. 25. Would you do that? I am leaning towards yes. We could draft Jayson Tatum with 4 (probably, if not then Jackson) and then get Terrance Ferguson with our pick to play at 2. With the remaining picks you can draft three more players. We would go extremely young in that scenario but if 2-3 players reached their potential, it could be a great team.

I am actually cool with acquiring 1-2 more picks. Aminu, Davis or Harkless could get us late first rounders or second rounders. CJ for Tatum COULD make sense if we don't think Dame/CJ is going to work long term.
 
BlazerWookee said:
There's nowhere near enough "Fuck that" in the phrase "Fuck that" to express just how much "Fuck that" your post deserves.
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Sarni said:
What could maybe work is CJ for Orlando's two first round picks: no. 4 and no. 25. Would you do that? I am leaning towards yes. We could draft Jayson Tatum with 4 (probably, if not then Jackson) and then get Terrance Ferguson with our pick to play at 2. With the remaining picks you can draft three more players. We would go extremely young in that scenario but if 2-3 players reached their potential, it could be a great team.

I am actually cool with acquiring 1-2 more picks. Aminu, Davis or Harkless could get us late first rounders or second rounders. CJ for Tatum COULD make sense if we don't think Dame/CJ is going to work long term.
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I'm not quite as excited about that scenario as I don't like trading one great for two good players. My only reason for interest in the Boston deal is that Fulz mixed with Dame would be much better on defense very quickly and would be less of a wholes. If you drafted a SF, then you would have to start Crabbe at SG? The one upside to you deal is you could use one or two of the picks to dump another big salary or too, but that feels more like a full rebuild.
 
Reep said:
I'm not quite as excited about that scenario as I don't like trading one great for two good players. My only reason for interest in the Boston deal is that Fulz mixed with Dame would be much better on defense very quickly and would be less of a wholes. If you drafted a SF, then you would have to start Crabbe at SG? The one upside to you deal is you could use one or two of the picks to dump another big salary or too, but that feels more like a full rebuild.
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That's why I suggested the deal that would net us Butler and Vucevic.
 
Reep said:
Thomas bests both Dame and CJ in DRTG and DWS, which shows how completely pathetic both are on D.
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That's probably because the Celtics are a vastly superior defensive team, so they can hide IT.
 
Natebishop3 said:
That's probably because the Celtics are a vastly superior defensive team, so they can hide IT.
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I thought DRTG rubbed off from your teammates, not the other way around. Doesn't a poor defender on a good defensive team still end up with a good defensive rating? That may be the case here that IT would be last in the league if he were on an average defensive team.
 
Reep said:
I thought DRTG rubbed off from your teammates, not the other way around. Doesn't a poor defender on a good defensive team still end up with a good defensive rating? That may be the case here that IT would be last in the league if he were on an average defensive team.
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That was the point I was trying to make... maybe not very successfully.
 
As predicted for weeks, there was NO WAY the league wasn't going to have Boston and the Lakers 1/2. Any other year, teams move up, the worst team drops a spot or two....but not when it's Boston/LA.
 
This year look for Olshey try to move up to the 10th pick. He will give up the 15th and the 26th and trade either Harkless or Aminu to the kings. We get the 10th and the 20th and the kings 34th. The 10th we select Collins.
 
Trackjack said:
This year look for Olshey try to move up to the 10th pick. He will give up the 15th and the 26th and trade either Harkless or Aminu to the kings. We get the 10th and the 20th and the kings 34th. The 10th we select Collins.
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Please let it be Harkless we trade!
 
BoomChakaLaka said:
CJ and #20 pick to Boston for #1 pick and Olynyk
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Olynyk is a restricted free agent and the Celtics have tons of cap space. If they renounce him to use their entire cap room we could maybe offer him a contract
 
Trackjack said:
This year look for Olshey try to move up to the 10th pick. He will give up the 15th and the 26th and trade either Harkless or Aminu to the kings. We get the 10th and the 20th and the kings 34th. The 10th we select Collins.
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Then Anunoby or Jackson fall to 20 and we get them, and get Jordan Bell at 34. That would be fecking something.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Bell will be gone by our 26th pick
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His stock has been getting higher but that high? Mere two weeks ago he was projected as a second rounder. His draft combine performances must have risen it considerably though. Let's see. I think there are about 20 players who are 100% certain to go above him.

Could he be the new Draymond?
 
Sarni said:
His stock has been getting higher but that high? Mere two weeks ago he was projected as a second rounder. His draft combine performances must have risen it considerably though. Let's see. I think there are about 20 players who are 100% certain to go above him.

Could he be the new Draymond?
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Actual NBA scouts believe so
 
The new Draymond who can't shoot, can't handle nearly as well and weighs quite a bit less with a shorter wingspan. Sounds almost identical...
 
TBpup said:
The new Draymond who can't shoot, can't handle nearly as well and weighs quite a bit less with a shorter wingspan. Sounds almost identical...
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Draymond doesn't shoot that well either. I think Bell can develop this part of his game too. Embiid was not much of a shooter coming out of college, look at him now. Besides, Draymond coming out of college was not the player he is now either, which is why he went in the second round.
 
TBpup said:
The new Draymond who can't shoot, can't handle nearly as well and weighs quite a bit less with a shorter wingspan. Sounds almost identical...
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Waych his ecouting combine tape. His stroke from 3 is great. He makes a high percentage on the video. His handles aren't the same, but other measurables are really close
 
I'm really warming up to Bell. This team needs an infusion of toughness to go with the Nurk effect. Bell looks like he would provide some of that and also seems to have a solid IQ to keep the ball moving to the right location. Could be an excellent fit.

Would those that have seen him more than I have lock him in at PF, or do you think he could man the SF position. Given his basic post skills and potential to hit the 3 (at least from the corners) I could see a lineup of Nurk, Vonleh and Bell being a real nightmare for other teams.

Also could run an interesting small ball unit of any three of Davis, Bell, Harkless and Aminu.
 
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BigGameDamian said:
Please let it be Harkless we trade!
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Why is harkless suddenly getting hated on? Last summer all I kept reading on here was "I don't care who we resign as long as we keep harkless". He's on a good contract too.
 
Reep said:
I'm really warming up to Bell. This team needs an infusion of toughness to go with the Nurk effect. Bell looks like he would provide some of that and also seems to have a solid IQ to keep the ball moving to the right location. Could be an excellent fit.

Would those that have seen him more than I have lock him in at PF, or do you think he could man the SF position. Given his basic post skills and potential to hit the 3 (at least from the corners) I could see a lineup of Nurk, Vonleh and Bell being a real nightmare for other teams.

Also could run an interesting small ball unit of any three of Davis, Bell, Harkless and Aminu.
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The problem with Bell at SF is on offense. He is not an elite outside shooter and he can not dribble in traffic. He will be a good role player in the NBA since he is athletic and is a hustle player. He can guard bigger SF's and most PF's. But the minutes at the 3 should be situational where matchup warrant it.

Bell was a good passer in the post for the Ducks, but not on the perimeter or on the break. He is like many other players now who are undersized PFs. An improved outside shot will help him a lot, but not enough to be a SF on a full time basis IMHO.
 
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