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Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress
Jeremy Lamb: "I've heard that I'm too laid back sometimes. Just got find ways to keep my energy up."http://youtu.be/sXBlSNICXvM

I don't want any part of someone who needs to find a way to keep his energy up

Maybe he's just angling for an endorsement deal with Red Bull
 
Those SAC workout vids could be misleading.

[video=youtube;hQXceZq5shA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQXceZq5shA[/video]

Except everyone knew Jimmer didn't play a lick of D, was going to struggle creating off the dribble for him and his teammates, and wasn't the most athletic player ever...
 
Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress
Jeremy Lamb: "I've heard that I'm too laid back sometimes. Just got find ways to keep my energy up."http://youtu.be/sXBlSNICXvM

I don't want any part of someone who needs to find a way to keep his energy up

Maybe stop getting high before interviews Jeremy.
 
I could certainly see Lillard being the BPA at 6 and also be the right fit for PDX.
Lillard and one of the bigs Sully, Zeller or Leonard.
 
Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress
Jeremy Lamb: "I've heard that I'm too laid back sometimes. Just got find ways to keep my energy up."http://youtu.be/sXBlSNICXvM

I don't want any part of someone who needs to find a way to keep his energy up

:check:, :check: and :check: I'm shocked that more people don't think this/don't know that that's this guy's rep---and seemingly well-deserved.

Edit: and it's not like this guy is someone from nowhere like Weber State. He was on TV every weekend for 2 years! He was in a national championship game!
 
I could certainly see Lillard being the BPA at 6 and also be the right fit for PDX.
Lillard and one of the bigs Sully, Zeller or Leonard.

That's impossible

Not when you could have MKG/Barnes falling to #6. At worst, we'll have Drummond there.
 
That's impossible

Not when you could have MKG/Barnes falling to #6. At worst, we'll have Drummond there.

So you're saying it's not possible that Lillard is a better player than Drummond right now?
 
The guys I'm high on are all better prospects than Lillard.

And I like Lillard! just not at #6 or #11.

You used to be all about Beal... and now you're all about TRob.. there are a limited amount of bandwagons you can be on, man.

FWIW, I'd take Lillard over Barnes. I have them both in tier 2, and frankly, I like Lillard's attitude and aggressiveness much more than I like another spot up/one dribble pull up SF in Barnes. It's not like Lillard can't shoot the hell out of the ball, either. Also, I think some of you underestimate his playmaking ability for others.

One will win rings, the other will (not) win scoring titles...
 
Picking Lillard in the top-6 makes me nervous.

He's not the BPA when we pick IMO.

-Davis
-Robinson
-Beal
-MKG
-Drummond
-Barnes

Drummond or Barnes, both better prospects than Lillard, will be there at #6.

It's hard to get a read on Lillard; he was very efficient but did it against inferior competition.

Looking at his advanced numbers his stats are eerily close to another small-time college gunner: Norris Cole

DL: 34.0 PER | NC: 30.0 PER
DL: 63 TS% | NC: 56 TS%
DL: 33.0 USG% | NC: 32.1 USG%
DL: 7.3 WS | NC: 7.2 WS
DL: 24.5 PPG | NC: 21.7 PPG

I'd opt for Waiters before Lillard and our first pick is high for either IMO.

::BUMP::
 
You used to be all about Beal... and now you're all about TRob.. there are a limited amount of bandwagons you can be on, man.

FWIW, I'd take Lillard over Barnes. I have them both in tier 2, and frankly, I like Lillard's attitude and aggressiveness much more than I like another spot up/one dribble pull up SF in Barnes. It's not like Lillard can't shoot the hell out of the ball, either. Also, I think some of you underestimate his playmaking ability for others.

One will win rings, the other will (not) win scoring titles...

The can't go wrong with the prospects that high in the draft. You can go either way -- Beal or T-Rob or MKG/T-Rob. The line between 'BPA' is faded when you're talking about these prospects. It's all about fit, rook!
 
It's all about fit? Yet a month ago, you said no to Robinson strictly because of fit.
 
Interesting tidbit. If you listened closely to Kaleb speak after the Lillard workout he says he went out with Lillard last night for dinner, then later in the interview says he went out with LaMarcus for dinner. Apparently mr franchise player went out to dinner with PA, Neil, Kaleb and Lillard
 
Hahahahaha

Casey just said he was waiting for Lillard to come out of the closet. That he was in there with Mike Rice
 
Looking at his advanced numbers his stats are eerily close to another small-time college gunner: Norris Cole

DL: 34.0 PER | NC: 30.0 PER
DL: 63 TS% | NC: 56 TS%
DL: 33.0 USG% | NC: 32.1 USG%
DL: 7.3 WS | NC: 7.2 WS
DL: 24.5 PPG | NC: 21.7 PPG

maybe we should look at some other things:

DL: 40.9% from 3 - NC: 34.2% from 3
DL: 51.2% from 2 - NC: 47.3% from 3
DL: 6'1.75" w/o shoes - NC: 6'0.25" w/o shoes
DL: 6'7.75" wingspan - NC: 6'2.25" wingspan
DL: 11'3" max reach - NC: 10'5" max reach

Lillard's advanced stats are better than Cole's (though you want to pretend they're roughly equal). He's a better shooter, and he's also bigger, longer, and more athletic. Cole can barely curl his fingers around the rim--Lillard can get up high enough to finish strong.

You can't really compare the two.
 
Lillard doesn't finish strong, but he can dunk it....

Not a lot of explosion from him IMO, I also question his ability to absorb contact and finish at the rim....
 
I don't think sharing this "inside" info will get me in trouble. Sent a text to my man a couple minutes ago who was at the workout and has seen every workout at the PF for probably the past 15 years.......

HCP: "How was Lillard's workout!!??"

"Inside Man": "Holy Shit.... I am sold!" Best workout I've seen since KD!"

My boy wouldn't exaggerate. This kid might be for real! Take it for what it is, but my man was very impressed.
 
I don't think sharing this "inside" info will get me in trouble. Sent a text to my man a couple minutes ago who was at the workout and has seen every workout at the PF for probably the past 15 years.......

HCP: "How was Lillard's workout!!??"

"Mike Barrett": "I am sold!" Best workout I've seen since KD!" "Other teams are beating down our door for our pick to grab him."

My boy wouldn't exaggerate. This kid might be for real! Take it for what it is, but my man was very impressed.

FTFY
 
FEZ, i just don't agree with you. I have problems issues with many players that I think could limit their ability at the next level. I am not sure exactly where every player fits 1 through 6, but Lillard could certainly be there.

MKG has no range and limited handles. Great physical features, and a kickass mindframe, so I think I would take him above Lillard, but if the coaching staff thought his shot was unfixable, he would slide behind.

Beal - a shooter who didn't shoot that well last year and is a little undersized. I don't think he is much of a better prospect than lillard if at all.

But both of those guys I would likely take above Lillard

Barns - I don't think he will be as good as Lillard in the NBA. It's one thing to not be a good passer or creater but it's another thing to know that's your weakness and still not improve. He can score and has excellent measurements, but his scoring is not very efficient and for all his athletic ability, he does not have a quick first step. He will succeed to a degree at the next level, but I doubt he ever becomes an all star. down the road, I see him as being the third best player on a team.

Drummond - I think I take him above Lillard but without actually being able to be there for the interviews or workouts, I really don't know if Itrust he will ever become half of what he is capable of. Good for us, those making the decision get much more info then we do.



My point is not that one of these guys is great and one sucks, or that Lillard is certainly in the top 6 BPA, just that there are enough questions that need to be answered about many of these players and that without all the access that the team gets, we really cant say if Lillard is in the top 6 or not. And to say
That's impossible
is wrong. It's possible, and by my personal assessment, likely.
 
Thanks HCP. SOunds like they may have a tough decision between Drummond and Lillard. There are worse places to be

Anyone think they will go with the proven scorer over the big center this time? Twice bitten . . .
 
I've been sold on Lillard for a couple weeks now. He hasn't done anything to change that.
 
You guys know I don't claim to have inside sources like some on here. Can't post everything I hear or see, but this is a legit post. He reads this forum, hope I don't get busted.
 
"Inside Man": "Holy Shit.... I am sold!" Best workout I've seen since KD!"

My boy wouldn't exaggerate. This kid might be for real! Take it for what it is, but my man was very impressed.

He better be for real, b\c IMO better players will be chosen after him and if he isn't an all star caliber player then heads should fucking roll....

You just can't keep fucking up drafts like that.....
 
Hell, if the kid has 'it' I'm all on board ... (please tell me it wasn't Buchanan creaming his shorts over him).
 
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