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When I was in school I believe OSU had the 5th winningest basketball program in the country. Oh how far the Beavs have fallen. They are all the way down to 25. Ducks are 37.
 
OSU has the 3rd most wins over a single basketball team (UO) in NCAA history. Facts.

Most of those wins probably came when Mel Counts was rocking out to the Dave Clark 5 after games. But I'll take your word that it's significant. Besides my dad is a huge Beaver alum and worships the ground Ralph Miller walked on.
 
Most of those wins probably came when Mel Counts was rocking out to the Dave Clark 5 after games. But I'll take your word that it's significant. Besides my dad is a huge Beaver alum and worships the ground Ralph Miller walked on.

My point was that even with how lopsided the series has been the last 5-10 years that series is still dominantly owned by the Beavs. UO would have to win every series for the next 13 years just to tie it. So the jokes on here about “OSU has a basketball team?” and all that are either extremely short sighted or just uneducated. Probably both.
 
Wait, there are people actually making the argument that the Beavers are better than the Ducks because the Beavers were once better than the Ducks?!?

Sense perfect.
 
My point was that even with how lopsided the series has been the last 5-10 years that series is still dominantly owned by the Beavs. UO would have to win every series for the next 13 years just to tie it. So the jokes on here about “OSU has a basketball team?” and all that are either extremely short sighted or just uneducated. Probably both.


That's do-able. Tag this post for thirteen years down the line.
 
Wait, there are people actually making the argument that the Beavers are better than the Ducks because the Beavers were once better than the Ducks?!?

Sense perfect.

Your reading that so wrong I’m guessing it’s on purpose. I’m not saying the Beavs are currently better than the ducks in basketball. I’m saying historically speaking, that series is so dominated by the Beavs that making fun of them as a program is to completely ignore history of one of the longest active series in college sports.

It’s civil war week, so now is as good of a time as any to educate this flavor of the week generation of duck fans.
 
Indeed. He most certainly did have a respectable career.

He was Pac-12 POY. He was part of a team that went to the Elite 8. Not his fault he kept being the afterthought in bad trades. And Luke Jackson was even better before injuries derailed his NBA career.
 
Your reading that so wrong I’m guessing it’s on purpose. I’m not saying the Beavs are currently better than the ducks in basketball. I’m saying historically speaking, that series is so dominated by the Beavs that making fun of them as a program is to completely ignore history of one of the longest active series in college sports.

It’s civil war week, so now is as good of a time as any to educate this flavor of the week generation of duck fans.
So let me get this straight. Is it like the Edsel being a better car than the Mustang because it once was?

The Ducks won the first NCAA basketball championship, so they are better than Duke....I like this game
 
I'm just glad both school's basketball teams are on the upward trend. I like that the right team owns the overall record though :D
 
Cool signing by the Ducks. Hopefully the Beavers have a strong season in basketball this season (tho I ain't holding my breath).

On the plus side, right now the Beavers basketball team could probably beat the Beavers football team at football.
 
The Beavs should be pretty good this year. I think they have an outside shot at getting into the tourney. We'll see.
 
I don't know about his personality but he must have been a great salesman. I met a St. John's fan once who told me that Gary Payton was all but set to go NY and sign with Lou Carnesecca. But somehow the trip from Oakland got put off and Miller swooped in to pluck Payton away. Maybe the guy was full of shit but he seemed pretty convincing. Getting a once in a generation player like that to come to Corvallis must have taken quite a bit of legwork.

Miller had a great recruiter in Jimmy Anderson as well who Payton still talks glowingly of. Anderson was a phenomenal recruiter (especially so since he was working with very outdated facilities). Only problem, of course, is he wasn't much of a head coach. If only Lute Olson hadn't stolen away Damon from Wilson - had he come to join Brent Barry, man the Orange Express would've kept on rolling.
 
The fact that two people liked this post is sad. And biased, cuz Ducks.
They always preform well in the tournament, so they're definitely good enough to be in, so don't say it's because of their conference. The past 3 years:

2015: Close loss to Duke in Elite 8
2016: Very close loss in Sweet 16 to Syracuse
2017: Very close loss in National Championship game.
They have 9 straight years with a tournament win.

Don't be ignorant. Gonzaga's conference and lack of recruiting power holds them back. They are the top mid-major program in the country.

First don't call me ignorant. Figure that shit out. 2nd, you just repeated what I said... I know they're the top mid major. I alluded to just that.

"Gonzaga already consistently contends. Due to their WCC ass conference (literally wack) they're always in the tournament.

Save last season, they then get to the tourney and get exposed almost every year."


You maybe only cared about the last sentence where I was half wrong.
 
First don't call me ignorant. Figure that shit out. 2nd, you just repeated what I said... I know they're the top mid major. I alluded to just that.

"Gonzaga already consistently contends. Due to their WCC ass conference (literally wack) they're always in the tournament.

Save last season, they then get to the tourney and get exposed almost every year."


You maybe only cared about the last sentence where I was half wrong.
You were fully wrong in that last sentence, which was an ignorant thing to say based on the facts. You can't even argue that.
 
You were fully wrong in that last sentence, which was an ignorant thing to say based on the facts. You can't even argue that.

Just because you get a tourney win doesn't mean you didn't get exposed. Get over yourself.
 
Just because you get a tourney win doesn't mean you didn't get exposed. Get over yourself.
Lmao. 9 straight years with a win, 3 straight years in the Sweet 16, two of which were Elite 8s and one was a national championship appearance. How do they get exposed...?

That's such a silly opinion, and you know it. You're likely basing it off a couple of times Gonzaga got upset (ex. Wichita State the year when they were the best 9 seed ever).

Guess what, when you make the tournament every year, you'll get upset. Duke, Michigan State, etc...
 
Lmao. 9 straight years with a win, 3 straight years in the Sweet 16, two of which were Elite 8s and one was a national championship appearance. How do they get exposed...?

That's such a silly opinion, and you know it. You're likely basing it off a couple of times Gonzaga got upset (ex. Wichita State the year when they were the best 9 seed ever).

Guess what, when you make the tournament every year, you'll get upset. Duke, Michigan State, etc...

I'm not talking about upsets at all.

During their 9 straight years with a win, who did they beat? That's right. Until the last few years nobody. Then they lose just like every year.
 
So you make the tourney every year because your conference sucks. Then that is shown damn near every year when you get put out.

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And absolutely nothing that I'm stating has anything to do with Oregon. Plus, I like the Ducks but I'm not some fan boy.

I am however, a big fan of Prichard and think he will prove you wrong. Which is the whole reason this argument started in the first place.
 
So you make the tourney every year because your conference sucks. Then that is shown damn near every year when you get put out.

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Based on that graphic, Over the past 18 years, Gonzaga has:
Underperformed their seed 5 times;
Performed exactly as expected per their seed 8 times;
Outperformed their seed 5 times.

Looks like they're a pretty average tourney team.
 
Based on that graphic, Over the past 18 years, Gonzaga has:
Underperformed their seed 5 times;
Performed exactly as expected per their seed 8 times;
Outperformed their seed 5 times.

Looks like they're a pretty average tourney team.

If it weren't for their conference would they ever even make the tourney?
 
I'm not talking about upsets at all.

During their 9 straight years with a win, who did they beat? That's right. Until the last few years nobody. Then they lose just like every year.
Every good team except 1 loses every year. You're still trying to backup the theory that they always "get exposed"?

Based on that graphic, Over the past 18 years, Gonzaga has:
Underperformed their seed 5 times;
Performed exactly as expected per their seed 8 times;
Outperformed their seed 5 times.

Looks like they're a pretty average tourney team.
If their average seed is 8.5.

If it was a 1 seed, they'd either preform to their seed or underperform their seed, which could classify them as a bad tournament team, with your logic.

But that just says to me that's Gonzaga doesn't get an underserved seeding then gets exposed like @dviss1 says. They earn the seed they get.
 

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