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Cranky, what did you say, bitch!?

:) Just kidding.

I know I've said this before, but scout has about what, 2,000 more regular users than this board, and I've been using scout for over 8 years with 10,000+ posts. I think I've had less people complain, bitch, cry and moan about my posting in those years than I have here in the last year and a half - and I've met a lot of the folks at games/events and made some awesome lifelong friends, met players, parents in person -- and such all through the board.. This seems to be an overly sensitive and confrontational group. But, whatever. That's my perception but I am someone that looks at trends. I can't recall one private message in those 8 years like I've received here a couple times of, "you know what really bothers me about your posting....etc, etc, etc.". It's an odd group here who, IMHO, don't want to hear any opposing views or have actual debates - they just want everyone to agree with them. Personally, I enjoy it when people disagree with me, so we can debate the topic and have some good sports banter, I just don't enjoy all the whining and crying and sensitivity.

But, it is what it is. Carry on. All in fun.
 
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Re: Stanford moves to #2 in coaches poll

Targus said:
So, here's the skinny:
Ducks beat the #2 team (Stanford) in the nation and have wins over two other top 25 teams.
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You are sure ahead of yourself with Stanford. Lets see how the game goes first.

Targus: It cracks me up that Autzen stadium is named after an Oregon State Alumni Thomas J. Autzen whose son went there in the late 1930's-40's.
 
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LOL, even the OSU alums can't stand Corvallis. Crazy what $250,000 could do - back in the day. :)

It's a cool name, Autzen.
 
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Targus said:
Cranky, what did you say, bitch!?

:) Just kidding.

I know I've said this before, but scout has about what, 2,000 more regular users than this board, and I've been using scout for over 8 years with 10,000+ posts. I think I've had less people complain, bitch, cry and moan about my posting in those years than I have here in the last year and a half - and I've met a lot of the folks at games/events and made some awesome lifelong friends, met players, parents in person -- and such all through the board.. This seems to be an overly sensitive and confrontational group. But, whatever. That's my perception but I am someone that looks at trends. I can't recall one private message in those 8 years like I've received here a couple times of, "you know what really bothers me about your posting....etc, etc, etc.". It's an odd group here who, IMHO, don't want to hear any opposing views or have actual debates - they just want everyone to agree with them. Personally, I enjoy it when people disagree with me, so we can debate the topic and have some good sports banter, I just don't enjoy all the whining and crying and sensitivity.

But, it is what it is. Carry on. All in fun.
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I think what rubs me the wrong way is the way you debate. I love debates, but I don't like having my face rubbed in it when I'm wrong about something. If I'm wrong, so be it, but you don't have to gloat or constantly keep bringing up something over and over and over again. I'm a casual fan. I love watching the Ducks and I enjoy football, but I'm just not motivated enough to go out and keep up on recruiting or stats or coaching, etc. I think it's great that some fans do because it provides me with insight and information that I would have otherwise not seen. There was a time when I was that guy for basketball, but that's just not my bag anymore.

My question is, if some of us make an observation during a game, such as "the secondary isn't playing great, that concerns me." Why do you take it as a personal affront to the team and keep bringing it up? It's just an observation. If you want to show us stats and explain why we are wrong, great, more power to you, but I don't see the point in keep referencing those posts and rubbing our faces in it. :dunno:
 
Bad Duck, bad. Into the crate.

I'll make an effort to not rub, but if it's an ongoing debate and stats or a new performance help to show some strengths, well, why not bring it up? It's not about rubbing anyone's nose...it's about talking about our perceptions and looking at stuff. Stuff. It's all just stuff.

I do admit when I'm wrong...which is pretty frequent.
 
The game features Stanford's conference leading D which only gives up an average of only 78.9 yards per game on the ground. But considering their schedule and roster gives reason to be very optimistic. Most of their wins have come against teams who haven't shown the ability to run the ball against anyone. Two teams they've played who have demonstrated a rushing attack are UW and USC, and Stanford was gashed for an average of 6.5 yards per rush in those games.

Their D generally doesn't rotate in many players and isn't thought to be very fast. I think it's likely they'll be worn down by Oregon's speed and overall pace in the 2nd half. Stanford controlling the clock with their ground and pound is really important to their chances. But Oregon has done well vs the power running attacks of both LSU and UW giving up just 3.6 & 2.3 yards per rush in those games. Luck is going to have to be on his game for Stanford... should be a great one!

STOMP
 
Stanford recruits attending...

Bam Bradley DB 5.7 6-2/200
Alex Carter DB 5.9 6-0/193
Ifeadi Odenigbo DE 5.9 6-4/210
Andrus Peat OL 6.1 6-7/305
Kodi Whitfield WR 5.8 6-2/197

STOMP
 
Quick, who was Oregon's last conference loss to?

Home field has meant EVERYTHING, baby!
 
http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1291812

Stanford run offense vs. Oregon run defense: The Cardinal have rushed for more than 200 yards in five games this season and have averaged 310.0 rushing yards over the past three games. Stepfan Taylor leads with 891 yards and has gained at least 95 yards in each of the past four games. Stanford also can look to backup TBs Tyler Gaffney (344 yards) and Anthony Wilkerson (253 yards). QB Andrew Luck can be a rushing threat, too. Oregon was vulnerable to the run in some early games, but has tightened up considerably recently. The Ducks are 58th in the nation in run defense, but have allowed no more than 125 rushing yards in the past three games; they've allowed an average of 100.2 rushing yards in that span. Last week, they held Washington TB Chris Polk to 80 yards and snapped his streak of four consecutive 100-yard rushing games. Edge: Stanford

Stanford pass offense vs. Oregon pass defense: WR Chris Owusu (concussion) is out, and so is TE Zach Ertz (knee). But Stanford still has Luck, who has thrown at least three touchdown passes in five of the past six games. Luck is fifth in the nation in passing efficiency. He has thrown 26 touchdown passes and only five interceptions. He still has talented receivers with whom to work. Underappreciated WR Griff Whalen is the team leader with 36 receptions, and TEs Coby Fleener and Levine Toilolo are big and productive. Luck also gets exceptional protection. The Cardinal offensive line has given up a nation's-low four sacks. That sets up an intriguing game within the game. Oregon had six sacks in last week's victory over Washington and lead the Pac-12 with 29. Coordinator Nick Aliotti loves to blitz, and LB Josh Kaddu leads the team with six sacks. But Oregon is also ranked just 71st in pass defense, and four teams have passed for at least 291 yards against the Ducks. Oregon has 10 interceptions, and SS Eddie Pleasant is the leader with three. Edge: Stanford

Oregon run offense vs. Stanford run defense: LaMichael James averages 151.6 yards per game to lead the nation, but more than half of his 1,061 rushing yards this season came in three games, against Missouri State, Arizona and California. He is coming off a 156-yard performance against Washington a week ago. Backups Kenjon Barner (601 yards) and De'Anthony Thomas (349) also are big-play threats. Oregon is fifth in the country in rushing offense and Stanford is tied for third in the nation in rushing defense. But the Cardinal still has to prove itself because six of its previous opponents are among the 20 worst rushing teams in the country. In addition, Stanford allowed 144 rushing yards to Washington's Chris Polk and 145 to USC's Curtis McNeal. Edge: Oregon

Oregon pass offense vs. Stanford pass defense: Although Oregon clearly is a running team, Ducks quarterbacks also have thrown 25 touchdown passes. Starter Darron Thomas has had his ups-and-downs, but he has completed 60.1 percent of his attempts for 1,549 yards and 19 touchdowns. WR Lavasier Tuinei is the leading receiver with 28 catches, but De'Anthony Thomas - who can line up in the slot - is the primary big-play threat; he's averaging 15.3 yards on 25 receptions. TE David Paulson is good one, too. The Ducks have allowed only five sacks. Stanford is ranked 88th in pass defense and has allowed more than 200 passing yards in every game. Each of the past three opponents have had more than 250 passing yards. Stanford's secondary will get a boost from the return of SS Delano Howell, who had been an All-America candidate until he missed the past three games with a hand injury. Stanford has 28 sacks, and LB Chase Thomas leads with six. Edge: Oregon

Oregon special teams vs. Stanford special teams: Both teams have big-play return men. James averages 19.3 yards on punt returns and De'Anthony Thomas averages 26.0 yards on kickoff returns. Meanwhile, Stanford's Drew Terrell averages 13.8 yards on punt returns and Ty Montgomery 29.3 yards on kickoff returns. The Cardinal has an edge in kicking. Jordan Williamson and Eric Whitaker have combined to convert 14-of-15 field-goal attempts, while Oregon's Alejandro Maldonado is just 5-of-9 and with none longer than 40 yards. Oregon P Jackson Rice averages 46.8 yards, and the Ducks lead the nation in net punting. Stanford's David Green averages 41.5 yards per attempt, but Stanford is just 91st in net punting. Edge: Oregon

Stanford coaching staff vs. Oregon coaching staff: First-year coach David Shaw and his staff have enabled Stanford to remain a national championship contender after the exit of Jim Harbaugh. Stanford is one of just three teams to rank among the nation's top 20 in total offense and total defense. Oregon is 31-5 in three seasons under coach Chip Kelly. The Ducks are also 6-1 in November under Kelly. Edge: Oregon

X-FACTOR: Stanford freshman WR Ty Montgomery is expected to make his first career start. He has just seven catches, although one went for 61 yards against USC. He'll start with the speedy Owusu sidelined. Montgomery also has good speed and is capable of making a big play. Should he struggle in his first start, the Cardinal may have difficulty getting the ball downfield.

STANFORD WILL WIN IF: Protecting Luck and having success in the running game is vital, but first and foremost, Stanford must slow Oregon's running attack. Last season, James rushed for 257 yards in a 52-31 Oregon victory, and the Cardinal can't afford to let him run wild again. There has to be containment to prevent him from getting outside and turning the corner. Stanford's defense also must keep De'Anthony Thomas from making big plays in the passing game. Limiting yards after catch is crucial.

OREGON WILL WIN IF: The Ducks need their running game at peak level, which hasn't been the case in the past two games. If Stanford becomes too preoccupied with the run, QB Darron Thomas must pass well enough to take advantage of opportunities. The Ducks' defense must pressure Luck. If he has too much time, he will pick apart a secondary that has been inconsistent this season.

EXPERT PICKS

Olin Buchanan: Stanford 38, Oregon 28
David Fox: Oregon 35, Stanford 28
Mike Huguenin: Oregon 43, Stanford 38
Steve Megargee: Oregon 34, Stanford 31
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You're like royalty. How many times did you say, "Autzen's are AWESOME!" while growing up?
 
STANFORD, Calif. (AP)—Andrew Luck insists his dorm room doesn’t have a calendar. He doesn’t wear a watch, and his outdated cellphone doesn’t even show the day of the week.
Luck needs no reminder about Nov. 12.

Since he announced in a one-sentence news release in January that he would return to school, Luck instantly put Stanford and Oregon on a collision course for that date. Everything for both sides has been building toward the moment.

Finally, it’s here.

Luck leads No. 3 Stanford against lightning-quick LaMichael James and sixth-ranked Oregon in the Pac-12’s showdown of the season Saturday night, shifting attention to the West Coast for a game that could decide the eventual league champion and keep the winner in the national title mix.

“When you’re thinking about the upcoming football season, you’re thinking about Oregon,” Luck said. “If you want to do something on the West Coast, you’ve got to beat Oregon. They’ve been the best team the last couple of years.”

Luck should know.

Stanford is riding the nation’s longest winning streak at 17 games, with the last loss coming at Eugene more than a year ago. Oregon stifled Stanford’s offense in the second half in that contest, rallying from an early 18-point deficit for a 52-31 victory that helped carry the Ducks to the BCS championship game, where they lost to Auburn.

The implications this year loom large again.

Stanford can clinch the North Division crown and the opportunity to host the inaugural league championship game with a victory, while Oregon (8-1, 6-0) also would need to win one of its final two league games. The Cardinal (9-0, 7-0) have a chance to remain undefeated and stay in the top of the chase for a national title behind top-ranked LSU and No. 2 Oklahoma State.

“They love the challenge,” Oregon coach Chip Kelly said of his players. “Andrew Luck is the best quarterback in the country, but I don’t think they ever think they’re in over their heads against anybody.”

The attention is almost unprecedented on The Farm.

The game is the first matchup of Top-10 teams at Stanford Stadium and the first in the Bay Area since No. 3 Washington beat No. 7 California in Berkeley in 1991. About 400 media credentials have been granted—more than twice the usual, with the vast majority for extra television and production crews—and a red-wine sipping, tree-loving Cardinal crowd is expected to swarm the Silicon Valley campus.

The attention on college football is at a fever pitch in the pro-saturated Bay Area market.

Jim Plunkett, who in 1970 became Stanford’s only Heisman Trophy winner, couldn’t even hit golf balls on the San Francisco peninsula this week without buddies at his club asking about his Cardinal’s chances.

“It’s on everybody’s mind, it’s on everybody’s lips,” Plunkett said. “Most people think this is the biggest game Stanford has played in a long time.”
Fans should get quite a show.

The contrasting offenses promise points—unlike top-ranked LSU’s 9-6 victory over previously No. 2 Alabama last week. Stanford averages 48 points and Oregon 46 points per game.
While Luck anchors a prolific passing game, the Cardinal count on a powerful pro-style offense and a bull-dozing line to push opponents around. The Ducks’ spread-option, no-huddle headlined by James and quarterback Darron Thomas relies on speed and misdirection.

“Kind of amped up, but really just focused,” Thomas said. “I’ll be amped up on Saturday.”

Keeping composure could be the biggest challenge for both teams.

The winner in this matchup has scored at least 50 points the last two years with wild, wacky swings in scores normally reserved for video games. Both seemingly blowout contests flipped in a hurry.

Two years ago at Stanford Stadium, the Cardinal jumped out to a 17-point first-half lead and held on for a 51-42 victory. But they blew an early 21-3 cushion last season in Eugene and lost 52-31, the only blemish during an otherwise perfect two years.

First-year Stanford coach David Shaw insists he isn’t worried about nerves and excitement rattling him or his players.

Shaw credits the low-key atmosphere on the grounds of the rigorous academics university for keeping players focused. In a place filled with former and future world diplomats, Internet innovators and other great minds, football is often secondary.

“This campus does a great job of keeping your perspective,” Shaw said. “There are spots on campus where businesses are being created. I talked to a doctor who’s working on campus, and they’re working on the steps toward curing cancer. Stanford vs. Oregon is not high on his list this week.

“Now,” Shaw added, “he’s going to be at the game. But he’s got a lot of stuff to do between now and then.”

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-t25-oregon-stanford
 
Targus said:
....This seems to be an overly sensitive and confrontational group......It's an odd group here who, IMHO, don't want to hear any opposing views or have actual debates - they just want everyone to agree with them.....I just don't enjoy all the whining and crying and sensitivity....
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Stick with me, man...I have strong connections to corporate. You're gonna go far, I just know it! ;)

Hey, I may be known as Atlanta Blazer Man (ABM), but my true nickname is Bulldog (not necessarily for any team, mind you....) That is, when something needs to get accomplished, I have an unbridled tenacity...I sink my teeth in and don't let go until success is imminent. I love the gamesmanship and fight!

I somewhat sense the same "qualities" in you. Probably why I enjoy reading what you have to share in these parts. :cheers:

Oh, and......

Go DUCKS!!!
 
Go Ducks, my new friend! I come across abrasive - and have taken the time concede and apologize a few times here. Also have no problem admitting when I am wrong - which is more often then not. But, yah. A bit headstrong, LOL. Just a bit - but deep down, I'm a nice guy. Would do anything for a friend. :)
 
ABM said:
Stick with me, man...I have strong connections to corporate. You're gonna go far, I just know it! ;)

Hey, I may be known as Atlanta Blazer Man (ABM), but my true nickname is Bulldog (not necessarily for any team, mind you....) That is, when something needs to get accomplished, I have an unbridled tenacity...I sink my teeth in and don't let go until success is imminent. I love the gamesmanship and fight!

I somewhat sense the same "qualities" in you. Probably why I enjoy reading what you have to share in these parts. :cheers:

Oh, and......

Go DUCKS!!!
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Oh, and I'll keep BP in check for you, while I'm at it. He can get a little, shall I say, "testy" at times, But, fer sures, it's all an act. Really, he's like BSU. He's a 'cupcake' at heart. :)
 
Most of us are. Covering up our sensitive side with such manly stuff like college football! LOL.

...like an onion...so they say... GO DUCKS!! go beavs, go horned frogs, go flames!!
 
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