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PtldPlatypus said:
So, an article in which Dwight says that he wasn't demanding the ball in the playoffs 2 years ago is evidence that he currently demands to be force-fed? Yeah, not buying it.
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That's not all, need more time to get stuff, I'm working too u know.
 
I too wonder what exactly Dwight's market looks like right now. How many teams are even in position both financially and positionally to acquire him?
 
@MyMikeCheck: Knicks, Mavericks and Blazers would seem somewhat ideal landing spots for Dwight Howard. But can't see Cuban/Morey working together.

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PtldPlatypus said:
You're talking about 27-year-old, full-of-himself Dwight Howard and 38-year-old, post-broken-leg, basically-ineffectual Steve Nash? Yeah, I'm not sure if that's completely relevant at this point, especially if Howard has been humbled by his experiences in LA and Houston.



I don't know about the "demanding to be force fed" part (seems speculative), but even if he's not the interior defensive presence he once was, he's still more of an interior defensive presence and rim protector than anyone else we currently have. As for his cost, considering the salary floor issue, it would actually cost fewer real dollars to trade for him than not to. If we could obtain him--essentially for a 28-game evaluation period--for Kaman + not much else, there would be very little downside.
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If the price is ridiculously low on Howard, sure- kick the tires and see if it works.

As for the PnR- DeAndre Jordan can't hit a shot to save his life- he's still lethal rolling to the rim. Imagine if bigs couldn't hedge on deep PnRs b/c the threat of Howard is so big. That's the thing that has me interested in him at all- and if he wasn't willing to run it w/the best PnR Point God of all time, then yeah - that makes me question the fit. When you factor that in with all the other stuff- it makes me less and less interested.

The force fed thing is straight from Howard saying he wants more touches. Explicitly. The last few months he's quieted down- but previously he's wanted to be a bigger part of the offense. When you already have Dame and CJ- feeding it inside to a guy demanding touches seems like a deviation they don't want to make, but I could be wrong.
 
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PtldPlatypus said:
You're talking about 27-year-old, full-of-himself Dwight Howard and 38-year-old, post-broken-leg, basically-ineffectual Steve Nash? Yeah, I'm not sure if that's completely relevant at this point, especially if Howard has been humbled by his experiences in LA and Houston.



I don't know about the "demanding to be force fed" part (seems speculative), but even if he's not the interior defensive presence he once was, he's still more of an interior defensive presence and rim protector than anyone else we currently have. As for his cost, considering the salary floor issue, it would actually cost fewer real dollars to trade for him than not to. If we could obtain him--essentially for a 28-game evaluation period--for Kaman + not much else, there would be very little downside.
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I don't think me being forced to root for Dwight Howard to succeed could be considered "very little downside."

Just sayin'.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Got any support for that claim?
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Google: Dwight Howard demands ball, more of a role, bigger role, etc There's a TON of articles out there where he's said as much pretty much since his last year in ORL. I found some from 2012 all the way up to APR of this year.

(I'm not saying it to be a jerk- there's just a ton of examples)
 
Not a huge Dwight fan, but still, many are ignoring some obvious facts:

1) Dwight would immediately become our best shot blocker - by A LOT.
2) Dwight would immediately become our best drive-and-dish finisher - by A LOT.
2) Dwight would immediately become our best rebounder - by A LOT.
4) Dwight would immediately become our team defender.
5) He'd be expensive, but you can't get something for nothing, period.
 
0-Our! said:
But... did they win? Actually, 1 of the big reasons why they lost & any team that takes him will cont. to lose is because of D-Bag12; he may be dominant/strong (get gaudy stats but not as much/often any more; he's starting to decline not only in stats but most importantly in health, which is why the decline in stats & he's 30) BUT he's ALSO weak: he has limited moves (where's all the additional footwork/payoff from working w/ The Dream? Only a few improvements from those sessions), he slows down his team's offense/pace + his free throws? It's simple to beat a D-Bag12 team when HE is the 1 doing most of the scoring/getting the possessions for his team: get more possessions vs them, speed up the pace, put him on the free throw line as much as possible, try to get the ball out of his players hands & when they have it make them take as long as possible before they CAN get it to D-Bag12, try to get a bunch of 3's (only recommended IF ur team can shoot it which we can!:smiley-laughing:) while denying theirs, & then out rebound them (this last 1 isn't necessary for the win but it makes it easier if u can). I admit, I've always been a D-Bag12 hater but it's not because of jealousy or whatever; it's mostly been because of his stupid shit-attitude; I'm not a Kobe lover but... Kobe's been successful & he/Fakers needed D-Bag12 to have the right mentality to win & that never happened bc it can't happen w/ D-Bag12 bc of the way he is & will always b. I could go on & on about this but I don't want to, D-Bag12's a waste. THE only way I would take him is to facilitate a trade, I'd never want him to wear our colors even for a second.
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Please rewrite in 8th grade English. Thanks.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
I wouldn't trade for him because he, apparently, wants $29 mil/season. If we signed him as a FA, he couldn't get that much (I think).
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Ha I like that angle. Lets not trade for him because we can sign him for a cheaper contract. I don't necessarily disagree.
 
blue9 said:
I can't speak to the veracity of the claims, but I do recall that our beloved Jerome Kersey (along with Mark Bryant and...Cliffy?) were caught doing this on a road trip to UTH.
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Actually it was Jerome, Tracy Murray, Dave Johnson and Reggie Smith (Remember him? Yeah, me neither....) in 1993. That was an interesting situation.....
 
Nikolokolus said:
Why would that be a competitive offer? Houston will have multiple suitors/offers
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I actually could see him doing a Lebron and going to his hometown in Atlanta...Houston could get Horford for him
 
riverman said:
I actually could see him doing a Lebron and going to his hometown in Atlanta...Houston could get Horford for him
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The Hawks definitely say no. Horford is superior to Dwight.
 
I'm not even going to take the time to read this entire thread. I'm going to assume that it's twelve pages of nothing but Blazers fans rejecting any cap possible scenario in which this clown comes to town. Right? 12 pages of total agreeing?

Good. Moving on....
 
I think there is more talk on here about Howard then on the rockets forum
 
yuyuza1 said:
Quit bumping old threads. No need to add to the Dwight clutter when there's this thread right here. We get it. You don't want Dwight here.
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I'm not necessarily against bringing him in; just found a few posts in those threads interesting.

It's an odd fascinating situation to have these perennial all stars available for so little.
 
Apparently the Hornets are interested in trading for D12. Ya, like he would really resign there!
 
Howard, when healthy, is essentially a beefier Tyson Chandler. He protects the rim well, rebounds well and his offensive game is largely limited to finishing on pick-and-rolls. Or, if you like, an older and less healthy DeAndre Jordan. He's valuable in that role, but the Blazers already have two big men who have that sort of skillset in Mason Plumlee and Ed Davis. Neither is, obviously, the household name that Howard is, but they're not necessarily much worse and they cost a fraction of what a declining Howard does.

I, personally, wouldn't be at all interested in trading for, or signing, Howard.
 
Minstrel said:
Howard, when healthy, is essentially a beefier Tyson Chandler. He protects the rim well, rebounds well and his offensive game is largely limited to finishing on pick-and-rolls. Or, if you like, an older and less healthy DeAndre Jordan. He's valuable in that role, but the Blazers already have two big men who have that sort of skillset in Mason Plumlee and Ed Davis. Neither is, obviously, the household name that Howard is, but they're not necessarily much worse and they cost a fraction of what a declining Howard does.

I, personally, wouldn't be at all interested in trading for, or signing, Howard.
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Just to play devil's advocate, Howard is light years better at scoring in the paint than Plumlee or Davis. Not sure I'd give one of them up for a one season rental on Howard, but Leonard is likely going to want more money than the Blazers will want to pay him next season. Might make for a fun experiment with little to lose.
 
e_blazer said:
Just to play devil's advocate, Howard is light years better at scoring in the paint than Plumlee or Davis. Not sure I'd give one of them up for a one season rental on Howard, but Leonard is likely going to want more money than the Blazers will want to pay him next season. Might make for a fun experiment with little to lose.
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Howard has really never been a great post scorer; and he's worse as he's declined. His scoring in the paint mostly comes from finishing on the pick-and-roll and put-backs. He has the occasional big game where he has unusually good touch out of the post, which are out of the reach of Davis or Plumlee, but those occasional games aren't really worth the money he'll command over the likes of Plumlee and Davis, IMO.
 
KingAlbertoJrSpeed said:
When Houston gets Howard the ball, he dominates as he has done against us. But Harden doesn't get him the ball.
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Good points.

If we got him, could that lead to a "dump the ball down" like LA type again? Thereby, nullyfing what we've worked on this year?
 
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