Eddy Curry Officially Traded to Knicks

[j0se]

It was "iiight"

 

[mike18946]

The contract is a 6 year, 60 million deal

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">think it will be like the Pistons were last year 2 starting big men that are still relatively young James/Curry (Sheed/Ben), and a quality big man backing them up Antonio Davis (McDyess) with a highly touted draft pick behind them Frye (Darko). I just hope Frye gets some minutes and he shows that he's not as bad as everyone thinks.
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You can't be serious? It will be nothing like the Pistons forward system

Oh BTW Davis will be waived and will return to the Bulls.

 

[Mo.Matik]

no offense guys, but I think most of you are being too negative about this trade. I don't think we have much to gain out of Michael Sweetney. Honestly, the guy can run the court 3 times n thats about it. We don't have much to lose in him, so taking a chance in Curry I think wasn't a bad decision, and like someone said before we got rid of T.T. which made me so happy. I think the Knicks are on there way, just let LB work his magic.

 

[Knicks Analyst]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting chuck d:</div><div class="quote_post">tim thomas,michael sweetney,jermaine somebody?? and first round pick for curry and antonio davis


another knicks trade masterstroke........oops i meant disasterstroke



what is there to analyze??
theirs nothing you can do about it a, your not larry brown??</div>
Oh my lord, your grammar is awful.

Clever joke there, I'm sure you're proud of it.

I can still analyze it, even if I can't do anything about it.

 

[Tribute to H2O]

I really dont know what to say. This deal was at best pretty mediocre. At worst really lousy. It seems Isiah cant do a damned thing right. He traded away Sweetney who quite frankly could have ended up just as good as Curry maybe even better since he's twice the rebounder Curry is, another expiring contract and three draft picks to get a man(Curry) who for all we know could drop dead in the first game of the season and Antonio Davis who will be bought out and back with the Bulls by the beginning of the season. Isiah probably could have thrown in unproven rookies like David Lee or Channing Frye into the deal instead but he let his obsession with removing Layden's players dictate his actions. In one summer we lost the two best rebounders we have for players who can score and do nothing more as well as tacked on even more salary and still havent gotten much better for it. I am extremely disapppointed in Isiah Thomas which is saying something since after the Van Horn deal I never expected anything from him again.

On the brightside Sweetney gets to leave this lousy organization and go to a team that expects to make it back to the post season. Oh well at least we have our draft picks...oh wait we dont.


Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting HASAN33:</div><div class="quote_post">I wouldnt touch Curry with a 10 ft pole. Curry may have a fatal heart problem but he does not want to get a DNA test done in order to find out more about the condition? Maybe I am a little perturbed by the whole matter but I remember the night Reggie Lewis died. It was a not pleasant sight. Even though Curry has been given the go ahead, he has to understand that this a business and the Bulls were trying to protect their investment. He is going to run into this problem with every team's insurance company. The insurance company will not cover him unless he gets that DNA test done. I know because I am an underwriter for a health care provider and we would not touch him with a ten foot pole unless he gets more extensive tests done.</div>
The doctors and medical experts have already cleared Curry to continue playing basketball so I think that’s good enough. Isn’t going Curry’s DNA and family business kind of a personal matter? I do feel it is important for the Bulls to know exactly what is going on, but Curry is cleared to play and I don’t think he should be forced to get a DNA test if he doesn’t want to.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Which brings me to my next point. Isiah Thomas will touch anything that moves along as it sounds good and looks good. His best move to date was getting rid of Tim Thomas today. Can someone say overrated? T. Thomas has been consistant since he has been in the league, consistantly inconsistant. Any team can call Isiah and get payroll taken off their cap because Isiah will take him. So Isiah made one great move in getting rid of TT. Then he makes a bad move in getting Curry.</div>
Yeah, but the Knicks also get Antonio Davis whose contract is expiring next season so it’s not all that bad. It’s not like signing Curry to that much money was like a Jerome James move. Curry is only 22-years-old and would have been a college senior. That’s how young he is. Also, Curry can work with Mark Aguirre and Larry Brown. If he works with them, the Knicks will have themselves a all-star caliber center which are rare these days.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Maybe Curry will turn out to be a beast. I dont think so because he cant rebound worth a damn but he does score.</div>
He’s not as bad as I thought he was. Let’s remember, he does play with Antonio Davis and Tyson Chandler – a 7’1” center who is 3rd in the league in rebounds per 48 minutes. Yes, that’s as much as the leader in rebounds per game, Kevin Garnett. I’ll admit, he should be getting some more rebounds, but 5.4 is somewhat exaggerated.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">So now Isiah has a glut at PF and C. Jerome James, Channing Frye, Curry, David Lee, Bruno Sundov, Jackie Butler, Malik Rose, Antonio Davis and Mo Taylor competing for two positions.</div>
I actually think it’s the opposite. Jerome James, Eddy Curry, and Frye can play center, but let’s remember that Frye at this level is more of a power forward but because he is 6’11” he can give you some minutes at center. In addition, from what James has shown in the past and from what Frye has shown in the summer league, both are very foul prone so having another center isn’t too bad. Also Sundov isn’t getting re-signed or he will join Butler on the IL. Or maybe they might put both of them in their D-League.
At PF, we have Rose/Davis/Taylor. Remember: Lee is probably going to be converted to a small forward; he played that during the summer league. He can also give some minutes at power forward so that makes him even more valuable. Also, Rose can play some small forward, too. This frees up space at the SF where Q or Ariza can start without Thomas complaining.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">OUt of those nine players, how many of the will make a significant impact? Hopefully Curry, Frye and Lee will be the ones that step up because we know what to expect from the others. Nothing. Antonio's best years were back in the mid to late 90s. Davis will be a locker room leader and the Bulls will miss that more than the loss of Curry.</div>
What do you mean? Sundov and Butler I can’t expect much out of and they’ll probably be in the D-League. Everyone else: Rose, Curry, Frye, James, Taylor, Davis and Lee I expect decent production on the floor for them. Also while Davis’ best years are behind him, he still does intangibles such as his strong interior defense and as you said is locker room presence. Since Jerome Williams is gone now, we’ll need another veteran to give us some leadership. Now we have Davis an even more experienced player an a former all-star. He still puts up decent numbers, too. 7/6 isn’t bad at all.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Again Isiah has bought him a good not great player with a lot of baggage. The team still will not finish better than third place behind the Cs, Nets and most likely the Sixers (L Brown will bring you Knicks fans a couple of more wins). Hopefully Curry will develop into the player everyone thought he was going to become after he skipped college. We will not know probaly for a couple of more years. Hopefully Curry will see those years.</div>
Yeah, but the reason why he brought us this good player is because he knows he has the potential to be great (great as in all-star; not Hall of Fame). He also has people such as Brown and Aguirre to mold him into the center he is capable of becoming. I wouldn’t make guarantees about where they end up.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh BTW Davis will be waived and will return to the Bulls.</div>
I heard the same thing, but I also heard the Knicks might reconsider. I wonder when the final announcement will be made.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">I really dont know what to say. This deal was at best pretty mediocre. At worst really lousy. It seems Isiah cant do a damned thing right. He traded away Sweetney who quite frankly could have ended up just as good as Curry maybe even better since he's twice the rebounder Curry is, another expiring contract and three draft picks to get a man(Curry) who for all we know could drop dead in the first game of the season</div>
Sweetney definitely doesn’t have the potential like Curry. Sure, right now Sweetney is on the level of Curry, but in many years to come what will happen? Curry has all the tools to be a dominant center in the league, and nowadays we don’t see those very often. Also, while Curry isn’t on Sweetney’s level in terms of rebounding, this is something he can learn with Larry Brown and Mark Aguirre. Size and athleticism is something you can’t teach and right there, Curry has the advantage.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">and Antonio Davis who will be bought out and back with the Bulls by the beginning of the season.</div>
I hope not. They’re some conflicting reports out there, but if Davis, really is going to be waived, won’t his contract still count against our salary cap like Anderson? If so, than we’ll still benefit from his expiring contract.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Isiah probably could have thrown in unproven rookies like David Lee or Channing Frye into the deal instead but he let his obsession with removing Layden's players dictate his actions.</div>
Why would he have thrown in two rookies he’s never seen play in a real NBA game? It’s not worth it. Both of them can turn out to be decent players and I wouldn’t feel comfortable for them to rob us of our young core.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">In one summer we lost the two best rebounders we have for players who can score and do nothing more as well as tacked on even more salary and still havent gotten much better for it. I am extremely disapppointed in Isiah Thomas which is saying something since after the Van Horn deal I never expected anything from him again.</div>
I agree with you here. I don’t think those two are scorers and nothing else, but you’re right about us losing two of our best rebounders. Isiah, as you know, is a risk taker. Many of these moves have potential to be great, but they have the potential to be awful. If Brown can teach these guys to play the right way, the Knicks will be better than they were last year and that’s what Isiah’s banking on.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">On the brightside Sweetney gets to leave this lousy organization and go to a team that expects to make it back to the post season. Oh well at least we have our draft picks...oh wait we dont.</div>
I’m not sure about this one. I hear we get draft picks, too. We’ll have to wait until the deal finalized first. It doesn’t matter – you don’t trust Isiah at the draft, either.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh BTW Davis will be waived and will return to the Bulls.</div>
I heard the same thing, but I also heard the Knicks might reconsider. I wonder when the final announcement will be made.

 

[bbwSwish]

I don't really understand this trade. The Knicks went out and got two centers this offseason to improve their interior game (Channing Frye and Jerome James). Now they find themselves with too many centers and not enough playing time for all of them to help the team. With Eddy Curry now being the starter, it makes the Knicks look terrible. They spent a lot of money on Jerome James and now he isn't even going to see big minutes. They spent a Top-10 draft pick on Channing Frye and now his role is less important then the water boy's. It just doesn't make any sense for the Knicks to give up picks and more then one player when they were already fine at the center position.

 

[Mr. J]

In June and July, the Knicks had no idea they were going to be able to get Curry. When they saw things turning out badly with Chicago and Curry, they said "Hey, why not?". Anyone with Curry's potential can always be welcomed on a team. Also, James and Frye are hacks so there's no telling how long they'll be on the floor. And Frye, for the most part, will be playing power forward in the league so it's not that bad. What is bad is James is the richest back-up center in NBA history.

 

[Henacy]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Swish15:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't really understand this trade. The Knicks went out and got two centers this offseason to improve their interior game (Channing Frye and Jerome James). Now they find themselves with too many centers and not enough playing time for all of them to help the team. With Eddy Curry now being the starter, it makes the Knicks look terrible. They spent a lot of money on Jerome James and now he isn't even going to see big minutes. They spent a Top-10 draft pick on Channing Frye and now his role is less important then the water boy's. It just doesn't make any sense for the Knicks to give up picks and more then one player when they were already fine at the center position.</div>


I am not for sure Frye will play that much this year, Brown isnt over hyped about rookies in the first place...I think he was orignally going to be apart of the rotation more for need then the fact that Brown was high on playing him this year. So Brown now has the opportunity to be more selective with the frontcourt rotation, if Frye doesnt prove that he is worth the minutes early in the season, his 05-06 role will get smaller and smaller.

As for the trade, I wouldnt be that upset with what you guys gave up...I mean the Spurs pick, probably wont amount to much bebause of how deep they go into the playoffs...and the Knicks already have a decent amount of young prospects in the frontcourt Lee, Frye, Curry as well as the perimeter Robinson, Ariza, so the draft/and geting younger should no longer be the main objective like it was 2 or 3 seasons ago. It is time to start building some results, so draft picks arent as value in that sense anymore. The players the Knicks gave up werent anything special either Sweetney was a nice player...but he still has developement to go before he proves himself a clear cut starter in this league. And KA, hit it right on the head with the size, the 4 spot is only getting bigger, so Sweets lack of it, will be a set back in his overall development....he can still develop into a starter...but if you look at alot of the undersized 4's in this league the Kmart's etc..they are getting buy alot on the type of quickness that Sweets doesnt have...so its a gamble if Mike Sweetney full level of potential will ever be reached.

Tim Thomas, if you are waiving Davis contract, isnt much of a loss..because all TT was at this point was cap space for the Knicks in the future...you can get by with Ariza starting, Penny playing a little 3, even Houston depending on the matchup against opposing teams...

I think the problem comes in of course is the years given to Curry...to invest that amount of years in a guy with a problem that really cant be fixed..and nobody really what is the cause is a risk, I dont think as a gm(if I was one), I would take. Curry can pretty much breakdown at any time without warning and the Knicks are stuck. I think I would have done a 4 year deal with a option on the 4th...so that would be only three years of garanuteed money the Knicks were giving way.

 

[Shapecity]

It's a gutsy trade by Isiah Thomas, but the part I don't like is the Knicks waiving Antonio Davis, so he can re-sign with the Bulls.

I thought the new CBA prevented teams from doing this in the first place?


<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Gary Payton had a quiet summer ... until a rule was named after him.

1. Call this one the Gary Payton Rule: Players who are traded and then waived by their new team cannot sign back with the team that traded them for 30 days (20 days in the offseason). Payton, you'll recall, was dealt from Boston to Atlanta in the Antoine Walker trade-deadline swap in February, only to rejoin the Celtics three days later. Had this rule been in place last season, Payton still would have been eligible for the playoffs after Atlanta released him March 1, but he would have been forced to wait until March 31 to re-sign with Boston.</div>

So Antonio Davis has to wait 20 days, does this mean other teams can negotiate terms with him since he's a free agent? Seems risky for the Bulls to assume Antonio Davis is going to rejoin the team. If he doesn't the Bulls are going to be very thin at C next season.

The Knicks overpaid for Curry, but the Knicks are one of the few teams in the league who, don't mind overpaying for potential. Curry is still only 22 years old, and has areas in his game he can improve on, namely defense. Larry Brown is a great teacher of the game, if a player is receptive to him. I'm not sure Curry is the type of player who can handle Brown's nitpicky personality. A big mistake the Knicks made was signing him long term without any 'outs.' Last year Eddy Curry had his best season, arbuably because it was a contract year. He came into the season in great shape and bought into the team concept. Even before the heart condition problem came up, Paxson was hesitant on signing Curry to max deal.

Tim Thomas is no big loss, and the Amnesty Rule made his expiring contract less valuable for trade. Teams with luxury tax problems were already able to unload contracts and won't have to trade away promising talent just to save money. Trading Thomas also opens the door for some of the younger players to get more playing time.

Jermaine Jackson is a dime a dozen player and Larry Brown has never been a fan of three point shooting.

So the Knicks end up trading Sweetney and the Spurs 1st Round Pick for Curry. Larry Brown likes his frontline tall and long, and Sweetney doesn't fit that description. The Knicks have no need for the Spurs 1st Round pick either.

If the Knicks were to keep Antonio Davis, I like this trade a lot better for them. He could have started alongside Curry, and made up for Curry's mistakes on defense and poor rebounding. The Knicks cannot count on Curry or James to anchor the defense next season.

The Knicks will also have a tough time figuring out the shot distribution. Four players in the starting lineup needs the ball to be effective on offense. Those four also lack any defensive impact on the court. This unit is very uncharacteristic of Larry Brown teams of the past. It's going to be very interesting to see how it all works out for the Knicks this season.

 

[Tribute to H2O]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">Sweetney definitely doesn?t have the potential like Curry. Sure, right now Sweetney is on the level of Curry, but in many years to come what will happen? Curry has all the tools to be a dominant center in the league, and nowadays we don?t see those very often. Also, while Curry isn?t on Sweetney?s level in terms of rebounding, this is something he can learn with Larry Brown and Mark Aguirre. Size and athleticism is something you can?t teach and right there, Curry has the advantage.</div>

Potential? I'm tired of that stupid word being used to justify every stupid move Isiah has made! The Van Horn deal was supposed to be about TT's and Nazr's potential(neither of whom lasted more than a season with the Knicks by the way), Crawford was brought in because he supposedly had All Star potential(one of Isiah's better moves that ended with the Bulls looking extremely smart), Jerome James is the richest back up center in league history because of potential(potential he displayed in one or two playoff games) and now were here talking about Curry's potential? How about talking about what is? Let's do that for a change. Curry isa pitiful rebounder. The excuse about him playing alongside Chandler and Davis doesnt hold water. Curry definetely has the size and athleticism advantage over Sweetney. But Sweetney has the desire and work ethic advantage which is the biggest advantage there is. Anyone who thinks Curry will ever be a dominant center in this league needs to have their heads examined. His name didnt even come up last year when discussing All Star centers for the East. Nazr's name was mentioned more times which isnt good.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">I hope not. They?re some conflicting reports out there, but if Davis, really is going to be waived, won?t his contract still count against our salary cap like Anderson? If so, than we?ll still benefit from his expiring contract.</div>

Yes he's definetely going back to Chicago. There are no conflicting reports. Some reports mention it other reports dont.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">Why would he have thrown in two rookies he?s never seen play in a real NBA game? It?s not worth it. Both of them can turn out to be decent players and I wouldn?t feel comfortable for them to rob us of our young core.</div>

So you think trading a proven player is better than trading an unproven player? Wow. That's some pretty interesting logic. Channing Frye will be a nothing in this league. He wont be much better than Jason Collins if he ever gets that good.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree with you here. I don?t think those two are scorers and nothing else, but you?re right about us losing two of our best rebounders. Isiah, as you know, is a risk taker. Many of these moves have potential to be great, but they have the potential to be awful. If Brown can teach these guys to play the right way, the Knicks will be better than they were last year and that?s what Isiah?s banking on.</div>

Really? What does Richardson and Curry do besides score? They certainly dont play defense or rebound(well Richardson does rebound well for a guard). So what else do they do? It's funny rebounding was a bright spot for the Knicks last year but now it looks like it's going to be a serious problem. And more of this potential stuff...

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">I?m not sure about this one. I hear we get draft picks, too. We?ll have to wait until the deal finalized first. It doesn?t matter ? you don?t trust Isiah at the draft, either.

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Good memory. You're right I dont trust Isiah Thomas with the draft. But I get the feeling if/when this season that is full of hope ends in disaster(again)Isiah will be shown the door and Brown will be running the show and I do trust Brown with the draft.


Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.

 

[Equint77]

I think H20 is actually Michael Jordan.

I would have loved to see how Layden faired up when you compare him to Zeke. Reading H20's posts... I'd swear we were battling Charlotte for losses with no light at the end of the tunnel.

I'm still gonna remain positive and if I'm wrong I'm wrong... but I'm not gonna dismiss what's happened this summer before the team even steps on the court.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">Potential? I'm tired of that stupid word being used to justify every stupid move Isiah has made! The Van Horn deal was supposed to be about TT's and Nazr's potential(neither of whom lasted more than a season with the Knicks by the way),</div>
I don’t know anything about Nazr’s potential. When he came over, he was 27 years old and wasn’t 6’11” 285 pounds with a great post game or drawing Shaquille O’Neal comparisons. If memory serves me correct, in order to get Nazr, they had to trade Van Horn. Isiah wouldn’t have done it straight up.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Crawford was brought in because he supposedly had All Star potential(one of Isiah's better moves that ended with the Bulls looking extremely smart),</div>
Well, he was brought in as a sixth man. Crawford was alright last year, especially towards the end of the season. There’s no way we can judge this move right now.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Jerome James is the richest back up center in league history because of potential(potential he displayed in one or two playoff games)</div>
If Isiah knew Curry would become available, he would have never gotten Jerome James. Who knows, maybe Brown might put Curry and James in at the same time.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">and now were here talking about Curry's potential? How about talking about what is? Let's do that for a change. Curry isa pitiful rebounder. The excuse about him playing alongside Chandler and Davis doesnt hold water.</div>
I said I agree with his size, he should be getting more rebounds, but the fact he is playing with Davis and Chandler does impact how many rebounds he gets a game. Last year when Chandler was injured for 47 games, he averaged 6.2 rebounds in about the same time.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Curry definetely has the size and athleticism advantage over Sweetney. But Sweetney has the desire and work ethic advantage which is the biggest advantage there is.</div>
That is true, but with Aguirre, Brown, Isiah, his best friend, Crawford, he has everyone rooting for him to do well. The media won’t be friendly, so I think that will perhaps motivate Curry.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Anyone who thinks Curry will ever be a dominant center in this league needs to have their heads examined. His name didnt even come up last year when discussing All Star centers for the East. Nazr's name was mentioned more times which isnt good.</div>
Maybe it’s because we didn’t mention Curry. Curry was right behind Big Z for a spot and Mohammed wasn’t even a top 10 vote getter. His name wasn’t mentioned more times.



<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes he's definetely going back to Chicago. There are no conflicting reports. Some reports mention it other reports dont.</div>
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NY Daily News:</div><div class="quote_post">Antonio Davis, but it is unclear if Davis will be added to the roster or released.</div>
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NY Times:</div><div class="quote_post">Other details of the deal remained hazy. The Bulls initially wanted the Knicks to waive Davis so they could re-sign him. But the Knicks may now want to keep Davis.</div>
^Just to name a few.



<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">So you think trading a proven player is better than trading an unproven player? Wow. That's some pretty interesting logic. Channing Frye will be a nothing in this league. He wont be much better than Jason Collins if he ever gets that good.</div>
No, what I said was you don’t know how Lee or Frye will turn out and besides, Sweetney plus Thomas plus Frye or Lee would be way too much. I don’t think Frye will turn out like Collins, but at least Collins is a very sound defensive center and one of the best in the league, actually. I wouldn’t mind having that.


<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Really? What does Richardson and Curry do besides score? They certainly dont play defense or rebound(well Richardson does rebound well for a guard). So what else do they do? It's funny rebounding was a bright spot for the Knicks last year but now it looks like it's going to be a serious problem. And more of this potential stuff...</div>
The Knicks need rebounding at the G/F position. Marbury, Crawford and Thomas were all bad rebounders and averaged around 3 per game. Richardson gets 6. Also in the Richardson deal we got Nate Robinson so there’s more to it than that. Curry can give us a threat and if he gets help from the staff, he can become much more than that.

 

[Chutney]

I hope Curry has still taken a DNA test, regardless of whether or not he disclosed it to the team.

However, I just don't like the way Curry handled this problem. If he knew he had the condition then he's trying to screw the team over. If he doesn't know his own condition then he's being careless about his health. If he knew that he didn't have it then he's being stubborn for no reason at all. I know his agent tried to argue that DNA testing would lead to testing if people are predisposed to alcoholism, obesity, etc., but he's really exaggerating. The Bulls were making sure that Curry wouldn't jeapordize his own health if he hadn't tested himself or screw them over if he had: that alternate 50-year contract shows their intentions were honest.

 

[Mr. J]

According to ESPN, it was approved by the NBA and nothing about draft picks or Davis being waived was mentioned.

 

[Mr. J]

Alright, here is the final deal:
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Chicago Bulls convey to the New York Knicks the contract of Antonio Davis and the signed-and-traded contract of Eddy Curry. In exchange, New York conveys to Chicago the contracts of Tim Thomas and Michael Sweetney, the signed-and-traded contract of Jermaine Jackson, and New York?s regular second round draft choice in 2007 and 2009.

In addition, New York conveys to Chicago, New York?s 2006 regular first round draft choice on condition that the pick does not actually go to Utah (due to not being number 26-30) and also on condition that New York receives San Antonio?s 2006 regular first round selection (due to being number 11-30). If New York?s 2006 first round does go to Utah (due to being number 26-30), and New York does receive San Antonio?s 2006 first round pick (due to being number 11-30), New York conveys to Chicago that San Antonio first round selection.

In addition, New York also conveys to Chicago the right to switch first round draft picks with New York in 2007 provided that New York?s first round selection does not go to Utah (is not number 25-30). Per team policy, terms of the contract were not disclosed. This trade is conditional upon the players passing their physicals.</div>

And...
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">While it maybe done, the Blockbuster trade that brought Eddy Curry to the Knicks has many varying parts being reported involved by the Media. Similar to what Boston did with Gary Payton last year, the Bulls initially wanted the Knicks to waive veteran big-man Antonio Davis so they could re-sign him. But the Knicks may now want to keep Davis.</div>
RealGM
So, we might keep Antonio Davis, too. This makes the trade so much better. I don't like giving up the picks, but we get Davis an inside presence on defense and an expiring contract to go along with Curry. We faired decently. Agree?

 

[Custodianrules2]

Curry is a bit one dimensional, but at least that dimension is a very rare offensive game found in only a few centers. I tend to agree more with what H20 is saying, though. There needs to be some balance, continuity, and players who are born winners rather than question marks considered "potential".

I also thought Zeke gave up too much. The guy can't stand still and he never seems to want to rebuild through the draft very much. Curry for Sweetney and another minor player should have been fair enough because of Curry's heart risk and his history of behing mediocre at everything else. At least the Knicks have some size, but are there any good rebounders on the team (that don't play for contracts)? The team looks like on paper that they are the type who would shoot a lot and what happens when Curry refuses to pass the ball out of the post? Also what is the backup plan if Curry isn't cleared to play because of a heart condition or what if he starts underachieving again? Also I think part of Larry Brown's success with the Pistons was that they focussed on defense, played with heart and really passed the ball. Curry isn't the type that is going to do that. And QRich passing? Are you kidding me? Then there is the matter of who is the power forward. There are four tweeners on the squad and none of them can rebound.. wait I take that back... David Lee is good but can he score from the perimeter? Also Malik Rose is pretty good rebounder but at 6'7 he's not Charles Barkley type impact... But I guess if Channing Frye was drafted before all these guys they could have taken, he should get some burn. I mean why not? #8 pick in the draft has go to play or Isiah would have been better off drafting somebody else instead of for need.

With the way Isiah runs things in NY it's hard to really know what to expect, but it looks like the Knicks could make the playoffs, but I don't think very far. Anyway, I agree with H20 that Isiah Thomas should be fired.

 

[j0se]

Kanye West: Isiah doesn't care about defense.

 

[Moo2K4]

I think this was an overall good trade for both sides. The Bulls may have lost Curry, who was looking to be one of the cornerstones for that franchise, but they got some pretty good players in return. Sweetney gives them some size in the middle, but the only problem with him is he's undersized and plays the same position as Tyson Chandler, so that might end up forcing Chandler to play the center spot if they choose to put him and Sweetney as the starting frontcourt. Tim Thomas is an enigma. He's got talent, but he doesn't always put it to use. He's got good size, at around 6'10", to play either forward spot and he's got good outside range that can stretch the defense. But, the most appealing thing about him this year is that massive contract that will be expiring at the end of the season, giving the Bulls even more cap room. And then Jermaine Jackson is a player I'm not really familiar with, so I really can't give a fair assessment on him. All in all though, this looks like a good trade for each side. I'm just really curious as to how much the Knicks are going to shell out to Curry. If they give him a Tyson Chandler-esque contract, which I'm assuming is what he'll be looking for, then they could be in even more cap hell then they were before this trade.

 

[Mr. J]

I just heard that Curry passed his physical and he's officially a Knick.

 

[Bleed Green]

So that means he took a DNA test?

 

[B.e.]

Interesting. Although some of you are unhappy, with this trade does anyone else realize that Isiah always gets what he wants. He is the GM of the team, and usually when he sets out to get a player he wants he suceeds. A similar situation was last year when Isiah was trying to make a deal for Jamal Crawford. You would hear on and off rumors but in the end Isiah got his player. Now that they have a Coach like Larry Brown, maybe the Knicks can but their team together.

 

[Bleed Green]

LoL, so why doesnt Isiah want some better players. Maybe his determination will get them. Isiah is a smart gm at making trades but he doesnt know how 2 assemble a team. Instead he pays players too much money and has logjams at almost every position.

 

[ROCK4LIFE]

Knick fans baffle me............Isiah has done some questionable things. But lately he's gotten younger, and has actually got some REAL size at the PF/C positions. No more 6'9 Kurt Thomas playing Center (that's Phoenix's problem now). The Knicks are young, athletic, and BIG. You have Marbury leading the way, and you have alot talent around that. Not to mention that Isiah talked Larry Brown into coaching the team, which I never though in a million years he could do. So I would say your in the drivers seat, but it's always somebody who ain't happy. I guess you can't please everybody.

KEEP IN MIND:Whenever you have Larry Brown coaching your team, YOUR ALWAYS IN GOOD SHAPE (atleast until he gets bored)

 

[Shapecity]

Apparently Allan Houston is healthy enough to start this season. Assuming those reports are accurate, Stephon Marbury might be the PG afterall.

PG - Marbury
SG - Houston
SF - QRich
PF - Davis
C - Curry

If those five take the floor for the Knicks, they are going to be a quality team next year. It's a good mix of inside and outside scoring, plus an anchor on defense with Davis. This also allows Jamal Crawford to come off the bench to play either guard position.

A lot of question marks defensively, but this starting five is promising.